# Kittenland!!!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [January 6, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094 "2008-01-06T16:44:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 7

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/121 "2008-04-04T12:26:57Z")

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Well she always wants to have sex with me 😛

…but ammo was great in the beginning .It encourages her wild side as does Turn Up The Heat and [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) for that matter but I think Ammo is smoother and you don’t get the negative aspects of none based products, such as irritation along with arousal.

I find sex is fun and connected with Ammo phoenix and im not against having sex early in the relationship but if you use Ammo and you just get into some heavy petting…you could leave her wanting more 😃

Then next time you meet use something like Turn Up The Heat and some instant honesty 😉

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/122 "2008-04-04T14:25:39Z")

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thanks.. yes cause remember in my previous relationship the girl went crazy after I said no (not never!) to her demands.. well she was more the user type than anything else besides the other problems she had.. and my new gf is much more well-balanced and beautiful too..seems to be the person I was looking for.

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/123 "2008-04-05T01:49:08Z")

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Are we hijacking Kittens journal? 😃

…really happy to hear you have found a girl you really like.😉

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/124 "2008-04-05T06:28:59Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> Are we hijacking Kittens journal? 😃
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> …really happy to hear you have found a girl you really like.😉

@Kitten: sorry!! I actually would like to get your opinion too..

@flaming: yes.. there’s something else still in which I’d like to see if we’re compatible essentially, I think we will be.

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/125 "2008-04-05T09:36:47Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> Are we hijacking Kittens journal? 😃

> [@Phoenix](#):
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> @Kitten: sorry!! I actually would like to get your opinion too..

Yes, yes we are, again…lol…seems to be a frequent occurence in Kittenland!!!..she doesn’t mind, really…

> [@flaming](#):
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> …really happy to hear you have found a girl you really like.😉

Me too. 🙂  
Phoenix use AMMO and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)! It’s so right for you. She already likes you…and I know you don’t over do when you wear pheromones…one little spray of AMMO and Instant Honesty?..what could that hurt? Such a lovely connection with Instant Honesty and a slight smoldering undercurrant of sex/sensuality with AMMO…sounds good to me…now flaming would use Turn Up The Heat…'cause, well…he’s flaming! 🆒

> [@Phoenix](#):
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> @flaming: yes.. there’s something else still in which I’d like to see if we’re compatible essentially, I think we will be.

Compatible?..as good a word as any…lol…😛 whatever you wear, I know, she’s going to find you _irresistable_…😉

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/126 "2008-04-05T09:49:20Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> Yes, yes we are, again…lol…seems to be a frequent occurence in Kittenland!!!..she doesn’t mind, really…
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> Me too. 🙂  
> Phoenix use AMMO and Instant Honesty! It’s so right for you. She already likes you…and I know you don’t over do when you wear pheromones…one little spray of AMMO and Instant Honesty?..what could that hurt? Such a lovely connection with Instant Honesty and a slight smoldering undercurrant of sex/sensuality with AMMO…sounds good to me…now flaming would use Turn Up The Heat…'cause, well…he’s flaming! 🆒  
> Compatible?..as good a word as any…lol…😛 whatever you wear, I know, she’s going to find you _irresistable_…😉

thanks Bella! yes I don’t overdo it. I do kiss a lot and deeply… 😃😃😃  
plus I have my way of doing this to make it creative and unusual every time…

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/127 "2008-04-05T22:54:22Z")

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Aw cool you want my opinion too, Phoenix! Sure, wear your Ammo. You can decide how far you want to take things. The more she wants you and the longer she has to wait, the more combustible it will be when it finally happens. And remember, if a lady gets fresh and tries to take advantage of you, you have every right to say no. 😉

Now what do you do with your kissing that is so creative? Props? A third party? Snorkel gear? I’m totally curious, so tell us!

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/128 "2008-05-04T21:45:42Z")

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Wooty woot! Cracked a grand! Thanks to the mysterious £, whoever you are, for putting me over the top on reps! Squee.😃

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/129 "2008-05-04T21:57:08Z")

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> [@Kitten](#):
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> Wooty woot! Cracked a grand! Thanks to the mysterious £, whoever you are, for putting me over the top on reps! Squee.😃

Congrats Kit! 🙂 Mmmmmm…the same mysterious repper…“pinch poked” me over…?..🙄…ya…thanks! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/130 "2008-05-04T22:07:16Z")

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We so rock, Bella. Yes we do. 😉

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/131 "2008-05-05T09:07:32Z")

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> [@Kitten](#):
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> Wooty woot! Cracked a grand! Thanks to the mysterious £, whoever you are, for putting me over the top on reps! Squee.😃

he repped me too! thanks! 😃

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**Author:** ![nybor24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@nybor24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nybor24)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/132 "2008-05-24T19:53:16Z")

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Kitten, that picture of the “lovers” you have - where is that from?

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**Author:** ![Flirt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@Flirt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flirt)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/133 "2008-05-27T17:06:30Z")

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i Love LP cause they have Tonnes of EST filled products ,

But im wondering how come they manage to put est in but androtics cant?

i know about the patents thing , but i believe that since androtics is a much

larger company , they should be able to do something about it like LP did

=(

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/134 "2008-05-28T04:09:00Z")

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Hey, nybor. 🙂 _air kiss!_ Pretty sure its of Steve McQueen from one of his many (totally great) movies. I’d thought it was from the original Thomas Crowne Affair from 1968, but now that I retink, that (totally _great_!) movie was in color not B&W. Anyone know?

Heya flirt. 🙂 _nother air kiss!_ I know little of the mysterious ways of the pheromone manufacturers. But I’m sure anyplace can obtain EST as a mix ingredient if they want it. Seems to be pretty expensive, however. Maybe there are fewer producers of it than there are for androstenol, which seems to be much cheaper. As ya know, LP is with Stone now. And their EST is stronger and $100+(!) 😮. If they would just dilute the 100 mcg down to 50 and cut the price in half, we could all get a real affordable bargain there.

Kitkit

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/135 "2008-05-28T06:58:42Z")

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> [@Kitten](#):
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> Hey, nybor. 🙂 _air kiss!_ _**Pretty sure its of Steve McQueen from one of his many (totally great) movies. I’d thought it was from the original Thomas Crowne Affair from 1968, but now that I retink, that (totally great!) movie was in color not B&W. Anyone know?**_

Gawd! I love Steve McQeen! He’s so…OOOOOOOOOOO!!..gorgeous in that film. So freakin’ hot that man. Whew.  
I could go on..and, no, I can’t answer your question…lol 😃

> [@Kitten](#):
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> \***As ya know, LP is with Stone now. And their EST is stronger and $100+(!) 😮. If they would just dilute the 100 mcg down to 50 and cut the price in half, we could all get a real affordable bargain there.**

I see you were over at Inks “P74 vs est” thread. So ya know she’s working on an Est subsitute. I’m gonna test it with her…which should be interesting as I’ve never worn Est. 🙄 Don’t really know how to compare it…but what the hay. It’s all good. 🙂

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**Author:** ![nybor24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@nybor24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nybor24)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/136 "2008-05-28T13:38:28Z")

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oh to be the girl being kissed by McQueen in that picture! She must be wearing [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) or EOW…

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/137 "2008-06-05T17:22:57Z")

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Been tinkin. If I had Androtics’ resources to play with, what would I put in my ultimate, all rounder, every day, can’t fail, I’m such a goddess you just can’t stand it mix?

First, it would be unscented so I could use my preferred perfume with it. If that’d mean diffusion would be hindered, so be it. Stronger concentrations to make up for that if necessary. (I cycle thru my scents by season and occasion and need flexibility there.)

How many sprays for one full dose? Maybe two.

Ingredients? 🙄 Let’s fantasize.

A full dose would contain the following:

- 60 mcg beta nol
- 60 mcg TAA
- 50 mcg EST
- 40 mcg alpha nol
- 20 mcg TAL
- 20 mcg TAH
- 20 mcg [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)
- 10 mcg P83
- 10 mcg androstadienol
- 5 mcg rone
- 2 mcg none
- Fairly high copulins, hi enough to be detected but low enough to dry down and cover  
Possibly TAC and or P79 to boost. This is just a first shot at an idea. No idea how well it would actually work. What would you change?

What’s your dream mix? Reps to all responses! 😉

XXXOO Kitten

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/138 "2008-06-06T04:03:37Z")

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Mmmmm. Maybe I should put this in the main section instead? Wonder if I could make it into some sort of poll. Not sure how I would tho…

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/139 "2008-06-06T07:28:20Z")

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I was there and posted, Kit. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/140 "2008-06-10T00:32:36Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> I was there and posted, Kit. 🙂

I saw that! Thanks thanks thanks thanks _thanks_. 🙂 Twas an interesting experiment!

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Between us, may I tell you all a little confession?

I’ve been cheating. Catting around a bit on Androtics, if you will. See I enjoy new things and LP has turned my head just a bit. Unscented “C” and "SS"have been my goto mixes when not at work. 😮

I blame fashion magazines. And Apple. And the internet. I need new. On a pretty regular basis. Part of the skeezy materialism of our age links optimism and hope to new and improving products. So it’s not my fault that my character is flawed. 😉 Okay, that didn’t convince me either.

But in my defense, I am still faithful to MX134 during the day. And I call upon Instant Shine regularly as well. Every now and then I go thru periods where I douse myself in Experimone Est.

I have learned a few things thru this straying. For example, I’ve discovered that I really actually prefer unscented pheromone formulas. They seem to be just as potent in effect. And the fact that I can blast away with as many sprays as I like, means I can megadose without worrying I’ll smell like an airfreshner or a pantiliner.

Unscented pheromone mixes do have a pheromone scent, though. A musty smell like a worn tshirt. I’ve bought _supposedly_ unscented blends that smelled like nothing. So I assume that is an indicator of what was in them…nada.

The exception to my preference for [unscented pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) is copulins. I prefer to just pop on some perfume that has heavy cops already hiding in it. No layering, no drying time, no toxic cloud to explain away.

For my cops, I’ve added additional coppage to my LP “SS” perfume. I had an old togo with some of my undiluted industrial cops in it, and I added them drop by drip over several days–to the point where I can _just barely_ detect them over the perfume. Perfecto.

I still have a beeensy bit of MX135 left, and I’ve reordered it. So yay! Can’t wait for that! I do miss it. Now that I remember it. 🙄 Kind of a weird thing, when I enjoy a mix or perfume so much that I run low on it, I tend to switch to something else for a while in order to conserve what I have left. Then I go and I forget what I liked about the stuff to begin with!

Anyway, thanks for reading! (I do still love you Androtics, darling. Maybe you’re just too good for an unreliable rake like me.🆒 )

XXOO  
Kit kit

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