# Kitten's Curious Combos **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 14, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017 "2007-10-14T15:40:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/21 "2007-10-19T20:12:22Z")
Whoa! Wahapun? It’s a sticky? 😮 Now my head will no longer fit in my hats, it’s so big. And now I gotta really work on these combo descriptions so this thread will be worth people’s time to read it! Omgosh, thanks, whoever did that!!! ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/22 "2007-10-19T20:31:12Z")
Excellent a new sticky! Good job Kitten! ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/23 "2007-10-20T22:28:44Z")
Okay. Let’s talk about how to create a combo. (This post is for those new to the concept of combos, not the phero-experienced ladies who have already posted on this thread. 🙂) Each of my combos starts with at least one spray of a well rounded symphonic, or what I’ll call a “base” product. A base product contains all the major female pheromones: Androstenol, TAH, TAL, and light copulins in varying ratios–along with various putative and [experimental pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/experimental-pheromones/). Androtics’ base mixes are better than those of any other manufacturer I’ve tried or heard about. There are four: Instant Sexiness A\*, Instant Sexiness B, MX134, and MX135. Notice that all the combos I listed in the first post contain at least one of these base products. What makes it a combo, is that you add other products to the base mix in order to tweak your pheromone signature and amplify a specific effect. Say that you are going out with a guy you really like and you want to give him something to dream about 😉. Wear a combo for him! First choose the base product to build your combo upon. Does your guy like strong forceful chicks, or sweet innocent types? Or is he somewhere inbetween? Older, introverted, and dominant guys tend to like a more submissive signature. So your base product would be MX135. Extroverted, high status, and wealthy guys tend to like a more forceful signature and go kookoo over MX134. Younger guys (teens and 20s) tend to be balanced. So you would wear 1 spray each of MX134 or Instant Sexiness A and MX135. _Remember these are total generalizations! Use your intuition._ So you’ve chosen your base product. Now, how do you want your man to feel when he is close to you? - If you want him to think sex, add copulins. - If you want him to feel cozy and start thinking long term, add EST. - If you want him to feel energized – ready to take you out and show you off, add Instant Shine. - If you want him to feel protective, add TAH or another spray of MX135. - If you want him to obey you, add even more TAL or MX134. - If you want him to open up to you, add Instant Honesty. Now maybe you want him to feel all of these things. Well, you could try wearing everything at once. However, I’ve found that the more specific and targeted my efforts, the stronger the results. Have fun! Experiment! Kitten 🙂 - Newbies can purchase Instant Sexiness A quickly and easily. So if you are new to Androtics or to pheromones in general, make absolute sure to get a bottle of Instant Sexiness A. You are limited to the products that start with the word “Instant.” But you can still have fun! Instant Honesty and Instant Shine are great add-on products for your starter combo. Comments, questions, corrections? Please! Let me know so I can make this better. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/24 "2007-10-22T02:27:25Z")
Whoootttt Congrats on the sticky Kitten. Great Job 😃 > [@](#): > > I feel awfully lucky to be able to purchase [MX135](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in the full size bottle. And now I’m even more excited about receiving my 10 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I’m definitely trying it out with [MX135](https://pheromonelabs.com/) first thing. Good find I think I will join you on this experiment and we can compare notes. Fun Fun Fun 😉 I am going to try your other mixes as well but I am running low on mones and was waiting till things got caught up and points were handed out before I order. Looks like things will be moving along again so we can have some testing fun. ---
**Author:** ![Chartreuse\_Ice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chartreuse_ice/32/484_2.png) [@Chartreuse\_Ice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chartreuse_Ice)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/25 "2007-10-27T03:47:58Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > **Target Guy Combo (younger guy)** > 2 sprays MX134 > 2 sprays MX135 > 2 sprays Instant Shine > 1 spray Instant Honesty > medium strip of androstenol roll on > 4 sprays bubble gum cops > > **Target Guy Combo (older guy)** > I spray Instant Sexiness A > 4 sprays MX135 > 1 spray EST 50 mcg > medium strip Androstenol roll on > 2 sprays bubble gum cops Kitten, I have a question: what age range would you place a Younger Guy to be in, as opposed to Older Guy? I have my eye on a guy who is in his early thirties, but I am unsure as to what category to place him into. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/26 "2007-10-31T02:56:28Z")
> [@Chartreuse\_Ice](#): > > Kitten, I have a question: what age range would you place a Younger Guy to be in, as opposed to Older Guy? I have my eye on a guy who is in his early thirties, but I am unsure as to what category to place him into. 😕 Ah. Good question! I guess I meant them to be relative to my own age, which is 30. So early thirties would be Older Guy, officially. The Younger Guy mix is aimed at guys from 18-30. After 30, guys are more prone to settling down and they begin to respond better to the softer, more nesting-oriented [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) like EST.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/27 "2007-10-31T11:43:03Z")
just have to testify for the bubble gum cops. they rock. and so do you, kitten! ---
**Author:** ![Chartreuse\_Ice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chartreuse_ice/32/484_2.png) [@Chartreuse\_Ice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chartreuse_Ice)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/28 "2007-11-01T22:15:11Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > Ah. Good question! I guess I meant them to be relative to my own age, which is 30. So early thirties would be Older Guy, officially. The Younger Guy mix is aimed at guys from 18-30. After 30, guys are more prone to settling down and they begin to respond better to the softer, more nesting-oriented pheromones like EST.😉 Thanks for your reply! This is good information to have on hand. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/29 "2007-11-01T22:44:57Z")
> [@](#): > > just have to testify for the bubble gum cops. they rock. and so do you, kitten! What no details 😛 Ok I dont have a full bottle of Pink suger and I hate to buy one when I have a million perfectly good oil dupes that are dead on. How much stinky cops do you think I should put in a 10ml roll on , Do you think I should dilute them first then add them or just add 1 drop? I am referring to the Industrial ones. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/30 "2007-11-01T22:57:13Z")
Hi Tisha When I’m mixing eow and Pink Sugar my goal is barely noticeable. Earlier in the thread Carrie described it as ‘ladybits’ being detectable. Not sure about the industrial stuff, try one drop at a time and remember to wait a few hours to see what the stank will do. That’s how I added 3 drops of eow to an oil sample vial from Love Potion. Time to pull out your mad scientist cap or mask with that kind of smell. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/31 "2007-11-02T21:39:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Ok I dont have a full bottle of Pink suger and I hate to buy one when I have a million perfectly good oil dupes that are dead on. How much stinky cops do you think I should put in a 10ml roll on , Do you think I should dilute them first then add them or just add 1 drop? Hey Tisha.🙂 Lucky you about all your oil dupes. It’s just that 10 ml is not very much dilution to work with. I’d bet that you’d really really smell that one drop the next day after adding it to your roll on. I’d seriously dilute first–or if you could manage a half a drop? I seem to remember you’ve talked about adding cops to lotions and soaps. I’m having my best results adding it to body lotion–even better than the Pink Sugar. Think maybe that’s because I can spread it over a larger area? I mixed in 2 drops into a full 6 oz of Bath and Body Works Breathe Comfort lotion and I can detect the ladybits in there. Not offensive, but you can pick up on it if you know what to sniff for… Carrie, I’m so happy the Pink Sugar mixture worked for you! Just curious, do you smell a bubble gum smell too? ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/32 "2007-11-02T23:35:20Z")
It’s a little bubble gum-like but honestly, those cops are _still_ growing in there and it’s getting too strong again. Plus hubby has announced he doesn’t like it (Pink Sugar) because it’s “powdery.” back to the drawing board … ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/33 "2007-11-02T23:42:34Z")
Try one of your Love Potion samples instead if you haven’t tried that yet Carrie. A nice strong spicy one should hide eow and I think the oil doesn’t allow for as much blossoming. I’ve done this with #3 and it is just a sweet floral. 3 drops in the vial and barely a hint of lady bits. haha Your hubs nose is as picky as mines stomach. He is such a pain when it comes to meals. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/34 "2007-11-03T02:11:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Your hubs nose is as picky as mines stomach. He is such a pain when it comes to meals. Mine to Jeez what a pain in the a$$ it is trying to figure out what to cook for him. My husband always tells me he cant smell anything when I have hi smell my scent samples. Even if I hold a bottle of pheromones up to his nose he will say. You know I can smell things. Funny thing is he will react to them. > [@](#): > > Hey Tisha.🙂 Lucky you about all your oil dupes. It’s just that 10 ml is not very much dilution to work with. I’d bet that you’d really really smell that one drop the next day after adding it to your roll on. I’d seriously dilute first–or if you could manage a half a drop? I know 10 ML is not alot and its mostly all oils. I am gonna see if I can find a bigger bottle and maybe combine a few of my dupes in there and then add to cops to it. If I cant I will try your suggestion. > [@](#): > > I seem to remember you’ve talked about adding cops to lotions and soaps. I’m having my best results adding it to body lotion–even better than the Pink Sugar. Think maybe that’s because I can spread it over a larger area? I mixed in 2 drops into a full 6 oz of Bath and Body Works Breathe Comfort lotion and I can detect the ladybits in there. Not offensive, but you can pick up on it if you know what to sniff for… Yes I have used EOW in my lotions for a while now. I used to put it right in the lotion but to many of my friends use my stuff. Oh Lord and my mom once used my pink suger lotion before I could stop her. It was a small 2 ounce tub I keep in my purse and I added something like 10 drops of EOW. Smelled great but my Dad got frisky and my mom yelled at him LOL. They are in there 80’s. Later that night she whispers to me “what the hell you put in that lotion” snort Now I just put a big blob of lotion in my palm and add my eow drops and mix it up good and rub it all over. I may make some more in tubs but I will have to hide them LOL. ---
**Author:** ![vkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vkat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vkat)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/35 "2007-11-16T00:26:23Z")
I cover EOW with-well, a lot of things. But one of the best I’ve found (besides the pink sugar oils) is Elementals Amor De Cacao dupe. Awesome. And great lasting power (if you wear something that doesn’t last as long as the EOW it pokes through). ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/36 "2007-11-17T19:28:03Z")
New combo! I created this one intuitively. I was feeling a little grumpy and I wanted to cheer up, so I decided to use some [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) in my combo. I wrote it all down quick so I’d remember. **Heart to Heart Combo** Mystery Boy: 2 sprays P83 5 mcg: 1 spray MX134: 1 spray EST 50 mcg: 1 spray Copulin body lotion all over, as usual Small strip alpha androstenol roll on First, my mood did improve. I felt calmer and a bit cheerier. This may be because I wanted that to happen. But who cares really? I felt pretty good. I noticed that I was very comfortable with silences in conversations, and didn’t fill in with chatter. I was also unusually flirty with everyone, young and old male and female, and others flirted back. I even got a tad bit pushy here and there, but no one seemed to mind. Second, this is the first time ever I’ve seen the starry eyed response from strangers and acquaintances – without wearing MX135. With several people, I’d catch their eye and they’d smile a genuine smile as if they’d been waiting for me. Not a professional or polite smile, a real smile that crinkles the eyes. Last, why I call this the Heart to Heart Combo. Later that day, having added one more spray of P83, I met a guyfriend for coffee. (He’s in his late 20s, and we’ve dated casually for a while now.) And we had the most amazing conversation. I started telling him about all these great things I want to do, where I want my life to go. I was really getting into it. Then I sort of deflated and said I wasn’t sure if I could do it. He looked me deep in the eye and just said, “I believe in you.” We held the look for a while, smiling quietly. Now this might not seem like a big deal to you. But I normally can’t handle this level of intimacy. I always look away or crack a joke. This time, it didn’t even feel weird! It was great to have such positive results from a Mystery Boy combo. 😃 And there is _some_thing about that P83… I don’t get it, but both seem to affect how I use eye contact. Best! Kitten ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/37 "2008-01-17T13:11:07Z")
God help me I am trying to make the bubblegum cops mix with the industrial cops now and I have already gagged twice LOL 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/38 "2008-01-19T18:26:07Z")
Oh my. Heaven help you. LOL. Do go really light since, as you know, like a day or two later the cops “bloom” in the bottle and get stronger. ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/39 "2008-01-24T00:37:18Z")
I have one hell of a headache after yesterday’s [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) extravaganza… ---
**Author:** ![smell\_yummy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@smell\_yummy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smell_yummy)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/40 "2008-05-18T05:35:42Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Yes I have used EOW in my lotions for a while now. I used to put it right in the lotion but to many of my friends use my stuff. Oh Lord and my mom once used my pink suger lotion before I could stop her. It was a small 2 ounce tub I keep in my purse and I added something like 10 drops of EOW. Smelled great but my Dad got frisky and my mom yelled at him LOL. They are in there 80’s. Later that night she whispers to me “what the hell you put in that lotion” snort > > Now I just put a big blob of lotion in my palm and add my eow drops and mix it up good and rub it all over. I may make some more in tubs but I will have to hide them LOL. I tried this after reading this thread and I’m so glad. Lotion really does cover the cops smell. I added eow and quite a bit of lust after me in a 2 oz of coconut body cream. It turned liquidy but still smelled good. Just a dab of it and it’s super moisturizing because of the lust after me oil. I also tried putting eow in a small I think 10 ml atomizer of pink sugar and it actually smelled nice but then it seemed to make the perfume extra strong and my eyes started stinging. I know you guys mentioned that the cops bloom in ps after a while, and I notice that the smell of cops are stronger after a week. But does it also mean that the cops are more potent as well? Thats a good thing right? Wouldn’t it mean that we could use less for the same effect? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017.md?page=3)