# Kitten's Curious Combos

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 14, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017 "2007-10-14T15:40:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![frances](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/frances/32/1249_2.png) [@frances](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frances)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/61 "2008-11-25T17:57:31Z")

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> [@Kitten](#):
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> **Target Guy Combo (younger guy)**  
> 2 sprays MX134  
> 2 sprays MX135  
> 2 sprays Instant Shine  
> 1 spray Instant Honesty  
> medium strip of androstenol roll on  
> 4 sprays bubble gum cops  
> _What it does:_ Attracts guys 18-30. Can attract PUA and player types.

Im a newbie - can someone help me with what the androstenol roll on is and where to find it? Also, isnt that sort of unisex?? Thanks!

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**Author:** ![frances](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/frances/32/1249_2.png) [@frances](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frances)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/62 "2008-11-27T14:59:34Z")

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Bubblegum Cops?

Can the oil EW be used for this?? Im out to Sephora tomorrow to buy some pink sugar, finally! I have the oil based EW. I know lots of people on here say its not a strong as it used to be - Ive only just gotten my first bottle and its really realllllly working in combination w/ my IS, IS/B and MX235! I had about 6 not so subtle hits last night!

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2008, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/63 "2008-12-01T06:17:59Z")

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> [@frances](#):
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> Can the oil EW be used for this?? Im out to Sephora tomorrow to buy some pink sugar, finally! I have the oil based EW. I know lots of people on here say its not a strong as it used to be - Ive only just gotten my first bottle and its really realllllly working in combination w/ my IS, IS/B and MX235! I had about 6 not so subtle hits last night!

Yes, the oil based EOW mixes nicely with Pink Sugar. But expect that blooming. Depending on how much EOW you add to the Pink Sugar, it might take different amount of time to fully flower. The scent of the mix will change over time and mature. A couple of hours will be just fine for Kitten’s mix. If you use more cops, it takes more time to fully bloom, and you won’t know quite what you’ve got until it happens.

I use a one spray to one drop EOW ratio, and with that mix it takes at least 2 days to fully flower.

Diane

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**Author:** ![frances](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/frances/32/1249_2.png) [@frances](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frances)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/64 "2008-12-02T16:09:11Z")

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> [@diane999](#):
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> Yes, the oil based EOW mixes nicely with Pink Sugar. But expect that blooming. Depending on how much EOW you add to the Pink Sugar, it might take different amount of time to fully flower. The scent of the mix will change over time and mature. A couple of hours will be just fine for Kitten’s mix. If you use more cops, it takes more time to fully bloom, and you won’t know quite what you’ve got until it happens.
> 
> I use a one spray to one drop EOW ratio, and with that mix it takes at least 2 days to fully flower.
> 
> Diane

Hi Diane - is that alot?? So using that ratio, how many sprays do you put on?? I just got the roller ball Pink Sugar last night - is it possible to open up?? Oh so much to learn!! Thank you for your reply though!!

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**Author:** ![frances](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/frances/32/1249_2.png) [@frances](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frances)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/65 "2008-12-02T16:09:56Z")

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> [@frances](#):
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> Hi Diane - is that alot?? So using that ratio, how many sprays do you put on?? I just got the roller ball Pink Sugar last night - is it possible to open up?? Oh so much to learn!! Thank you for your reply though!!

Ok one last thing - I WANT it to bloom before I put it on?  
Is it more or less the same as adding them separately?

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/66 "2008-12-03T04:31:43Z")

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> [@frances](#):
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> Hi Diane - is that alot?? So using that ratio, how many sprays do you put on?? I just got the roller ball Pink Sugar last night - is it possible to open up?? Oh so much to learn!! Thank you for your reply though!!

It depends on your age. If you are young you can use less cops. I’m 48 so I use a lot. Maybe one or two sprays for you would be fine. I need about 7-10 drops. So I usually us the EOW neat and then spritz this mix on top.

Diane

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/67 "2008-12-04T17:55:25Z")

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> [@frances](#):
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> Ok one last thing - I WANT it to bloom before I put it on?  
> Is it more or less the same as adding them separately?

I’m not sure. So far I’ve just been using them mixed with a cover. I’m starting to wear them “neat” and sometimes covering with a scent, sometimes not. I think, but I’m not sure, that wearing them without a cover scent, just making sure they dry down really well, seems to work better, at least with my husband. I’m still testing though. Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful… Maybe Bella, or Dolly, or Tisha, or some of the other more experienced ladies might want to weigh in on this one.

Diane

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**Author:** ![frances](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/frances/32/1249_2.png) [@frances](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frances)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/68 "2008-12-07T22:23:53Z")

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> [@diane999](#):
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> I’m not sure. So far I’ve just been using them mixed with a cover. I’m starting to wear them “neat” and sometimes covering with a scent, sometimes not. I think, but I’m not sure, that wearing them without a cover scent, just making sure they dry down really well, seems to work better, at least with my husband. I’m still testing though. Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful… Maybe Bella, or Dolly, or Tisha, or some of the other more experienced ladies might want to weigh in on this one.
> 
> Diane

Thanks Diane! I’m 37 and not sure if Ive found my ‘sweet spot’ with the EOW. Been using 4 heavy drops then mashing my wrists together, and covering with Pink Sugar ten min later. I just copied down your new mix today and am going to buy my missing ingredients!! Im excited to try~

Is the EST from here the same est (purse estrade…cant remember!) that you can buy at love-scent? or is it s different molecule?

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 11:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/69 "2008-12-08T11:06:48Z")

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> [@frances](#):
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> Thanks Diane! I’m 37 and not sure if Ive found my ‘sweet spot’ with the EOW. Been using 4 heavy drops then mashing my wrists together, and covering with Pink Sugar ten min later. I just copied down your new mix today and am going to buy my missing ingredients!! Im excited to try~
> 
> Is the EST from here the same est (purse estrade…cant remember!) that you can buy at love-scent? or is it s different molecule?

Cool! Let me know how the mix works for you. I’m trying the mix without the cops and lower est/meo-est dosages. I think with this mix not having cops really doesn’t matter, but the lower est/meo-est… I don’t like so much.

Yes, the est is Estratetraenol from LS. It comes in 10 mg/10mL. If you transfer that to an Androtics 30 mL bottle and add 20 mL perfumer’s alcohol, it gives you 50 mcg/spray dose. Straight, without dilution it is 150 mcg/spray in an androtics 5mL to go bottle or in their larger bottles.

If you’ve been following the perfect sex mix thread, you can see that I’m going to be tweaking it a bit with a few more putatives and slightly different formula suggested by Warren. I’ll post any new results to that thread.

Diane

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/70 "2008-12-09T01:32:12Z")

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> [@diane999](#):
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> Cool! Let me know how the mix works for you. I’m trying the mix without the cops and lower est/meo-est dosages. I think with this mix not having cops really doesn’t matter, but the lower est/meo-est… I don’t like so much.
> 
> Yes, the est is Estratetraenol from LS. It comes in 10 mg/10mL. If you transfer that to an Androtics 30 mL bottle and add 20 mL perfumer’s alcohol, it gives you 50 mcg/spray dose. Straight, without dilution it is 150 mcg/spray in an androtics 5mL to go bottle or in their larger bottles.
> 
> If you’ve been following the perfect sex mix thread, you can see that I’m going to be tweaking it a bit with a few more putatives and slightly different formula suggested by Warren. I’ll post any new results to that thread.Diane

I totally will! Ill probably get to order late tonight and have things tried out by the weekend! Though my target is S\_H\_Y and wont initiate…though he’s told me its not because he doesnt want to, he just thinks its wrong due to our circumstances. Think this will help??? I know for a fact that cops and rum and coke do!! lol Ill let you know in either case! Thanks so much for posting it, youre awesome!

Have a great night!

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/71 "2008-12-09T15:13:30Z")

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> [@frances](#):
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> I totally will! Ill probably get to order late tonight and have things tried out by the weekend! Though my target is S\_H\_Y and wont initiate…though he’s told me its not because he doesnt want to, he just thinks its wrong due to our circumstances. Think this will help??? I know for a fact that cops and rum and coke do!! lol Ill let you know in either case! Thanks so much for posting it, youre awesome!
> 
> Have a great night!

It is very difficult if not impossible to overcome a sense of ‘wrongness’ with pheromones. It is much easier to turn up the thermostat of what is already there.

So, maybe some deeper conversations to suss out the why of that is in order? Just a thought.

Diane

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/72 "2008-12-09T18:13:00Z")

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> [@diane999](#):
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> It is very difficult if not impossible to overcome a sense of ‘wrongness’ with pheromones. It is much easier to turn up the thermostat of what is already there.
> 
> So, maybe some deeper conversations to suss out the why of that is in order? Just a thought.
> 
> Diane

Oh that. It would be because Im married. Not good, I know. On the verge of separating though its a mess right now as Im really good friends with my husband so things are difficult. Im going to keep trying, wait and keep trying some more 🙂 Off to order!

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/73 "2009-01-30T21:32:15Z")

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Im waay late on this thread but I have a question about the bubblegum cops

I have an 100 ml bottle of Pink Sugar, and some EOW. However, I’ve been hearing alot about the EOW not working as strong anymore ( people use almost 6-8 drops now) and having a vinegary smell. Is this formula using the latest EOW or the old strong EOW ?

If its the latest one, what would you say the ratio is now ?

Thanks a bunch !

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**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/74 "2009-01-30T21:54:53Z")

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> [@CookieGirl](#):
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> Im waay late on this thread but I have a question about the bubblegum cops
> 
> I have an 100 ml bottle of Pink Sugar, and some EOW. However, I’ve been hearing alot about the EOW not working as strong anymore ( people use almost 6-8 drops now) and having a vinegary smell. Is this formula using the latest EOW or the old strong EOW ?
> 
> If its the latest one, what would you say the ratio is now ?
> 
> Thanks a bunch !

I haven’t used the new EOW… still hoping Androtics will unveil their own cops soon. This was from an older batch.

With the new batch not working I can’t see adding it to anything will make it better.

Diane

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/75 "2009-02-05T04:38:51Z")

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> [@diane999](#):
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> I haven’t used the new EOW… still hoping Androtics will unveil their own cops soon. This was from an older batch.
> 
> With the new batch not working I can’t see adding it to anything will make it better.
> 
> Diane

Hi girls! Any word on the new Cops???

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/76 "2009-06-09T14:56:25Z")

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> [@Kitten](#):
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> Hi All,  
> Thought I’d share some of my favorite pheromone combinations for you to try out too. 🙂
> 
> **Daily Work Combo**  
> 2 sprays MX134  
> 1 spray Instant Honesty  
> _What it does:_ Makes you seem extremely competent yet approachable.
> 
> **Meeting Combo**  
> 1 spray Instant Sexiness A  
> 1 spray MX134  
> 2 10mcg sprays P74  
> 1 spray Instant Shine  
> _What it does:_ Brings together a group, with you as the leader.
> 
> **Presentation Combo**  
> 3 sprays MX134  
> 6 sprays Instant Shine 2X  
> 1/2 Scent of Eros Gel pack  
> _What it does:_ Puts all eyes on you and gives you the gift of gab. (strong scent)
> 
> **Work Combo plus meeting Target Guy**  
> 2 sprays MX134  
> 1 spray MX135  
> 2 sprays bubblegum copulins (equivalent is a small to moderate amount of EoW)  
> 1 spray Instant Honesty  
> _What it does:_ Takes you from work to play. Not for use when seriousness is important at work.
> 
> **Interview Combo (with male)**  
> 2 sprays MX134  
> 4 sprays Instant Shine 2x  
> 1 spray EST 50 mcg  
> 2 sprays P74 10 mcg  
> _What it does:_ Covers all the bases male interviewers are looking for. You’re together, warm, and smart.
> 
> **Interview Combo (with female)**  
> 2 sprays MX134  
> 2 sprays Instant Shine 2x  
> 2 sprays Instant Honesty  
> 2 sprays P74 10 mcg  
> _What it does:_ Covers all the bases female interviewers are looking for. You’re together, trustworthy, and a team player.
> 
> **Friends and Family Combo**  
> 1 spray Instant Sexiness A  
> long strip of alpha androstenol roll on (equivalent to approx 1 or 2 sprays Instant Openness)  
> 1 spray P74 10 mcg  
> 1 spray Instant Honesty  
> _What it does:_ Lightens and brightens things up and gets everyone playing nicely together.
> 
> **Target Guy Combo (younger guy)**  
> 2 sprays MX134  
> 2 sprays MX135  
> 2 sprays Instant Shine  
> 1 spray Instant Honesty  
> medium strip of androstenol roll on  
> 4 sprays bubble gum cops  
> _What it does:_ Attracts guys 18-30. Can attract PUA and player types.
> 
> **Light Target Guy Combo (younger guy)**  
> 1 spray Instant Sexiness A  
> 2 sprays bubble gum cops  
> _What it does:_ A nice attractive mix for day to day use.
> 
> **Target Guy Combo (older guy)**  
> I spray Instant Sexiness A  
> 4 sprays MX135  
> 1 spray EST 50 mcg  
> medium strip Androstenol roll on  
> 2 sprays bubble gum cops  
> _What it does:_ Attracts guys who are looking for a relationship 30-50 (I haven’t tested much on guys over 45).
> 
> **Light Target Guy Combo (older guy)**  
> 1 spray Instant Sexiness A  
> 1 spray MX135  
> 1 spray EST 50 mcg  
> _What it does:_ A good casual mix to wear when you think you might just meet the guy of your dreams while running errands etc.
> 
> **Going Out Combo**  
> 2 sprays MX134  
> 2 sprays MX135  
> 1 spray P74 10 mcg  
> small strip androstenol roll on  
> 1 spray P83 12.5 mcg  
> 2 sprays bubble gum cops  
> _What it does:_ Wild. Crazy. Be forewarned. You may find yourself making out with a stranger.
> 
> **Light Casual Combo**  
> 1 spray Instant Sexiness A  
> small strip androstenol roll on  
> _What it does:_ Just a little bit of pheromones for when you don’t want to go naked.
> 
> **Favorite Everyday Combo**  
> 1 spray MX135  
> 1 spray Instant Sexiness A  
> 1 spray bubblegum copulins  
> _What it does:_ Big effect on others without blowing through your whole phero collection. A favorite for weekends.
> 
> Everyone is different. Please let me know how these work out for you. 🙂 If one does work for you do post about it (and maybe rep me? 🙄 ). I’d love to try out your modifications and your original combinations as well.
> 
> I’ll add more combos here as I’ve tested/tweaked/perfected them.
> 
> Best! Experiment!  
> Kitten 😉
> 
> (BTW: If you are brand new to pheromones, you’ll want to stick to the Instant series before you try out the MX and P series.)

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ok, kitten you are the bomb! i’m new and wanted to know what pheros (alone or in combos) would be idea to use in different situations and all my questions are answered right here. i’m so happy now! this place is so cool! i love it here! 😃

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_ **Hey Kitten! Great mixing guide! Good guide for a newbie like me!! Does layering them generally work better? And there are a few things on your post I have never heard of.. is all of that found on the store here? And do you know any mixes that will give you the same effect or close too for LAM? Thanks!** _

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/78 "2013-10-30T12:14:21Z")

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good thread.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/79 "2014-07-26T00:58:57Z")

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Very in depth & informative post.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittens-curious-combos/6017/80 "2014-07-28T12:02:42Z")

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> [@Journee](#):
>
> Very in depth & informative post.

It sure is Journee! That bubblegum cops business sounds like a must try! I’m glad this thread got Sticky’d.

_How’s the pheromone activity in your neck of the woods?_

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