# Knowing when someone is wearing pheremones

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 28, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395 "2012-11-28T19:38:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Brianryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Brianryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brianryan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/1 "2012-11-28T19:38:17Z")

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Im receiving my first order really soon. I want to go test it out at a local hang out where a lot of Asian women are hanging out and also working. ( yes you may already have guessed what this place may be; it is where cash is turned into chips) so a lot of them are busy or just concentrating on their money rather than looking for someone to talk to. Also lot of deadbeats hang out at these places but I still want to see.  
I’m wondering if lot of these people are experienced with knowing when pheremones are on someone. Is ammo or IO a very obvious or well known scent? Can someone know the effects of when being in the presence of Pheros?

Just wondering if anything like that has happened to anyone of you. A person near you asking if you have pheros on or something. Might catch me off guard or be putting me on the spot.

I am to receive ammo IS tuth and p83. Wonder what I should test out there a bit of ammo and IS or just IS? Not looking to pick up anyone but just get a good rapport of convo going with anyone. I’ve been to this place before and a few of them (just being honest but also assuming) I think find me attractive but since they are Asian they don’t make eye contact conspicuously but only when I happen to catch them glancing in a split second when I turn around or something. It really may be nothing. But I would be curious enough to see if my pheros would bring out a verdict of some sort. Not that it is any important of course but this is all in fun you know.

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**Author:** ![bigjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9bd4f/32.png) [@bigjoe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bigjoe)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/2 "2012-11-28T19:42:39Z")

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Hey Brian, I had a thought on this that you could always spray some cologne to cover the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). Like put the pheromones on your wrists, back of the ears, back of the neck, etc., and then put a cover cologne on the front of your neck.

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**Author:** ![Trainwreck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trainwreck/32/1517_2.png) [@Trainwreck](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trainwreck)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/3 "2012-11-28T19:51:00Z")

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You might get shit tested by some girls to see if your congruent with your signature.

I dont think any one would ask you if you have mones on, because they work subconsciously.

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**Author:** ![Brianryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Brianryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brianryan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/4 "2012-11-28T20:02:41Z")

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Thanks for the advice. I didn’t think putting on cologne over would mix well( sort of like mixing two types of perfume or sprays may actually be like ‘Lysol mixed with cooking’ scent affect.  
Good to know it is more on the subtle and subconscious. I’m going to report back here after my go and also wil be interested in having them on when at the gym.  
I go to a gym where a lot of Asian guys work out and they are either ‘serious’ or very high strung / take themselves too seriously I want to know what IO or IH would do in that environment. Also the ladies there (a lot but they most of the time keep to themselves unless with some good friend or acquaintance or SO)want to see how this will work out.  
Again not to pick anyone up ( I’m married) but just want to enjoy what may be a glorified ego-trip once in awhile.. or often.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/5 "2012-11-29T01:52:17Z")

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It is fine to layer cologne over all the Instants, TUTH, putatives and many MXs - they nearly all come in 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) - a light orange blossom scent that dries to a very light scent after half an hour or so and is a common scent on its own and also a common component of many colognes. Others use 6% Akuto which is more distinctive but still easy to cover.

Standard Ammo is in FF21 at 10% - an effective cologne scent (bit like Green Irish Tweed) that will be a challenge to cover/complement.

These scents have distinct properties - Neroli tends to form an even cloud around you, whilst FF21 tends to trail - People will find their way to you but IME, you only very rarely get awkward questions.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/6 "2012-11-29T02:14:56Z")

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Can they smell them ?

Yes sometimes they can if they consciously know what certain pheromones smell like. However unless your really experienced and familiar with pheromones peoples minds dont go right to " Oh hey I smell anone"

Can they tell if its your natural pheromones or something you sprayed on.

No they cant. There is a rare exception though. I knew when my son was sneaking his father mones simply because I know what ammo smells like and how it makes me feel. So suppose your best friend uses mones to and is aware you do. He may recognize when your wearing it simply because he is familiar with it.

Pheromones work in the subconscious part of the brain. They tend to smell like human body odor. Sometimes pleasant sometimes not so pleasant. The cover serves a few purposes. To make the stinkers smell more pleasing and it help carry the scent off your body.

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**Author:** ![Brianryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Brianryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brianryan)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/7 "2012-11-29T18:31:57Z")

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Thanks for all input.  
Today I went to the above place and hung around for a couple hours played a few hands and ate dinner there.  
Sprayed ammo three times twice on chest and once on back of neck but it sort of half missed as I didn’t aim well. Normal strength.  
Put on IS three sprays on neck. Including once right before I went in the place.  
The ammo was sprayed on at home.  
I had only a tight hoodie on and jeans. And my normal array of accessories like metal studded belt and iron- chain link necklace and stuff ( yeah my preference is to dress like this. Read my previous posts in suit thread on my casual wear preferences). I think maybe the hoodie rubbed my chest and neck a bit bc it is fitted/sort of tight but all I self effect felt was feeling of too much cologne like during the holidays at the mall. I usually don’t put on too much fragrance so this was sort of a scent high for me.

Went in there and as a summary I don’t think it really had any affect there. There are tons of older Asians men and women playing cards but this place employs some very attractive 30-45 yr old asian women who deal cards, serve food, serve cocktails and run chips. They are usually friendly but very dependent on mood and condition of people’s attitudes around them. Nobody there really is into hooking up with anyone there bc of the purpose of the place.  
However it is a good place to gauge friendliness but it also depends sort of on how familiar of a face you are there.

They know my face a bit I’m not a regular but I show up on occasion where they will say hi or how are you depending on who it is but they dot know my name. Today it was just the usual. See some people they smile loo up say hi haven’t seen you in awhile good luck and the sort. Nobody on the tables seem to be particularly moved or annoyed by my nomes. I’m sure they smell the fragrance as I was constantly smelling it. There is one chip runner who’s vietnamese and very fine and has a contagious smile I try to make eye contact with and I do and smile and say hello first time. Other times previously we always kind of linked eyes for a second but with no action. She looks and smiles at me Not bc of nomes but just bc I tried to sustain a eye contact with her and actually say hello to her. She acted really friendly and empathized with me when I had a horrible hand once. I don’t think she noticed any different with me other than me just trying to make comm with her. She maybe thinking why is this guy suddenly friendly today.  
Had dinner and the ladies serving me were just polite and nothing else but just courtesy and smiles but again this is all normal.

Lot of stares from the women security guards standing in the hall when I went to the restrooms and back and forth but I’m sure it is bc of the way I dress not of nomes. I always dress a bit liberally unisex and today’s tight hoodie ( w zipper third way down showing a bit of my chest ‘cleavage’ definition with the chunky sort of goth heavy chain link necklace might turn some heads not because they are turned on ( maybe so hopefully 😉 but bc they aren’t used to that look from a guy. Also I have some tight low rise jeans on and I like to wear the studded belts a bit loose to make it show visibly more lower than standard place for belt.

So all in all the looks and smiles and ’ look then I catch them and they quickly look away’ ( or look away quickly perhaps just incidentally when I turned to look at them. Many of us may confuse someone catching us looking then turning away as someone intent on looking at us instead of just perhaps they were looking our way for a moment w no intent). All this was normal fare. Maybe next time I will have to dress a bit more conservatively to give me a bit more control experiment.  
But it is really difficult to decide to wear just standard jeans and shirt out to places like this. I have to have on what I call my sexy clothes. At least to me. It may not be sexy to others but rather vile. But hey , I have more confidence in those clothes that express me properly.

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**Author:** ![Brianryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Brianryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brianryan)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/8 "2012-11-30T20:08:49Z")

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Went there again. And no obvious hits from Mones. Today at an outdoor mall too many people shopping and all sorts. I dot think this stuff works on me. Will try again another time.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/9 "2012-11-30T21:30:52Z")

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Outdoors is not so good for pheros - Diffusion is into a far greater volume of air so much weaker and your effective range plummets. Try to keep the mones to indoor activities or make the best use of any natural shelter to maximise exposure.

Also, mones won’t make them come running to youn(mostly) - in most cases you have to be proactive and engage people in every way you can.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/10 "2012-12-01T01:39:03Z")

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Casinos full of cigarettes and hardcore gaming are not very productive as far as mone testing. It’s not that people don’t detect some chemical messages from you. It’s that they have freewill and choose to ignore certain urges in favor of greed and obsessive gaming behavior. Hell, gamers will not sleep for days and hold their pee until it hurts if they think they might get lucky. In other words, while she may get your signal she is not expecting or wanting social interaction while obsessed with slots or blackjack. Mones are mildly suggestive and don’t invoke involuntary behavior or change morals.

The place you should test them is where people go to and are expecting to socialize. A place where they are in the mindset of hooking up meeting new people. Then that little nudge mones impart will give you an edge. Basically gravity and normal social skills are still in effect so you still need to smile, initiate and make witty conversation. It’s just that mones make what you say and do a little more significant and memorable.

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**Author:** ![Brianryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Brianryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brianryan)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 8:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/11 "2012-12-01T08:43:47Z")

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Good points thanks. Yeah plus Asian middle aged women may not respond well to nones as written here somewhere on forum.  
I am mildly approachable and smile (not gratuitously) often and when needed in public. I also do think though the way I dress may make me less approachable in normal public areas like banks and markets due to the slightly suggestive way I dress casually. It might make one awkward to come be with me.

I also went into Dave and busters last night while I was shipping at the mall. If you ever been there it is a social gaming restaurant establishment geared towards teens and young adults but lot of 40s are there as well due to families or just because. They are in a mindset of socializing but mainly with their friends and family they come in with. I walked around and stayed there for a Twenty mins but no hits. Not sure bc I don’t have eyes on back of my head.

I do get a sense that my ammo is either very weak or kiddie. I spray a lot. Like four times each time I wear it.  
Also at first I was afraid of the tuth. But after only one spray usage I upped if to two sprays. All on chest and zipped up behind a hoodie. Normal strength

Do you think I should wear tuth in neck or wrists? Same with ammo ?

I almost think that maybe the mone store didn’t mix in proper chemicals into my order. Like a guy who buys a latte at Starbucks and the barista doesn’t put in proper Amt of espresso.

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**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/knowing-when-someone-is-wearing-pheremones/57395/12 "2012-12-02T04:06:01Z")

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> I do get a sense that my ammo is either very weak or kiddie. I spray a lot. Like four times each time I wear it.

There a good chance that four sprays of AMMO produces an overdose.  
The same is true for two sprays of TUTH.

In any cases both aren’t produced that help to establish rapport and that encourage woman to approach you.  
Those are products that create attraction. If you lack the ability to establish approach and establish rapport with people running around with heavy AMMO or TUTH is not the best idea.

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> I also do think though the way I dress may make me less approachable in normal public areas like banks and markets due to the slightly suggestive way I dress casually.

Then why do you dress that way?
