# "L" is for "Cougar"!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/l-is-for-cougar/59421>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 25, 2013, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/l-is-for-cougar/59421 "2013-06-25T06:32:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/l-is-for-cougar/59421/8 "2013-06-27T08:59:55Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Great observation Miss dragon.
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> TAL and TAH are awesome to add to any female mix or on there own.
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> They don’t have anything to do with each other, other then the fact they work very well together and are derived from estrogens.
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> I have tested TAL along with just about every other molecule here. I find it closer to putatives in the range of P86 though P89 which were also estrogens. Not exactly the same but it has a female feel to it where as P75 and P80 have a heavier masculine feel to them when a female wears them.
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> Good stuff, workable on males when dosed correctly but more of a matriarchal vibe then the masculine counterpart.

Does the P79 through 86 thinking still hold? The store still stocks P89. What of this as a replacement for the beloved, erstwhile P86.

> [@Lovescent Pheromones....](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lovescent-pheromones/30119):
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> Hello everyone, I have a question, has anyone tried some of the lovescent [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) such as Estratrienol, Equilin, or Estradiol? Are they estrogen derivatives (wild guess)? I looked up Estradiol on this forum, but didn’t really find any reports or anything.. I refer to these substances as pheromones, because on the LS site it says, under each product note, that they are pheromones. Thanks, Dominick

I remember the whole deal about “P79 looks like P75 molecularly and it’s not androstAnone.” Three of 8 in the 18 and 19-carbon sequence are ketones, as is _A n one_. P79 being estrogen derived would throw me for a loop, but I guess [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and 79 don’t seem far off. 83 seemed volatile with women at high doses to me.  
[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Steroidogenesis.svg](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Steroidogenesis.svg)

Apologies if my thought process seems circumspect. I wouldn’t have made any connection with P75 and an estrogen derivation for P79-89 at all. Hopefully I’m not hijacking the thread. :o And, yes Miss D, we’ll diffusion test TAL. My terse journal report will just say “diffusion test from inanimate object.” Even if I did know what any particular substance was, I’d never say so; it would compromise Androtics position unfairly. Nice people don’t deserve that.

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