# Ladies, a lost gentleman needs your help.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 9, 2007, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552 "2007-07-09T02:45:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/61 "2007-09-10T01:31:36Z")

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As usual, Tisha’s dead on. 😉

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**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 10:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/62 "2007-09-10T10:36:29Z")

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May

Hi, enjoy your holiday is spain… if you want to catch up on what happened PM me and i will tell you exactly what happened.

Same for any one else PM me and i will explain. I just dont want to put it on the open forum. Dont be shy to PM me, i will respond.

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**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 11:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/63 "2007-09-27T11:48:55Z")

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Well the blog continues. you are patient people.

A friend of mine asked me today what happened…. So I told him what happened.  
So I may as well tell pherotalk what happened. No secrets right?

They say time heals, they are wrong time doesn’t heal… just reduces the intensity of the emotion. I guess I have gone far enough not feel the need to keep it inside but let it.

Well what happened, what went wrong…?

Well I went wrong, but two wrongs do not make a right… just makes things worse.

All my life girls have asked me out, yes, really, it is true. I have never asked a girl out first. I have flirted with them, and they asked me. My first few girlfriends chased me, and after that, it just became natural for me to accept invitations from women who had the courage to ask me.

L… asked me to sit with her in the park… she touched my hair and arms, saying how handsome i was. She asked me out. She got distruaght when i ignored her.

Guess that is what Mystery and Neil Strauss aspire to be. Girls chase you. I do not aspire to be like mystery or Strauss, the convey approach to bedding woman, smacks of insecurities and fear of long-term relationship ending in rejection. Well mystery was rejected, maybe he deserved it, you should read the game by Strauss.

August the 9th, she called me to congratulate me on passing my exam, at 10pm; we talked for 4 hours, flirted, joked, and teased each other. From midnight I kept saying goodnight, but we talked more, then more goodnights and more talking, hey we even talked of love…. It certainly felt like there was love there.

August 10th, I decided to visit her, she was at home all day cleaning, preparing to move out. I know I phoned her a couple of times, to find out. It was a surprise, I had no agenda, no intention to get her into bed, I couldn’t stay the night. When I got there she was in the shower in her apartment, I had to wait 20 minutes before she came down and opened the door.

She was surprised and defensive… she was nice ‘Habib, why didn’t you phone and let me know you were coming, my mom was here, and she would have cooked something for you.’ Was that such a sweet thing to say?

I asked her to come out with me and eat out, I have not eaten all day, except a cup of coffee. Alternatively, we could go in and order Pizza. Her apartment was a mess as she is moving out any way. So she came out.

Things became nasty suddenly at least from my perception, she turned to me and said ‘What if I had a man around how would it look?’

(Excuse me, what the f\*\*k did you just say).

She took my arm and we walked and talked, I felt humiliated by her comment. My head was spinning. She walked me to the station, like hell I was going anywhere with out eating, and I made that quite clear, I did not come 20 km and leave without eating. I felt like I was being treated like a naughty 10 year old who’s mom is walking him to school cos he wont go. Again she was humiliating me.

So she walked me to that shitty place called safeway, to get a sandwich, when a man hasn’t eaten all day, he wants a sandwich right? Twice I attempted to go for a sit down cooked hot meal. I hate sandwichs and she knows that, she likes sandwichs, I refused to pay for any sandwich.

So she asked, ‘aren’t you hungry, don’t you want to eat?’

I lost my cool. ‘I will eat when I get the f\*\*k home, just go and leave me alone, I am wasting my time here’

Her face fell, her eyes fell, she was looking down. She turned away and crossed a busy road without looking. No goodbyes, no word, no looking back…..

Goodbye… but I cant be treated that way by any one. Stupid comments, dragged to the station, dragged back for a sandwich…that’s the last I saw of her, the last words I said to her. They weren’t words of affection, but words of irritation. And that’s how she will remember me for the rest of her life.

Well there you go that’s it…. Maybe I was wrong, Maybe Mystery and Strauss are right, and I got it wrong…..

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**Author:** ![SalsaguyUK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SalsaguyUK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SalsaguyUK)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/64 "2007-09-28T12:04:19Z")

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Hey Habib,

Things you say here echo my own situation I go to a salsa social every Thursday after my usual class and the past few weeks my ex of four years has “conincidentally” started attending the salsa too. Although Im not currently dating anyone else at the moment although have several offers just when I seem to get myself into the right frame of mind to start afresh with someone else I run into my ex and then Im right back where I started.

She was there again last night and I tried to ignore her and just dance with other people to no avail that just made her worse and although when I saw her I promised myself I wouldnt hug or hold her I still did after going outside and talking to her in the freezing cold for 2 hours. The painful thing is that I know when Im with her that I still love her she knows this too and is just using me to get the caring and tenderness she obviously doesnt get anywhere else. The problem I have and I think you do too Habib is that until we both draw a line under our situations we aren’t able to move forward with anybody new. The conclusion I came too last night was to just avoid her and make more of an effort to actively date other people instead of subconsciously harboring the hope that we will one day get back together. Hope things work out for you mate your definitely better off without her.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 10:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/65 "2007-09-29T10:02:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Things became nasty suddenly at least from my perception, she turned to me and said ‘What if I had a man around how would it look?’
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> (Excuse me, what the f\*\*k did you just say).

This in my opinion was her just trying to get a rise out of you to validate your feelings for her which you did by getting pissed off. Girls will sometimes try to make men jealous when they are insecure.

> [@](#):
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> So she walked me to that shitty place called safeway, to get a sandwich, when a man hasn’t eaten all day, he wants a sandwich right? Twice I attempted to go for a sit down cooked hot meal. I hate sandwichs and she knows that, she likes sandwichs, I refused to pay for any sandwich.
> 
> So she asked, ‘aren’t you hungry, don’t you want to eat?’
> 
> I lost my cool. ‘I will eat when I get the f\*\*k home, just go and leave me alone, I am wasting my time here’
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> Her face fell, her eyes fell, she was looking down. She turned away and crossed a busy road without looking. No goodbyes, no word, no looking back…..

I agree, safeway is crap LOL. Either she has bad taste in food or she is on a tight budget from just moving. Maybe she wasnt sure who was paying since that is one of the things you origonally worked on. Not paying for her all the time. Did you tell her flat out “I really dont want a sandwich so lets go somewhere we can sit down and eat”. If you did and she ignored it then she was being insensitive.

I am not saying you were wrong. I just dont think the 2 of you mesh. She is probably to needy and self centered and your giving and considerate. Makes for a tough relationship. You gave it your best try and were not happy so I think this is the best thing for you. The world is filled with peeps just get out there be yourself (ramped up with mones of course) 😉 and you will find the girl who was ment for you.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/66 "2007-09-29T15:12:42Z")

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> [@SalsaguyUK](#):
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> Hey Habib,
> 
> Things you say here echo my own situation I go to a salsa social every Thursday after my usual class and the past few weeks my ex of four years has “conincidentally” started attending the salsa too. Although Im not currently dating anyone else at the moment although have several offers just when I seem to get myself into the right frame of mind to start afresh with someone else I run into my ex and then Im right back where I started.
> 
> She was there again last night and I tried to ignore her and just dance with other people to no avail that just made her worse and although when I saw her I promised myself I wouldnt hug or hold her I still did after going outside and talking to her in the freezing cold for 2 hours. The painful thing is that I know when Im with her that I still love her she knows this too and is just using me to get the caring and tenderness she obviously doesnt get anywhere else. The problem I have and I think you do too Habib is that until we both draw a line under our situations we aren’t able to move forward with anybody new. The conclusion I came too last night was to just avoid her and make more of an effort to actively date other people instead of subconsciously harboring the hope that we will one day get back together. Hope things work out for you mate your definitely better off without her.

Hey Salsa Guy you summed it all up… it was very precise… she is back on tuesday in the office, her secondment is over. Though i havent spoken to her since August 10th i havent had a decent nights sleep. 😃 LOL. A part of me hopes she hasn’t either. I am still infuriated by that comment and her behaviour, man all i could think of was eating, and still not in a forgiving mood.

Though i am sure you could give up salsa to avoid her, (but dont give up), i would need to quit my job. No i am going to hold my head up high. I have agreat job.

Yes i am going to draw a line, thats a good idea, thanks mate, i am going work, i have a promotion at work to Trader in Equities and Fixed income securities, i reckon i can retire by 37 years old. I am going to by a ranch in a quiet part of the world, outside UK somewhere, maybe Morocco, Tunisia or Argentina, i speak 5 languages, so no problem. Buy a horse to go riding every morning and a boat to go fishing. (Maybe use some Turn up the heat to catch those fish 🙄 ) … thats my goal now…

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**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/67 "2007-10-07T21:35:56Z")

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Hey every one.

… I found her… after two months i found her…

OMG … and i am gonna get her back… She is mine and i am not gonna give up with out a fight…

After all i got Mystery, Neil Strauss, David de Angelo and 20 other authors on relationships in my head… i am going to get her.

I know where i went wrong and what she was doing, and played the game wrong and lost. But this time i am going to win… cos i know the rules of the game.

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**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/68 "2007-10-11T15:13:03Z")

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Wednesday 10 october

I was such a jerk.

I wore the following

3 dabs of A314  
3 Sprays of Instant Openness  
3 Sprays of Instant Honesty  
4 Sprays of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)  
3 Instant Shine  
3 Ammo

I was such a jerk. Guess i overdosed.

I recently met my lady again after an absence of 2 months. Things are not what they used be like. I detect things under the surface being suppressed. Well i am going to be a jerk. She wasn’t playing the game, and i wasnt focused. I guess the pheromones were to much for her and me. She was moody talkative one minute, withdrawn and akward the next.  
I had flowers and chocolates in my bag for her, but i didnt give them to her, she saw the flowers and reached in my bag for them, smiled and started saying ‘Habib, habib, flowers for…’ she dropped the flowers. I smiled, she went straight into my trap. I gave them to her in the end, and she took them after her usual resisitance. I ate the chocolates, she wanted them as well, but an unopened box. Well i am going to be jerk. I made it clear to her she hurt my feelings, and i wasnt given the chance to say everything i wanted to.

The week before she gave me the come on eye contact and flirty smile, and all i was wearing was IFM, plus i did not realise i was going to bump into her.

Any ideas on how i should balance the pheros, so i tone down and next time i dont get her in such a rolloar coaster mood.

Time for a change in tact, aloofness and as Mystery and Deangelo 2 steps back. One of my friends said it took her 1 year to get her man, another said she was with her boyfriend after he was aloof and disinterested in her for a year, after that she couldnt take it any more. Just be nice thats all.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/69 "2007-10-11T16:39:03Z")

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Habib

You know I am pretty blunt, right?

Your wearing to much mones.

I dont understand why you say “you are going to be a jerk”. If you like her why would you want to be a jerk ? Did you feel the mones made you into a jerk. Because even with a OD they wont over ride your free will.

Tone it down big time with them. Pick 3 products. Dont wear A314 and Ammo together right now. So go with something like…

3 sprays of ammo (sexy)  
2 of IH (social)  
2 IFM to back of head (mood enhancing)

OR

3 to 4 full drops (not dabs) of A314 (strong sexy)  
2 sprays of IO (social)  
2 to 3 sprays of Instant shine. ( Mood enhancing)

Get it 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/70 "2007-10-11T18:12:37Z")

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I didn’t want to be a jerk, i just behaved like one. I shocked my self.

The nice guys always finish last.

I wanted to flirt with her, but i ended up behaving like an asshole. I was completely aware my behaviour was not normal for me… but i couldnt control myself.

Overdose…

Thanks Tish i shall try those combinations tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![spot007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@spot007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spot007)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/71 "2007-10-13T18:23:21Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Tone it down big time with them. Pick 3 products. Dont wear A314 and Ammo together right now.Tisha

Tisha, do A314 and Ammo not mix well together?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/72 "2007-10-13T22:15:26Z")

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Not for Habi’s situation right now. Habi said he was cranky and she was distant when he wore both. It also depends on your age as well since both products contain anone.

Alot of guys do wear them together and it works for them you just have to test it out. Mones are not a one mix fits all product either. What I mean is a mix that makes someone I work with aroused or friendly may not work on my next door neighbor the same way. Not that I want to arouse the old coot LOL. After you get used to wearing the products you will find your base mix. This is the base coat of mones that works for you on most people. Then you will add different things on different days to stear reactions according to what you doing that day.

Like I always wear [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A with 1 spray of anol or IO this is my base mix. Now if I am going to a party I may add some MX135 for a fun sexy edge. Or if I am going out with my husband I will add some cops or MX216. Once you get used to it its fun to change it up for different situations it keeps them on there toes. 😉

Tish

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**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/73 "2007-11-04T23:26:38Z")

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4th November

Well its been a while, so this is going to be long one.

This is a blog, so you dont have to read it if you dont want to.  
I want this to be advice for the men, dont screw up like i did. and to the ladies help the poor guy out, the one who loves you.

After all men do have feelings as well.

We have met 3 times and spoke twice on the phone, but the magic is gone. The atmoshpere is tense, not like it used to be. I sense fear both mines and hers. If this continues i dont think i can stand being around her.

I am depressed and i am refusing the medication, the bloody doctor is a lady and she has the same name as my love, this makes it worse for me.

I cant her out of my head.

I have been waiting for the CTTM 2 so i can use it with the IS and others. I sense i am loosing her for good. So i am going to do it. i am going to tell her that i love her. What have i got to loose.

I want to move on.

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/74 "2007-11-14T03:00:59Z")

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Habib - YOU HAVE EVERYTHING TO LOSE!!! Even though you feel that you don’t have her now, and and that there’s nothing to lose, telling her you love her at this point cannot help, and will likely push her away forever.

If I can take a minute to give my advice, which you are welcome to take or leave and I hope that Tisha, Laurie, May, Carrie and Dolly and the other ladies reading this post will chime in on, whether to agree, disagree, or call me an idiot and say that I’m dead wrong, this is how I would handle it:

Step way back, give her space, and if you can get to the point of meeting for drinks at some point, you might try taking the approach of telling her that it’s to bad that the two of you couldn’t make things work, and that at ONE TIME you felt that the two of you could of had a great future together. You might even tell her that when you thought there might be the possibility of things working out between the two of you, that you were far more tolerant of the blow offs and cancellations than you would normally be with a woman.

You have given her all the power from the beginning, and she knew that she was in control and could dictate exactly how things were going to be. If you now tell her that you love her, I seriously doubt that she’s going to change her way of thinking and fall into your arms. She already has all the power!

I’m sorry to be so blunt, but in my opinion the only chance you have at winning her over is to make here think that you’ve lost interest and walked away. And, I’m sorry to say but I think the chances of that happening are less than stellar.

Think about it, when she would ask you out, then stand you up, I’m willing to bet that it made you like her that much more. It’s human nature, we don’t want our potential partners to be to easy to get, we like a challange.

Habib, I do feel bad for you. We’ve all been in love and had our hearts broken, but in my opinion, trying to win her over by telling her you love her, is like trying to treat insomnia with methamphetimines. I think its the wrong thing to do and would only push her completely away at this point.

Sorry for being so blunt, but I really am trying to help. Best wishes to you.

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**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/75 "2007-11-14T16:08:00Z")

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Thanks Mark-in-Dallas…

I see thw point you mean… frankly our roles have reversed, initially she was doing the chasing and i the avoiding, but now its me doing the chasing..

I see what you mean and i will try to act on it, i only intend to tell her at the last possible moment anyway.

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/76 "2007-11-14T17:05:08Z")

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Habib,

You are welcome, and thanks for the reps. I hope things work out well for you.

I had seen a somewhat similar situation just a couple of months back, and your story reminded me of how that one ended, so I wanted to see if I could maybe help.

Here’s that story:

I had a friend not to long ago (female) who had this guy that was like a lost puppy with her - he was always telling her how much he liked her, texting her 5 times a day, always wanting to be with her, etc.

The more he tried to move things forward, the harder she pushed him away. Until her birthday, when he told her that he loved her and just wanted to be with her. She never talked to him again after that.

By the way, they had been out on all of one date.

This girl was seeing several guys casually, and said that she wasn’t looking to jump into anything. I also originally had an interest in her, and we had gone out on a couple of dates, but I quickly saw that she was still hung up on an old boyfriend, and didn’t really like being just one of several guys that she was dating either, so told her that I was pulling myself out of the mix and that we should just be friends. She actually got all teary eyed, and after that started kind of chasing me.

I had been trying to tell this guy to back off and slow down since they met. I told him that if he kept acting like a lost puppy with her he was going to push her away, but he believed that he had to let her know how he felt, and that if he did, she would reciprocate the feelings.

The funny thing is that when she first met him she was actually interested in him. But, he made himself far to easy to get, and gave her all the power. Once the challange was gone, she lost interest.

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/77 "2007-11-15T00:10:26Z")

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Good posting there, Mark! Here are some rep points for you.🙂

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/78 "2007-11-15T00:18:43Z")

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Thanks Mohammad. We’ve all been that lost puppy in love at one point or another, and almost always our hearts desire conflicts with the logic and experience of our mind.

From Habib’s posts, I believe that the guy probably doesn’t have any kind of problem in attracting women, and I think if he could have eliminated the emotional desire and focused on past experiences, he would have handled the situation completely differently.

Habib, that really is meant as a compliment too!

And, I appreciate the reps!

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/79 "2007-11-15T01:08:04Z")

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> [@mark-in-dallas](#):
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> Thanks Mohammad. We’ve all been that lost puppy in love at one point or another, and almost always our hearts desire conflicts with the logic and experience of our mind.
> 
> From Habib’s posts, I believe that the guy probably doesn’t have any kind of problem in attracting women, and I think if he could have eliminated the emotional desire and focused on past experiences, he would have handled the situation completely differently.
> 
> Habib, that really is meant as a compliment too!
> 
> And, I appreciate the reps!

Yeah! I guess he’s like Michael Jackson…“a lover not a fighter”!😛

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552/80 "2007-11-15T10:50:00Z")

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> [@mark-in-dallas](#):
>
> Thanks Mohammad. We’ve all been that lost puppy in love at one point or another, and almost always our hearts desire conflicts with the logic and experience of our mind.
> 
> From Habib’s posts, I believe that the guy probably doesn’t have any kind of problem in attracting women, and I think if he could have eliminated the emotional desire and focused on past experiences, he would have handled the situation completely differently.
> 
> Habib, that really is meant as a compliment too!
> 
> And, I appreciate the reps!

Thanks Mark for the compliment…

Even though we dont know each other, you are right about me. I’ve literally malfunctioned somewhere along the line with her… where else your right i dont have problems attracting girls, and repelling them if need be!!! This is the first time i actually got emotionally tangled up.

The other day i was out with a lady friend, who is like a sister to me, and we were talking in a bar, 2 girls we’re repeatedly giving me eye contact giggling and trying to get my attention, my Friend (sister) got up and called them bitches, strangers would have thought she was my girlfriend. and yesterday i girl i hardly know wanted to move in with me, she really gives a lot of IOI when we meet, and agreed to come to my home one evening, got her number as well.

And Mark your advice makes sense, i read it in Deangelo’s books and other dating books as well, any way i have something up my sleeve, i just needed someone to beat it into me.

Sometimes she slips back to old habits and calls me Habibi (My Love - in Arabic) rather then by my first name, which every one else does. Habib is my middle name. she is falling back into the old habits, i SMS her and she calls me and we will talk for hours. I just need to be more aloof and less friendly. She is going to be mine man!!!🆒

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