# Ladies, I give you the Female Phero Color Chart by MuskCloud **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 31, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847 "2007-01-31T14:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/1 "2007-01-31T14:20:27Z")
… the female pheromone selection grid (Acrobat Reader file). I’ve had some fantastic feedback for the men’s grid, and now the women have theirs. It’s intended for beginners to use when deciding what to use for their first venture into the phero world, and their first combos. The standard [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are there, as well as the most popular from the TA series. Some male pheros have also found their way into the grid. You can thank the Countess and her experiments with Dirty for that. Again, I’m just armour-plating my ass here, but the grid is based on my interpretation of the feedback on these forums and the Androtics website. Any mistakes are mine. Hope you find it useful. Musk ![Female Pheromone Selection Grid-1.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/7/7b8bd321c92664e4e9f3c0e014b0db3f6dba152b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/2 "2007-01-31T15:01:16Z")
That’s a very good grid for beginners to be able to reference. I don’t TOTALLY agree with a fair bit of it, but I understand you got the info just from reading here, so it will defnitely help those just starting out.. I assume this is only based on Androtics’ products? Maybe if you amend it in the future, you should include Essence of Woman, as it is really a staple of the majority of the ladies here - whether new to it all, or old hands. EW is from Love-Scent. Also, maybe you could put MX134 in someplace, as that is the women’s version of A314. Good job though. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/3 "2007-01-31T18:50:38Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > That’s a very good grid for beginners to be able to reference. I don’t TOTALLY agree with a fair bit of it, but I understand you got the info just from reading here, so it will defnitely help those just starting out.. OK, I’m open to feedback. I could have got it wrong, hence the disclaimer at the bottom of my post. If experienced users think a combo should be yellow when it’s red, I’ll change it and repost. Sifting through a 1000 word essay when reading feedback might make for very interesting reading, but introduces many new shades of colour. A combo might have 4 reports of sexual hits, but then some reports come in suggesting it may be suitable for the dating / LTR category. Unless I want to mess around with 10 shades of orange, I’ve got to decide: red or yellow? > [@](#): > > I assume this is only based on Androtics’ products? It is. The more pheros there are, the number of potential combos rises very quickly. I’ve left out some of the TA\* series because I couldn’t find definite feedback on those. The MX\* and P\* series have also been left out due to their experimental status and to save space. Same goes for competing products from other companies. Having a vast grid would be confusing for beginners. > [@](#): > > Maybe if you amend it in the future, you should include Essence of Woman, as it is really a staple of the majority of the ladies here - whether new to it all, or old hands. Essence of Woman is from Love-Scent. 🙂 I’ve noticed. It’s been very interesting trawling through the forums. EoW will appear in revision 2. But before I do, I’ll wait for more feedback. Musk ---
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/4 "2007-01-31T23:16:57Z")
Thanks for your efforts for both grids, they are much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/5 "2008-11-21T23:19:53Z")
Bump for musk. I also added the color chart as a jpeg. ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/6 "2008-11-21T23:28:03Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Bump for musk. I also added the color chart as a jpeg. Steve, I swear you read my mind. I went looking for the chart because Mer was asking when I could do one for the women, and hey presto, you bump it. Anyway, ladies, feedback is welcome, and I hope you find it useful. Always willing to change the odd detail if enough of you think it should be changed. Any mistakes are mine. Musk ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/7 "2008-11-21T23:29:24Z")
> [@MuskCloud](#): > > Steve, I swear you read my mind. I went looking for the chart because Mer was asking when I could do one for the women, and hey presto, you bump it. > > Anyway, ladies, feedback is welcome, and I hope you find it useful. Always willing to change the odd detail if enough of you think it should be changed. Any mistakes are mine. > > Musk Not your mind, I read the post silly 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/8 "2008-11-21T23:29:44Z")
Hey Musk!! I thought you had disappeared. I never see you post. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/9 "2008-11-21T23:40:34Z")
The effort was good but the information in it is not correct. There is quite a bit that I would change. Some need more then one color in the block to. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/10 "2008-11-22T21:16:26Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > The effort was good but the information > > in it is not correct. There is quite a bit that I would change. > > Some need more then one color in the block to. > > Tisha That’s what I love about women. 🙂 Infuriating, too. 😕 You’ve got watercolour minds, with tens of colours all bleeding together to create delicate shades, and you paint vast emotional landscapes with them that put us guys to shame. No two shades of colour are alike. One will lean more to the red, another will lean more to the yellow. Men are like oil paintings, stark contrasts and bold colours. “Muahaha! I made the boss cower with this mix! Grab that blue tube!” _splot!_ “Whew! What a night! That one’s in the red corner!” _splodge!_ _smear!_ I could put more than one colour in the block, but then someone is going to ask, “When is it red, and when is it yellow? When can a mix be blue and later on, be green?” A grid can’t tell you that. If a combo has too many colours, will the grid lose its usefulness? It was designed to condense the vast amount of data on this forum into a quick and easy reference, a whole 1000-page book in one image. It cannot be precise, but I will try, if you will point out where I’ve gone wrong? Feel free to throw the book at me, Tish. 😃 I’m fully aware of the responsibility I took on when creating the grids, and want them to be accurate. They’re useless if they’re not, and they are, after all, over a year old now. A lot more water - reports - under the bridge. Musk ---
**Author:** ![Paddington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@Paddington](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Paddington)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/11 "2008-11-23T23:21:28Z")
This is REALLY useful to people like me, who haven’t the foggiest idea where to start. Thanks! (and hi!) ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/12 "2008-11-24T14:58:28Z")
You’re very welcome, Jess. Hi to you, too. Musk ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/13 "2008-11-25T12:25:35Z")
> [@](#): > > you will point out where I’ve gone wrong? Ok, I will try… LAM is sexual all the way down the line with whatever you use it with. Its heavy copulins. Women generally dont use A314, we use MX134 IS/B and IS/A are sexy not sexual unless used with LAM or dirty There is a difference between those two words. So a few columns referring to that are off. I would say Yellow LTR dating and Green social Tal is not sexual on its own, I would say its go’s in the blue and yellow category. IS/A can be good in a business environment as well as the other categories. All of the them are good for long term dating so you may want to mention on there that the grid is just showing what people generally use combos for so that they dont rule certain mixes out for certain situations Its a good graph just needs some tweaking and expansion to be accurate Tisha ---
**Author:** ![cninasoto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cninasoto/32/552_2.png) [@cninasoto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cninasoto)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/14 "2008-11-25T15:49:08Z")
This is so 🆒 thank you. As a newbie I’m still getting used to everything you guys have to offer and its effects. This chart helps a lot. Now I can discard my note pad. Thank you so very much. Till next time, Cindy ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/15 "2008-11-25T21:05:20Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Ok, I will try… A thanks isn’t enough. Reps are on the way. I appreciate your effort to help out. 🙂 > [@tisha23](#): > > LAM is sexual all the way down the line The female Turn Up The Heat. OK. > [@tisha23](#): > > Women generally dont use A314, we use MX134 I’ll change it. At the time, I don’t think MX134 existed. I remember a few posts from women experimenting with using the [male pheromones](https://phero.com/) like A314. Along with Dirty, that was, and still is, I think, aimed at men. Which is why they are included. I was thinking that the women’s grid looked very small in comparison to the men’s. Whether or not it existed, I didn’t include any of the MX or P series for reasons I explained in the men’s forum. Pheroquirk took up the slack with his own spreadsheet for the experimentals and putatives. But I’ll make an exception and research MX134 combos. I’ve noticed it’s got a lot of attention. > [@tisha23](#): > > IS/B and IS/A are sexy not sexual unless used with LAM or dirty There is a difference between those two words. _Reaches for dictionary_ Uh huh. I think I understand. I’ll have a go at it, but it might be easier to simply rewrite the legend to encompass both sexy and sexual. Maybe something like, ‘Promote sexual desire in your target / initiate sexual encounters’. Before you turn me into a frog, that was just a first draft off the top of my head. 😃 > [@tisha23](#): > > Tal is not sexual on its own, I would say its go’s in the blue and yellow category. I’ll research the latest reports on TAL. Your search engine is going to be hammered. > [@tisha23](#): > > IS/A can be good in a business environment as well as the other categories. Alone, it’s a chameleon. Ok then. > [@tisha23](#): > > All of the them are good for long term dating so you may want to mention on there that the grid is just showing what people generally use combos for so that they dont rule certain mixes out for certain situations 🙄_Gives up and chucks yellow paint over the grid_ LOL! OK, I’ll see what I can do. 😃 > [@tisha23](#): > > Its a good graph just needs some tweaking and expansion to be accurate Thanks, Tish. As long as it’s useful. > [@cninasoto](#): > > This is so 🆒 thank you. 😃 Musk ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/16 "2009-01-07T22:07:03Z")
bump for Xiphoid ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/17 "2009-01-08T17:02:41Z")
> [@MuskCloud](#): > > bump for Xiphoid Bump noted 😉 (A bit of time diff & not having forum access at work to blame…) Great thread, loads of useful info as usual AND I got my colourcoded chart 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/18 "2010-01-09T16:45:53Z")
Instants Sexiness A and B combined is good? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-i-give-you-the-female-phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1847/19 "2013-05-15T22:41:00Z")
Did this chart ever get updated?