# LAM 's cop output **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 9, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562 "2006-08-09T16:15:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/1 "2006-08-09T16:15:09Z")
does anyone have the information on [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) 's cop output? i have the primal/w and dont use it very often unless i want a 'nol buzz around me because the cops in the mix are negligable. i have read by several posters that LAM is superior to primal/w due to higher cop amounts, and since im used to EW, what does that translate into? i mean, is LAM middle ground between the 2, is it just a step stronger than primal/w, or is it the next strongest thing to EW? thanks in advance for your replies…😉 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/2 "2006-08-09T18:04:26Z")
Lust After Me has a higher grade, American synthesized nol, a better designed carrier (vehicle agent), and some top shelf essential oils. You can read about [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) for a glimpse into our old oil line. Lust After Me goes beyond the Raw Power design. Primal doesn’t smell like it contains copulins whatsoever. It seems to work like plain androstenol. I’d venture to say that it has no copulins, except for ones we imagine. So, technically, LAM would have infinitely more. Strength-wise, it doesn’t contain as many acids as EW. I’m not taking the liability of carrying a product that destroys it’s own container. That’s just asking to be attacked by the FDA, or with civil lawsuits from ambulance chasers. However, we use plant components for some of the acids, so the cops in LAM are stronger in certain ways. I notice more of a sillage with our copulin blend. Our new blend in the making takes a different approach, and should have even more sillage. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/3 "2006-08-09T21:36:09Z")
alot of us cant even wait. another something we can add to anything… fun fun fun. EW’s saving grace with me is that it is potent enough to be able to add a drop to any mix and you have a cop-mixture. im looking forward to a cop-mix with more sillage…wicked 😉 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/4 "2006-08-10T20:48:42Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > alot of us cant even wait. > another something we can add to anything… fun fun fun. > EW’s saving grace with me is that it is potent enough to be able to add a drop to any mix and you have a cop-mixture. > im looking forward to a cop-mix with more sillage…wicked 😉 Yeah, MHarris, we can’t _even_ wait. I’m hopping up and down to experiment with the new fish sauce, myself! I can just imagine it… I put on a drop of Ultra Secret New Androtics Copulins Mix #2 and BOOM! There’s a mini-solar system of sillage surrounding me which blasts everyone with instant primal ravage lust! Hopefully it’ll be vastly more effective than what we have available to us now. _hop hop_ OK, so I’m sleep deprived and I’m running on some very silly marbles right now. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/5 "2006-08-12T00:09:22Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Yeah, MHarris, we can’t _even_ wait. I’m hopping up and down to experiment with the new fish sauce, myself! I can just imagine it… I put on a drop of Ultra Secret New Androtics Copulins Mix #2 and BOOM! There’s a mini-solar system of sillage surrounding me which blasts everyone with instant primal ravage lust! Hopefully it’ll be vastly more effective than what we have available to us now. _hop hop_ > > OK, so I’m sleep deprived and I’m running on some very silly marbles right now. 🙂 Hehe. Well, it’s not fish sauce. This is not based on traditional copulin formulary, which indeed smells quite bit like either fish sauce… or worse, a woman “at that time of month”. I want our new approach to smell like a real, _healthy_ women. Preferably the scent a woman gives off near ovulation, not the other time of the month. It’s not on our normal timeline since we’re not working on this internally, and none of the normal outside people we work with are involved with it. I have one of the world’s few heterosexual, woman-loving \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_s on the case. 🙂 It may take quite awhile. I’ll do a status check soon, but I really don’t want to rush it. You know we’re a bit slow sometimes. That’s because I’ve never been in a rush to have _something_ to sell. To me, it’s only fair to sell something when there’s something _worth_ selling. Does that make sense? I’m not a huge fan of Plato’s work overall (too many justifications for lies & evil in some of his work), but he has some good points sometimes. Here’s a good quote from him: **“Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.”** **- Plato** We can rewrite that to something like… “Wise businesses sell because they have something worth selling; bad businesses, because they have to sell something” Make sense? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/6 "2006-08-12T02:23:48Z")
this why we call ourselves devotees, and not customers,MHarris! 😃 im very willing to wait for something that knocks my sox off (or someone elses, if THAT day ever comes,lol) and the more accurate, the better. most of the posters here fall into 2 catagories… i want a mix that is great and so i buy one that works for me…or i buy a mix that works for me and get inspired to play and add and start my own little mix-lab. i tend to think the first more often than not becomes the second. you know, i think my biggest issue right now is that im on a forum that argues that there is no research or proof that copulins have the ability to attract. i was very skeptical to try them, and even more skeptical when results were there, thinking it was all in my head. i was setting them up to fail, and in the end they didnt. is there research anyone knows of that i can check out? TY! ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/7 "2006-08-12T03:41:01Z")
Where did you get that there is no research to back it up, Lor? There is tons. I have to get to bed now as it’s after 4 AM, but I’ll dig some out tomorrow for you. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/8 "2006-08-12T05:17:44Z")
Natural copulins are recorded in history as having been used for hundreds of years. It’s well worn tradition for ladies of the earth’s oldest profession to wear a bit of their own copulins behind their ears. There’s also some good research from Astrid Jutte. The only thing I doubt is the actual number generated by Jutte’s research. I don’t have much reason to doubt in her actual research, but “150% boost in testosterone” sounds like someone’s been rounding. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/9 "2006-08-12T05:30:11Z")
“Nearly 150%”. That’s better. [http://www.anticipation.info/texte/eibesfeldt/evolution.anthro.univie.ac.at/institutes/urbanethology/student/html/astrid/femphers.html](http://www.anticipation.info/texte/eibesfeldt/evolution.anthro.univie.ac.at/institutes/urbanethology/student/html/astrid/femphers.html) ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/10 "2006-08-13T06:18:08Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > The only thing I doubt is the actual number generated by Jutte’s research. I don’t have much reason to doubt in her actual research, but “150% boost in testosterone” sounds like someone’s been rounding. Yea, as a male, I have tried putting dabs of copulins products under my nose a few times when wearing A1 and have really noticed my confidence, mood, expressiveness and thoughts not becoming ‘negative’ at all - totally different to wearing A1 without the copulins. I am quite sure copulins do increase testosterone levels in males. Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 11:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/11 "2006-08-14T11:16:36Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Yea, as a male, I have tried putting dabs of copulins products under my nose a few times when wearing A1 and have really noticed my confidence, mood, expressiveness and thoughts not becoming ‘negative’ at all - totally different to wearing A1 without the copulins. I am quite sure copulins do increase testosterone levels in males. > > Visionary how long would you say before you notice the cops affecting you? i wonder how long a man has to be in the vicinity of cops before there is a noticable difference… ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 12:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/12 "2006-08-14T12:09:19Z")
“The Man” reacts as soon as he sees me when I am wearing cops. The reaction to straight EW and straight LAM used individually are always strong, but LAM+EW is off the hook. I use that when I want to seriously “get busy..” ^\_~ I give anything cops-based ten minutes to settle before applying a cover fragrance for the best possible effects, so it’s usually about 15 mins after application that I see him. His friend was badly affected by me wearing cops the other night, when we dropped in to see him en route to the cinema, and was coming on very strong, much to “The Man’s” utter confusion, since his pal has known me for years, and has never acted that way before. I kind of had to make our excuses to leave, so we could get things back on an even keel.. I think cops would work even faster, if I didn’t wait to apply the cover fragrance, but I always prefer to do so. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/13 "2006-08-14T13:27:38Z")
😮 that is very interesting to me… why do you think the time you wait to put the cover scent on delays how another recieves the cops? is it a “settling” issue? does the scent mixing with wet cops slow sillage , as opposed to applying over dry cops? i ask because the i dont usually see imediate results, they are more after 20 minutes… but im thinking you are much closer in proximity to your S.O. than i would be to a stranger…😛 or there may be other factors. i am not very approachable (even smiling,lol) so i usually get the notes on the cars,stuff handed to me with phone numbers,ect. i rarely get direct eye contact, so i have been experimenting wearing very passive, no balls 'mones…and lots of TAH. Does LAM to you seem different than EW, or just less strong-more refined? i wear cops because i think i might be approached more than just IO and TAH, which has been my strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/14 "2006-08-14T15:56:05Z")
Hi Lor! I would say the reactions to EW or LAM + EW are definitely stronger and faster than those of LAM alone, but LAM still gives good results. I think you need to be with the person you are targetting for at least 40 minutes for LAM alone to work its magic. I apply the EW or LAM + EW ten minutes before application of my cover-scent, because years ago Dr. Smell This explained that this was the best way to get excellent coverage for EW, and by doing things this way, the EW scent REALLY fades to virtually nothing by the time you apply your perfume of choice. He has not steered me wrong on that fact. I find LAM alone can be covered almost instantly with any cover-scent. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/15 "2006-08-14T16:05:19Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Hi Lor! > > I would say the reactions to EW or LAM + EW are definitely stronger and faster than those of LAM alone, but LAM still gives good results. I think you need to be with the person you are targetting for at least 40 minutes for LAM alone to work its magic. > > I apply the EW or LAM + EW ten minutes before application of my cover-scent, because years ago Dr. Smell This explained that this was the best way to get excellent coverage for EW, and by doing things this way, the EW scent REALLY fades to virtually nothing by the time you apply your perfume of choice. He has not steered me wrong on that fact. > > I find LAM alone can be covered almost instantly with any cover-scent. > > Ail 🙂 **GOOD TO KNOW!!!** i have been having issues with the scent of EW because of the heat. its bad lately. so i dont even try to wear it,lol. it looks like its going to cool some so im looking forward to another try. thank you 😉 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/16 "2006-08-15T04:13:52Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > how long would you say before you notice the cops affecting you? i wonder how long a man has to be in the vicinity of cops before there is a noticable difference… I personally notice the cops affecting me instantly. The second I notice them, they affect me in a rather dramatic manner. Men tend to notice cops because men are more likely to have lead foot, and cops probably notice men more because of this. As a man, I’d have to say there’s a noticeable difference instantly whenever I’m in the vicinity of cops, except when the cop is a friend of mine. I have a few cop friends. LOL Sorry, I couldn’t resist! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/17 "2006-08-15T13:29:46Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I personally notice the cops affecting me instantly. The second I notice them, they affect me in a rather dramatic manner. Men tend to notice cops because men are more likely to have lead foot, and cops probably notice men more because of this. As a man, I’d have to say there’s a noticeable difference instantly whenever I’m in the vicinity of cops, except when the cop is a friend of mine. I have a few cop friends. > > LOL Sorry, I couldn’t resist! 😃 that was a whole lot of useless information, Wise and Powerful Wizard of Oz… ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lam-s-cop-output/562/18 "2009-03-09T14:42:01Z")
_bump_ good thread.