# Layering or Mixing? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 19, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814 "2009-07-19T07:53:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/1 "2009-07-19T07:53:29Z")
Ill start of with either ammo, IJ, or Tuth as a base, and then Layer it with Androstenol and/or Mx200 Or Ill mix ammo/spaceland, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)/Mx200, Ij/spaceland, Ij/Mx200, ect ect? WHich do you believe is better? and why? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/2 "2009-07-19T08:17:10Z")
Not sure what [MX200](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx200/) does as far as effects go as I’ve never tried it. However, I’d go with IJ and Spaceland (my fave.) AMMO and Spaceland will probably be too diluted, reason why I think so is because AMMO already has Alpha Androstenol and Spaceland is 50 mcg of Alpha Androstenol per spray! So it’ll probably buffer the -none in AMMO depending on how much Spaceland you spray on, unless you spray on a good amount of AMMO and less of Spaceland. So you might have to mess around with different dosages of AMMO and Spaceland until you find a good amount of the two where they will work well with each other. Might work out though! > [@psylocybin](#): > > Ill start of with either ammo, IJ, or Tuth as a base, and then Layer it with Androstenol and/or Mx200 > > Or > > Ill mix ammo/spaceland, Ammo/Mx200, Ij/spaceland, Ij/Mx200, ect ect? > > WHich do you believe is better? and why? ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/3 "2009-07-19T08:23:46Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Not sure what MX200 does as far as effects go as I’ve never tried it. However, I’d go with IJ and Spaceland (my fave.) AMMO and Spaceland will probably be too diluted, reason why I think so is because AMMO already has Alpha Androstenol and Spaceland is 50 mcg of Alpha Androstenol per spray! So it’ll probably buffer the -none in AMMO depending on how much Spaceland you spray on, unless you spray on a good amount of AMMO and less of Spaceland. So you might have to mess around with different dosages of AMMO and Spaceland until you find a good amount of the two where they will work well with each other. Might work out though! Yeahh I cant wait to try Ij and spaceland It sounds great. So you’re saying that ammo and spaceland might become too diluted in terms of none? What if i used 2x ammo? Or should I stick with 1x ammo and two bottles of instant Jerk? I’m buying spaceland A) to get high 😛 B) to buffer the Ammo, TUTH and Jerk that I’m buying. In terms of ammounts? How much of Jerk and spaceland do you usually use? and wheres your favorite place to apply jerk? and do you use any covers? OH and mcg/spray would be helpfull 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/4 "2009-07-19T08:35:26Z")
No, double strength AMMO and Spaceland would work. You just probably have to watch closely for what kind of effects you’re getting with that combo, for example I think probably (_for me_) 3 sprays of heavy AMMO and two sprays of Spaceland may work. I could probably get away with maybe even 4 sprays of AMMO with just two sprays of Spaceland. So if I’m not mistaken that’ll be 20 mcg of -none, I usually wear two sprays of IJ with two sprays of Spaceland and if I’m not mistaken one spray of IJ is 15 mcg of -none. Basically just mess around until you see good results that work for you, but yes there’s nothing wrong with AMMO and Spaceland. Spaceland smells like bong water at first, but to me it now smells like pine trees after you get used to it. I actually like the smell, so I suggest you spray Spaceland first then everything else afterwards to hide its smell (if you don’t like it.) As far as to where I spray IJ (and everything else,) I usually always just use my neck. Front, sides, and back. Your chest is also a good spot, then just cover it with any cologne of your choice after you can’t see the liquid of the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) you sprayed on yourself. I don’t think you have to do this, but just to possibly avoid the cologne mixing with the liquid state of your IJ for example. > [@psylocybin](#): > > Yeahh I cant wait to try Ij and spaceland It sounds great. So you’re saying that ammo and spaceland might become too diluted in terms of none? What if i used 2x ammo? Or should I stick with 1x ammo and two bottles of instant Jerk? I’m buying spaceland A) to get high 😛 B) to buffer the Ammo, TUTH and Jerk that I’m buying. In terms of ammounts? How much of Jerk and spaceland do you usually use? and wheres your favorite place to apply jerk? and do you use any covers? OH and mcg/spray would be helpfull 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/5 "2009-07-19T14:36:18Z")
> [@](#): > > **Layering or Mixing?** Always go with layering of the consumer and experimental products. Mixing in the same bottle will just screw them up. If your looking to mix use the single molecules. Here is why… > [@](#): > > Ill mix ammo/spaceland, Ammo/Mx200, Ij/spaceland, Ij/Mx200, ect ect? ammo and spaceland both have anol in them. You can throw the ratio off of anol rendering the other two molecules useless by softening them to much. If you layer you haven’t ruined anything and you don’t waste perfectly good expensive mones. Now if you use this combo layered alot and it works for you and your sure of your ratios then you can consider “mixing”. Just realize once mixed you take a lot of the versatility away from the product. Your stuck with that one mix. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/6 "2009-07-19T23:12:18Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Spaceland smells like bong water LOL. i know a kid who drank bong water. ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/7 "2009-07-19T23:16:12Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Always go with layering of the consumer and experimental products. Mixing in the same bottle will just screw them up. If your looking to mix use the single molecules. > > Here is why… > > ammo and spaceland both have anol in them. You can throw the ratio off of anol rendering the other two molecules useless by softening them to much. If you layer you haven’t ruined anything and you don’t waste perfectly good expensive mones. Now if you use this combo layered alot and it works for you and your sure of your ratios then you can consider “mixing”. Just realize once mixed you take a lot of the versatility away from the product. Your stuck with that one mix. > > Tisha Yess very true. One more thing. When layering pheros with cologne, Do you prefer putting the cologne on so it mixes with the still “wet” pheros. or do you wait till after its dry? Since cologne usually has its own diffusers, letting it mix on your skin with liquid pheros is good yea? ---
**Author:** ![reishi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reishi/32/411_2.png) [@reishi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reishi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/8 "2009-07-19T23:31:37Z")
> [@psylocybin](#): > > LOL. i know a kid who drank bong water. I used to drink bong water… ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/9 "2009-07-19T23:36:49Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Not sure what MX200 does as far as effects go as I’ve never tried it. However, I’d go with IJ and Spaceland (my fave.) AMMO and Spaceland will probably be too diluted, reason why I think so is because AMMO already has Alpha Androstenol and Spaceland is 50 mcg of Alpha Androstenol per spray! So it’ll probably buffer the -none in AMMO depending on how much Spaceland you spray on, unless you spray on a good amount of AMMO and less of Spaceland. So you might have to mess around with different dosages of AMMO and Spaceland until you find a good amount of the two where they will work well with each other. Might work out though! I’m always amazed at how much anone you can wear. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/10 "2009-07-19T23:46:49Z")
That depends. If I dont like the smell of the mone product wait for dry down. This helps prevents bleed threw of the underlying scent. If you like the scent then I will apply right away. Pheromonally I havnt found it makes a difference in results though. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/11 "2009-07-19T23:54:05Z")
LOL, I know it’s crazy. But really it’s all in the buffer. Well, in my case my good friend Alpha Androstenol. But Beta Androstenol and Androsterone also are good buffers in their own right. > [@WildFlower](#): > > I’m always amazed at how much anone you can wear. ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/12 "2009-07-20T01:27:23Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > LOL, I know it’s crazy. But really it’s all in the buffer. Well, in my case my good friend Alpha Androstenol. But Beta Androstenol and Androsterone also are good buffers in their own right. But you don’t just use them to buffer your none right? Cause then you might as well use less none so that there was no need to buffer in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/layering-or-mixing/30814/13 "2009-07-20T01:45:31Z")
No, it’s very important not just to buffer -none but also to make you approachable. Androstenone alone is OK, but not all girls like its effects and/or some girls find it more stimulating when they’re in a certain time of their cycle (or was it ovulating?) Not sure, something along those lines so the addition of Alpha Androstenol makes it more welcoming than just -none alone. Don’t get me wrong though, -none is still the number one for attraction but alone it can be hard to make it work and/or seem less intimidating/unapproachable. > [@psylocybin](#): > > But you don’t just use them to buffer your none right? Cause then you might as well use less none so that there was no need to buffer in the first place.