# Learnings of a Twisted Ostrich - Phase 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [November 15, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150 "2010-11-15T21:29:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/1 "2010-11-15T21:29:53Z")
Hello Everyone, Let me first start by stating that I have been testing for quite some time and have now entered my second phase of testing. Most of my initial tests prior to this Journal focused on social proof that what I was using had some effect. I was fine tuning how some of the different essential punitive affected myself and those around me. This was done primarily for gaining attention and or to gain benefit in some way. I’ve discovered over the past few years, you must put on your best clothing, your best smile, and your best intents if you want to survive. Products from this site is an extra element to achieve this. What I have learned so far…. Congruency in everyday life is the most important social step one can take. Besides using products from the site and being congruent with your scents signature. Congruency with how you want to be and live is essential. I believe that your own personal scent reflects your own biological predisposition along with your own emotional and dietary influences. That’s why someone for example could have great social or business success on one day when they are feeling ‘on’ and have terrible results on another day when not feeling it. On those days of feeling on, they have essentially maximized there biological output and have it in sync emotionally. There are many more building blocks to that success which start with your own thoughts and diet. Those two combined influence your hormones, immune systems, thyroid and other glands which then build a cycle. This cycle affects your decision make up, pheromone output, influence on others etc. I believe that while your body may or may not be good at creating specific elements of your signature, your emotions and lifestyle can change it by some degree. If you were not to take direction on these variables, that’s where your natural predisposition to personality and pheromone output would lock in. Even if you were to be the healthiest person with your signature at its strongest, it’s still reinforcing your biological destiny. Congruency with who you want to be is key. When you know who you want to be in life, have a direction, you can set that path by aligning all the variables of your lifestyle. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), when used correctly from this site I believe can alter that cycle for you. They essentially send signals to your own body to change behavior to a manner that’s different from your current cycle. Rather then changing your own lifestyle variables, the pheromones are the catalyst for the change. I will reserve this post for more on specific results on different usage which I will update when I have time. For the time being I am a adult male in mid twenties, Caucasian, living in North America ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/2 "2010-11-15T22:26:10Z")
This sounds promising. Good luck with your journal 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/3 "2011-01-28T02:12:33Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > This sounds promising. Good luck with your journal 🙂 Thanks Bolkie 😛 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2011, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/4 "2011-01-28T02:15:45Z")
So I had a number of things tieing me down in the past months, alot of bad shit but good lesions learned. I honestly feel like I don’t live life with as much conviction as I used to, but maybe I can get past that. I figured, a good time to start writing and see if I can get that sparkle back. So I have a bunch of reports saved up 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/5 "2011-01-28T02:32:27Z")
**Workplace test 1** **Test ingredients** A314 2x [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) 2.5mcg x2 P81 10mcg x1 **Applied** 30min before contact with male subject difference in behavior noticed immediately **Situation** My boss was really angry from the day before to the point of wanting to fire me. I know the effects of this mix brings an intimidating respect vibe but never the chance to test under abnormal conditions (ie. threat) **Result** First off let me describe my boss, he is a straight to the point no bullshit kind of guy but can be pig headed and arrogant. When I came into the office I was expecting him to give me shit after receiving his messages the night before saying he was going to fire me etc. Instead I found him cowering. He showed this by shifting blame to my associate and not bringing up any consequences. His body language and verbal gestures were indicating that he was standing down. My own behavior was congruent with my mix, I was giving a don’t mess with me look as I don’t have the time. All in all, this workplace mix shows its value once again not only to get respect but to avoid conflict. If this was to be a normal day I would replace the P81 with something more social such as instant shine, Bnol, or P95 depending on what I felt would be usefull for the day. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2011, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/6 "2011-01-28T02:52:58Z")
**Social test 1** **Test ingredients - Dual test on 2 different nights** Subject #1 - european decent 27 years old TAF 10mcg x1 p75 2.5mcg x2 p86 10mcg x2 p96 10mcg x1 p83 10mcg x2 p74 10mcg x2 Subject #2 - myself Same mix but replaced the [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) with 10mcg of none **Applied** 45min before arriving at bar/dance floor difference in behavior noticed after 10min in one location **Situation** My intent was to test the effectiveness of a social mix for someone who is intolerant of using none. In my mix I used none, and my friend who can’t stand using none had the same mix but using P75. I tried this mix on two different occasions with my friend. **Result** Feedback from my friend reviled he didn’t have much self effects from the mix, at the same time I didn’t really tell him what to expect. I did notice that he was in a better mood then usual. He also commented that even though many of the people stayed in their own company on both occasions, he did get alot of attention from women around him. This was mostly in the 19-23 age range. He isn’t the type to take action, so maybe future mixes with him may have ingredients to help with approach anxiety. I didn’t seem to get as much attention as he claimed but toward the end of the first night I was talking to a girl and got her number. For the most part, there was good looking people in both occasions but not really my type. This mix didn’t bring good results for myself but I believe it was a success for my friend. Perhaps the ingredients go better with P75 as opposed to none, none needs more buffers, or its just too young a crowd to appreciate the none hehe ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/7 "2011-02-08T15:56:21Z")
**Social test 2** **Test ingredients – Adding P96** TAF 10mcg x2 NONE 2.5mcg x3 Bnol 10mcg x2 P74 10mcg x1 P86 20mcg x3 [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) 10mcg x2 P96 10mcg x3 **Applied** 45min before arriving at bar/dance floor difference in behavior noticed within 10min in one location **Situation** I have used P96 on a few occasions to get the feel for it alone without much to comment on except for a smooth or more lighter feeling. I decided to wear it as apart of a social mix at a place I commonly visit. **Result** The night ended up being abit snowy so the turnout of people at the place was less then usual. Some of the bar areas had half the amount of people congregating while the dance floor had people spaced out in their groups with ample walking space. The ‘social atmosphere’ where people casually talk wasn’t present this night. I was feeling very light and floaty, like a more graceful effect of spaceland but still able to focus. _This could have been the combined effect of p86 with the p96. I would say p86 does to the visual side as p96 does to the emotional state, somewhat airbrushed or more pleasurable._ An odd occurrence that night is that women kept bumping into me. These were women on the dance floor that had inward focuses to their respective groups then would stray away to bump into me. They were most likely interested in me, but the lack of social environment didn’t enable them to approach me. This could have also been from the P83 combined in the mix. Besides this, the night didn’t hold anything spectacular… P96 will have more tests in the future. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/8 "2011-02-15T20:50:27Z")
**Social test 3** **Test ingredients** Mx301 x3 **Applied** 10min before arriving at parties difference in behavior noticed Immediately **Situation** On 3 separate nights I got to try out an old favorite of mine in different cities known for student parting. **Result** Each night started with me having a feeling of an alpha male. Similar to A314 but not feeling like a million $$ and slightly more outgoing. On the first night I thought it could just be my mood, but the other nights had the same behavior. Walking around with slower mannerisms, being observant, not someone you would want to cross paths with. Long story short the first night I was very drunk. Many people I would bump into would profusely apologize. Many different conversations came up to different younger university women but I didn’t follow through. The end of the night I ended up huddling with an attractive girl to keep warm and somehow ended up holding her feet? Strange crossing of social barriers. Second night in a different city that was more ‘hick’ I ended up in a few different house parties then eventually at a bar. This time I had friends that got too drunk. But the same self effects played true and you could see everyone around tread us with respect. In this party I was invited by a friend who is regarded as a trouble maker, there were many circumstances where he acted out stealing beer and giving it to me to drink. Other people would see this but couldn’t get them selves to confront us. Instead they gave us more respect, perhaps out of fear? The final stop was at a bar/dance floor where immediately upon entering the dance floor women were grabbing me and grinding on me. I only had 15min of this as I had to go take care of a friend who was getting kicked out for barfing too much. Was still getting respect hits from party previous party goes that showed up. Definitely want to check out this place again to follow up… Third night was with the same company but totally different scenario. We were invited to a huge house party of +300 people that seemed to be a house purchased for partying. This party could be described as drunken chaos. Many interactions with woman, and again alpha male status. There were times where my friend would be stealing beer and then having a toast with the guy he stole it from just as he was saying “if I find the guy that taking my beer I’m going to brake him” meanwhile were saying cheers to that! With the exact same beer that no one else had at the party. Nobody dared cause trouble with us, and the more chaos our group was involved with the more respect hits we would get. The end of the night came with me hooking up with some girl back at someone’s place who she was dating, but we were fooling around in the back room. It was a quick encounter though. I wouldn’t say these three nights are not what I typicaly seek out, but more like a check mark. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/9 "2011-02-18T19:11:39Z")
**Social test 4 - _results from 1-10 = 7_** **Test ingredients** P75 @2.5mcg 2x P83 @10mcg 3x TAF @10mcg 1x MX297 2x - 2 hours later **Applied** 10min before entering a university bar then mx297 just as I was entering another bar/dancefloor. difference in behavior noticed Immediately. **Situation** Out for the night with 3 close guy friends, 2 of them are naturals with women where the other is introverted and doesn’t go out of his way much for that. **Result** Before leaving my house some female company that lives there commented that I don’t smell like my usual cologne (usually Neroli) Its fascinating that the pheromones change this basic smells perception so much! Said I smelled like a wild bison. It must have been the P75 then possibly having the TAF amplifying it? In any case this simple mix really amplified the raw masculinity. The first bar was a new one I have yet to visit but I didn’t really warm up to. Surprisingly enough the only friend that found anything interesting there was my introverted friend after some coxing. We left this place, and went to my fav. place not so far away after dropping off a Friend that needed to work. This was last call so we actually just chilled outside. I applied 2x of mx297. Low and behold a good looking girl white and brunette, prity tall, walks out and starts wanting to keep warm with me. After some talking and her going back and forth from me and friends (she kept coming back to me) she insisted I get her number. At this point we found her friends were smoking hot, and they were all invited to be driving home by us lol. Unfortunately we didn’t find any after parties, its still winter here so not so much happening for that but definitely could have happened. We dropped them off, and over the next two days we were txting each other, she called me a few times which was very surprising. I have another report in which I met up with her again. Very suspicious that she is BI at this point too so stay tuned. At this point I’m recruiting as many people as I can for summer cottage parties, to find good company as opposed to dating. I couldn’t stand to be in a relationship right now as I’m not sure where my heart is unfortunately. So yes, Mx297 to me is like a social vip mix or exemplifying the tv show “friends” it even works outside! I’m on my second mx bottle for this now, and plan to use it abit more. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/10 "2011-03-05T00:42:32Z")
HA! I finally figured out what to do, but you’ll notice you have two journals again. Just let me know what you would like to label them again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/11 "2011-03-06T19:37:39Z")
Thanks Steve, I was really feeling down in the dumps lately. I appreciate you were able to look into this. I was thinking to myself, hmm should I make another Journal? Didn’t really have the momentum for that, but this gives me a little kick. The title seems good! > [@Steve](#): > > HA! I finally figured out what to do, but you’ll notice you have two journals again. Just let me know what you would like to label them again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/12 "2011-03-14T22:36:55Z")
I’m Back! Still alive yey lol. I’ve been really sick with something similar to the flu but worse for the past few weeks. I figure my body got really run down from all the trauma I’ve been though the past few months. Most likely my body releasing stress. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/13 "2011-03-14T23:11:13Z")
**Social test 4 - _results from 1-10 = 9_** **Test ingredients** P86 @20mcg 2X P75 @2.5mcg 2x MEO@25mcg 2x [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) @10mcg 2x IG @3x **Applied** 30min before going to the first venue then entering another venue 1hour later **Situation** Out for the night with 2 close guy friends, 1 of them are naturals with women where the other is introverted and doesn’t go out of his way much for that. My intent here was to see if I could catch attention without using none. **Result** before leaving my house some female company that lives there commented that I smell much better then usual. She was the one that commented that I smell like a wild bison before when I tested P75 and TAF together. Was a good sign. The first place we went had a sparse turn out but cheap drinks, so we spent a half an hour there. I was feeling a bit more focused then what I had been the past while, a bit more in tune with my emotions as opposed to letting them run wild or be upset. At the second venue there were much more people and better atmosphere. This was now an hour after application. Within 10min of walking around to see what was at this place I was molested by a white brunette. No talking, just animalistic making out. This lasted for 2 hours. My friends were trying to record it as they never seen something this intense happen, but it was too dark. The main take away from this is that I didn’t instigate any of this and either I was looking really good or something else I was using was very attractive. She looked like a normal down to earth girl, didn’t look desperate for attention or anything but good looking. At the end of the night she insisted I have her number and since then she continues to txt and call me. I haven’t followed up as I haven’t felt up to it, but she is being persistent. I’ll probably follow up with this at somepoint and try using abit less but simmiler mix. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/14 "2011-03-14T23:29:03Z")
**So here is a little bit of a ramble, I’ve been thinking to myself a lot of different things in the past while and re examining where I stand.** **Since I’ve joined this site I’ve grown a lot in self confidence, emotional intelligence, and physically. When I was younger I was introverted and more or less a nerd. I’ve come along way since then. I’ve grown to be a bit more attractive and less awkward in communicating.** **This led me to ask myself if it’s even valid to test, that maybe its my own natural charm that can now draw people to me. I’ve talked to women before that would ask later “why me? Your so hot why would you talk to me?” Instances like this have led me to believe that maybe women are intimidated by me initially. It seems that the only ones that have had any long term desires with me are over confident, very assertive and or go after what they want. The rest don’t feel worthy or maybe don’t see it as practical to talk to someone on a different level as what they feel. So it’s possible that my natural appeal may cause others to naturally gravitate to me, or avoident? But at the same time I have friends that have this same appeal and they don’t run into the behavior that I do from strangers. If anything what I may want to test are mixes that comfort and invite others to talk to balance out the sex appeal which may be initially intimidating.** ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/15 "2011-03-15T00:08:02Z")
**Social test 5 - _results from 1-10 = 8_** **Test ingredients** IG 3x P95 @10mcg 2x **Applied** 30min before arriving at friends condo **Situation** Went to a poker night, only guys present. First round was 5 of us and second round was 8 people (3 pros added). **Result** I’ve always suspected that P95 had TAA qualities to it as whenever I use it I find it’s pretty uplifting, I still need to compare it with [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and if there is a social aspect. But for this mix I felt the confidence that IG usually gives me to be somewhat amplified. No smiles, nobody could read me. The first round I was on top for most of the game, it was presumed I was going to win but I got a lot of ribbing from everyone. They weren’t used to seeing me with this much self control and intuition. A lot of this round was close friends I hadn’t seen for 7 months. Back in the day sometimes I’d be the butt of some jokes, but on this day nothing could phase me. By the end of the first round everyone was in awe that I could win at poker. This got the pro’s who were watching interested. In the second round I didn’t have many good hands for the first half, I was down to my last few chips. At this point everyone thought I was a fluke and when I started betting that I must be bluffing. It played out perfectly as after that point I just kept winning hands over and over. I never lost my cool and was reading everyone’s expressions and betting styles. Know when to holdem and when to foldem. I ended up winning the second round too. Comments of astonishment followed such as “wow your crazy” and “he’s a fish, watch out!!” I can be lucky, but being an outright winner isn’t my trademark and was very surprising. I’m usually the underdog that almost wins hehe. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/16 "2011-03-16T17:05:19Z")
Just a little bit of self reflection on what I learned today. Your outer self is the reflection of the accumulation within. All of these life experiences are absorbed by the subconscious one way or the other, passes through your own filters and perception and then manufest themselves into your outer self such as preferences, desires and actions. How you feel about yourself materializes into the opportunities and people that you attract to yourself. If your feeling like a 2, then the situations and interactions around you will be on that same level (unless a little bit of luck comes up). What happens to you can be perceived as positive or negative, either one can be applied. But finding the positive in the situations that arise allow for you to grow from these events which in actuality bring positive to the situation. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/17 "2011-03-16T17:43:47Z")
> [@TwistedOstrich](#): > > Just a little bit of self reflection on what I learned today. > > Your outer self is the reflection of the accumulation within. All of these life experiences are absorbed by the subconscious one way or the other, passes through your own filters and perception and then manufest themselves into your outer self such as preferences, desires and actions. > > How you feel about yourself materializes into the opportunities and people that you attract to yourself. If your feeling like a 2, then the situations and interactions around you will be on that same level (unless a little bit of luck comes up). > > What happens to you can be perceived as positive or negative, either one can be applied. But finding the positive in the situations that arise allow for you to grow from these events which in actuality bring positive to the situation. You my friend, are right on target. It cannot be said any better. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/18 "2011-03-17T06:43:37Z")
I was asked to describe how I feel, it reminded me of something I had been reading recently. Felt like sharing, some may also associate with. Daughter of Duality. How well you perform your side of our dual nature… how perfectly dark, veiled and shadowed you have become. Even in the common man you hide so well, he does not know how you have lulled him into an dimuitive self. You have seduced him and created in him an impossible muse… he is idolzing, he is addicted… his life force leaves him ship wrecked on the banks of those sandy ocean tides from whence came. ~Ulyssess after he almost suffered a horrbile fate from Circe. Also a little bit of Irish for St. Patric’s day from James Joyce ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/19 "2011-03-18T00:14:29Z")
Tonight I plan on testing a simmiler mix to the great success of the last mix but with a little less in it. See where it goes. P86 @20mcg 1x [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) @2.5mcg 1x MEO@25mcg 1x P83 @10mcg 1x [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) @3x ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/20 "2011-03-18T19:42:00Z")
I’ll briefly mention that this mix didn’t hold any magic, no special attention. Ran into some women I knew, still nothing. So it would seem if your using these in your mix there is a minimum you need to use to get results. One comment though, it was St. Patric’s and it seemed everyone there was more apprehensive then usual. It seemed like a crowd of people that don’t normally go out and felt defensive. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150.md?page=2)