# Learnings of a Twisted Ostrich - Phase 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [November 15, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150 "2010-11-15T21:29:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/61 "2011-07-09T18:06:22Z")
I’m off to sort out some problems at my gym, going to bring some MX399… ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/62 "2011-07-09T21:20:54Z")
> [@TwistedOstrich](#): > > I’m off to sort out some problems at my gym, going to bring some MX399… I’ll comment very informally here about my first impressions of MX399, I knew very little about it other then that John said that it might be useful for suggesting/commanding people and that its not for attraction. So I put it on just before going to the gym to sort out an administrative issue, 2x and a little TAA. I was getting ready to go to the gym and tear some heads off, they hadn’t put my membership through so whenever I go to any gym in the country they give me hassles and think I’m suspicious. So I was going to their head office, ready to do battle. Dressed in all white in awesome clothing, I looked like I meant business. I put on MX399 and I lost my focus. 10min after applying I had to go to the bank to deal with money and all I could think of while being at the bank was to avoid conflict, get in and get out. Before getting to the gym I felt shaky, and I had no idea why. I’m usually super confident when dealing with business matters. I literally started to feel weak and submissive. I went in and quietly asked them to help sort out the issue and barley spoke a word. They said they would look into it. So I started to work out and I felt a bit more light headed. I started thinking to myself that I was starting to feel like P126. Which would make sense if you were trying to make a mix that reduces inhibitions. But it was effecting myself as opposed to other people. Its approx 3 hours later and I’m feeling better now. If I try this mix again I’m putting some A314 under my nose! Or maybe I’d put it on someone else if they wanted me to dominate them hehe.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/63 "2011-07-09T21:26:03Z")
Next week I’m going to start putting the IG test pack into my respect mix for work opposed to straight rone. I also have some P95 to compare, seems like one of the 3 has some in it. I love P95, its almost addictive… ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/64 "2011-07-09T21:51:45Z")
I´m looking forward to hear more about MX399 ! Sounds like a really strong mix and concerning that you´re experiencin such extreme self effects … it must be something weapon like once you´ve become familiar with the self effects .. or once you don´t run through self effects … Just thrown one into my cart for the next order ! Pago ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/65 "2011-07-11T23:11:03Z")
Great first MX399 run. Appreciate your take on it ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/66 "2011-07-12T01:50:31Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Great first MX399 run. Appreciate your take on it Its ridiculous 😮 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/67 "2011-07-13T03:47:54Z")
Regarding MX402, I put it in place of my Rone today for my work mix. Everything the same as I’ve reported before for my work mix, but using MX402. Self effects, I found I got the pleasurable feeling around my sinuses again like when I use P95. Although subtler, as if its 5mcg per spray. Lasted 2 hours. There is a synergy that I found that when I use P90 and Rone together I have a business focus and a big drive to get things done. Because I was enjoying the P95 sensation I didn’t have much focus today. And now that I think about it, I wonder if the stuff is like an A1 for women? If I felt this way when a women was around me I would think, whoa this chicks got some magic going on. I had a business meeting today with two gentlemen from a creative agency that wanted to do some marketing with us. They respected me even though I had just came from a photoshoot and was wearing our companies T-shirt (didn’t look super professional). Ideas flowed easily and had mutual respect for ideas, good synergy as oposed to me falling asleep to a sales pitch. I also discussed the outcome of the meeting and tasks for the week with the woman from logistics. All very smoothly. No opposition to ideas or pace. Mix seemed to last about 4 hours, whereas my usual business mix I can feel still pushing me at 6-7 hour mark. I will try again with this to see if I get the same outcome. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/68 "2011-07-21T02:50:44Z")
So I had another 2x of MX393 from the UF mix combined with 2x of Anol @ 10mcg and 2x of TAA @ 10mcg, going with friends that were staying over at my place to a bar When first spraying the MX on I got a big whurh from it which I notice from the UF pack, I don’t get this anymore from anything else. I think there’s a lot of stuff in these MX’s The self effects weren’t very noticeable, I was a bit focused on getting to where we were going but other then that nothing to note of. My friends were visiting me and they started acting out as soon as I had put it on. Just like the last time at my cottage they started challenging me even to the point of making me feel very beta. We would be walking down the street and they would be trying to pick me up or jump on my back. Not good idea when you’ve been drinking, and not typical behavior from them. From that point and into the next day they had alot of jokes directed towards me that I kept having to refute. Instead of being confident and smooth, I would fight back like a high schooler would in a wounded emotional way. I’m seeing a trend here with this one. When I was at the bar I did speak to some women that were interested in talking to me, one mentioning I smell really good. But didn’t notice anyone acting out of the ordinary in this respect. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/69 "2011-07-27T00:43:41Z")
So its exciting that AD is getting back into using A1, Mharris is smiling down on us. I was on the same page, I figured its time I graduated into mixing and I figured I would play with A1 since its was only previously available to anyone who could mix and dilute. Also how can you judge the new mx thats out if you haven’t tried A1 to begin with? I would have jumped into using A1 last year to save my relationship.. probably would have avoided some beatings and custom paint job on my car but you live and learn. I’ve always been fascinated with the chemistry of one of my buddies from elementry school. He grew up with very little skill in talking to women, but or some reason women gravitate towards him. I’ve been able to isolate that they are women interested in something other then none and arone. The ones into those two are usually more interested in being with me and are immune from him. So I’m thinking hes putting out some mix that includes A1 naturally, or some sort of powerful attractant in a passive comforting way. He of course abuses it 🙄 I think I’d be more respectful… I’ll try ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/70 "2011-07-27T01:11:54Z")
My first time using A1 is ridiculous, completely unintended… but most likely what a lot of people here look for. I figured to test the new A1 replacement MX412 you should have experience with the original So I have a mix, I used 4 sprays to accomplish this A1 25mcg MEO 40mcg TAA 20mcg Anol 30mcg Bnol 30mcg So I went to a keg party for my cousins birthday Tons of people there, mostly 19-22. So I’m abit older, I’m not so much into the young ones and for the most part I made this mix to chill relax and make friends. So I was drinking, and some chick whose trying to look younger comes and starts talking to me. Shes crazy uninhibited, but has some level of being grounded. I find out her story, she has a 13 year old kid.. stabbed her boyfriend with a fork, and is a 33 year old stripper. Yes! I’m seeing a trend here. So I’m too drunk at this point to connect with anyone else so I keep chilling with her. At one point I start talking about smell, she sniffs me with no comment I sniff her and I smell a familiar sorta minty smell, I swear its a female [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) I’ve picked up in commercial perfumes. I can’t smell, but I like whatever it is 😃 So the 2 kegs run out, and me and the chick are sitting in the birthday boys room because they were pouring random people Yeager there… then the extra booz ran out so we were sitting there with nothing to do but chatt, my buddy at this point who I haven’t seen in 6 years because he has a screw loose but randomly made friends again join us. I saw a bottle of captain Morgans beside the bed, we drank the little bit left that was left. The girls feet were by me now, so I started rubbing them. My buddy who was beside her then bulled her other leg effectively spreading her legs. Essentially at this point she was getting off from the foot message from under her mini skirt. Completely visible. Made a mess of the chair sort of deal… There was alot of people at the party that couldn’t handle this for one reason or another so soon my cousin came in and said we all got to go to the bar now since the booz is done… So we leave and her friend grabs her and sticks her in a cab. Ridiculous reaction though, I’ve never seen something like this in such a short period of time. I’m good but I didn’t think that good lol 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/71 "2011-07-27T22:35:15Z")
There’s a foot fetish thing yah know? As strange as it is, some people enjoy that sort of thing. LoLz! I wonder if you are going to be able to repeat this another time or two just for consistency sakes…of course 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/72 "2011-07-28T00:35:27Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > There’s a foot fetish thing yah know? As strange as it is, some people enjoy that sort of thing. LoLz! > > I wonder if you are going to be able to repeat this another time or two just for consistency sakes…of course 😉 HA! you never know… that or a fetish for multiple guys, buddy was in the room too. Seems like alot of people want me to try this with just A1 so maybe I’ll see if an opportunity comes up, but my goal wasn’t to hook up LOL. But like I was saying, its more interesting to add it to established mixes of my own and see how it changes them. A1 on its own has yet so show anything really, I should note.:o ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/73 "2011-07-29T04:14:22Z")
Tempt fate… and fate will tempt you ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/74 "2011-08-02T20:24:02Z")
And you’re going to just leave us with that? ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/75 "2011-08-04T03:18:06Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > And you’re going to just leave us with that? Lets say I take one action and the intended result doesn’t come to fruition. So I take another route for something else which is tempting fate as it would jeopardize any progress in the original intent. Fate then tempts me back by then presenting me with the opportunity for the original intent to succeed, making me choose. Seems to have been a theme in my life… whenever I accomplish something I’m tempted by the success of some other previous unaccomplishable feat. Just random recollections… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/76 "2011-08-10T22:58:55Z")
Remembering the best times 🙂 and worst times ☹ of my life.. Its almost as if I can’t have one without the other, yin and yang https://www.youtube.com/embed/PrHXvQRTa5M?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque At least neither of us got killed… ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/77 "2011-08-11T01:46:43Z")
Its amazing how apparent it become to me that society and or people in general are addicted to their own personalities and general being… Its amazing that if you can realize this you can gravitate towards other states of being and or evolve personality wise… This place and of course pheromones being another outlet or catalyst for change, or for those at some level searching for change. That could be the underlying theme for all of us here, some on different levels of awareness. When I was much younger I came to a point in my life in which I wasn’t pleased with my level of social development. I made it a life goal to always improve. I’ve come to realize that everything I focused on or had a goal of achieving gravitated towards me. For instance I wanted to be a better person, I became in many ways. I wanted to be more attractive, I continue to evolve in that direction. Different educations and jobs in different directions, I’ve had. I wanted a party girl, I had her. I wanted love and the most sensual girl ever, was with her too. I look at my friends and realize they are all a bit off center. Naturally my love interests were too, but mix love into these things and our emotions can get the best of us and get acting out behavior. And now in the past half year, its as if crazy is contagious and I’ve had a screw loose I’ve inherited from my resent past. When it comes down to it I notice I amplify my friends and friends perhaps amplify myself. We’ve become wild, much more so then when we were younger. Then I think to my self is this the direction I want to gravitate towards? Am I really experiencing life to the fullest if you keep reliving these experiences of wild living. Have I gotten myself addicted into a personality path… So I ask myself where do I want to be, can I be free from myself in this place I want to be… can I be happy there? Can I be at peace but have other needs fulfilled… Just my thoughts atm 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/78 "2011-08-11T16:22:39Z")
Brilliant! Simply brilliant!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/79 "2011-08-11T20:44:26Z")
> [@TwistedOstrich](#): > > I Can I be at peace but have other needs fulfilled… > > Just my thoughts atm 🙄 A post worth of TOTW and they are hard to find for me. I ask my self this question everyday. I’m married and have other needs as well… is it better to be happy but not fulfilled or should i realize in most cases not all needs can be fulfilled. I could always risk it all for completeness but is it worth it? ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/80 "2011-08-26T22:21:00Z")
So lately I have been kept busy finding a new place to live. All the students are coming back to this town at the end of the month and I wanted to get more exclusive living arrangements. (Was in a student house with cheap rent, but no students in the house for the summer). Was getting hard to find anything around here because so many students grabing everything. So it was stressful looking. I had finally lined up some pimped out condo when everything came down at work. My boss was waiting to see if theirs any return from his investment of time in me. The summer is very slow so the moment of truth would be in sept. But he heard I was committing myself to a place and I guess he did me a favor by confirming he wasn’t solid on keeping me. So I’m singing ohhhh I’m on my waaaAay! Just set me freeeeEee… Home sweeet hoooooome So I was in a shitty mood that day, worked on my resume, friends were bitching about things… ugh bad day But then a day after I get a call from a head hunter offering me 60% more pay to work for a much bigger company. Didn’t even put out my new resume yet. LOL so I’m laughing That’s whats keeping me busy, moving soon! But back to playing with things very soon. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/e/eb204ae1fcfc9837f1ec73e66d9308375d30bfbc.jpeg "ice cube - it was a good day (dirty+lyric)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rUn6pUDpEk) [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150.md?page=5)