# Learnings of a Twisted Ostrich - Phase 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [November 15, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150 "2010-11-15T21:29:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/81 "2011-08-30T18:03:23Z")
Got to love how that works out. I worked for a company and they were in a jam because some lady claimed she was passed over because she had a vagina (I got her job). They made me a scapegoat. I went from mgr of the year to demoted under her all in the course of a week. No performance reviews, no nothing! I put out my resume that day, and had a job with a HUGE increase living in the Caribbean all expenses paid a month later. The day I left the lady who complained about sexual discrimination parole officer came and arrested her for coming up dirty for drugs in the office in front of everyone. I laughed as I walked out the door and never looked back. Congratulations on the new job and house. Sounds like thing are working out OK for yah šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/82 "2011-08-31T22:59:25Z")
Poker night tonightā€¦ mmm what should I play with And on other mattersā€¦ lol, Iā€™m the happy guy in the bathtub [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/e/eb6108c783aa5695d8e70982dd07a4f07c9db381.jpeg "No Doubt - It's My Life (Edited)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvV498pyIM) ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/83 "2011-08-31T23:35:52Z")
God I love Gwen! ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/84 "2011-09-01T16:04:08Z")
So I went to a poker game and thought I would revisit MX399 **Intent** Last time I used MX399 @ 3x I felt very weak and conflict avoidant. I added some A314 under my none, P95 3x @10mcg by my neck and 1x [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) @ 2.5mcg to try and counteract the 1x of MX399 to the back of my neck **Application** I applied this all 15min before getting to the condo to play poker. I had to wait in the lobby for a little bit before I could go in. **Conditions** Everything was controlled, room temperature and no humidity **Self effects** I started to getting sentimental after 7min or so. Some background info; my heart is still hurt from my last relationship but I got the tears under control lately. Regardless, I got really sad even though I was there to have fun and was in good spirits before applying. I felt an underlying unsure ness or even shakiness in overall but meanwhile somewhat confident still in my head. It was very mixed! The P95 was giving my that smooth feeling again and slight euphoria in my nose but then right beside it was the unsure ness. Really interestingā€¦ **Results** In playing the poker game I didnā€™t have any special focus and from what I could tell others were not effected. **But one interesting dynamic is that to start 2 players went very aggressive which is not like there style, lost all there chips. Then for the rest of the game everyone was very conservative including the guy that had 3x chips from cleaning the other two out.** I could predict how others would play because everything they did would be done conservatively. Iā€™m thinking this mix amplified how the players normally play. The two in the beginning played as ā€œgo big or go homeā€ where as the others played it safe. This mix brought it out to the extreme. I still need to think of ways how to buffer this stuff so it doesnā€™t mess with my head! The first game it came down to me and two others and we lost out of an 8 man game. **Second game I won.** The self effects had worn off by then, would say about 3 hours later. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/85 "2011-09-01T16:25:55Z")
Happy Birthday E Lucky I donā€™t think the cops saw the cut marks down the side my head/faceā€¦ but there was too much blood to hide from concierge.. I hope you can find peace in your heart ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/86 "2011-09-06T18:54:32Z")
> [@TwistedOstrich](#): > > Happy Birthday E > > Lucky I donā€™t think the cops saw the cut marks down the side my head/faceā€¦ but there was too much blood to hide from concierge.. I hope you can find peace in your heart WOW! Just wow! So sorry you are apparently having the same issue you have previously written about. Sucks man, but I do hope you are OK and things work out. Youā€™re a great guy šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/87 "2011-09-06T23:03:17Z")
Didnā€™t mean for you to miss interpret, but it isnā€™t a new oneā€¦ was the last ones birthday. + got come court papers regarding her. I really did care for her, enough to stand up and try to set her life in the right direction. I donā€™t think anyone ever cared for her enough to try to get her some help, even if its at my own expense and the expence of the relationship. Just got too freekin crazy. I figure shes still lurking on here somewhere ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/88 "2011-09-07T15:52:30Z")
A bit of self reflection, one could see these as my own problems or positive qualities I need to manage betterā€¦ I have an urge to want to fix things A tendency to over commit myself Conflict avoidant ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/89 "2011-09-08T01:21:47Z")
I think Iā€™ll take out MX391 a bit more and see if it warrants me to investigate the new Project UF2. I was a late arrival in getting the first projectā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/90 "2011-09-08T23:58:25Z")
Well UF2 is officially sold out as a couple hours ago šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/91 "2011-09-09T06:29:47Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Well UF2 is officially sold out as a couple hours ago šŸ™‚ So it Has! Guess Iā€™ll jump on the train for the next phase šŸ˜› If you by chance one misses an opportunity, theirs always another oneā€¦ Just have to find it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/92 "2011-09-09T16:45:08Z")
True that šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/93 "2011-10-06T18:33:52Z")
So Iā€™ve been off trying to re-organize myself in the wake of having to change cities again and find work. In this time I was using MX391 whenever I can so that I could make a strong comparison with UF2 once its back in stock. I really find that anything strong with none doesnā€™t help me much, I think arone products hit my sweet spot with othersā€¦ unless weā€™re talking about women that are 30+ thats a different storyā€¦ The fun side to my story is, the media agency Iā€™ve been affiliated with off and on through my career and close friends with was doing alot of projects with my past employer. I introduced the two and managed those projects. Now my media agency friends looked at my performance at the company and realized I built so much trust with them they committed to over 25K in web expenses in a 4 month period. So now they want me to work with them managing their new sales department. In the end being the account manager for people like my old employer. lol, funny how things work. Anyways, meeting with more clients would let me test out more respect mixes while hopefully earning more money while at it. Time to dust off my precious A314 bottle šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/94 "2011-10-06T19:12:03Z")
So Iā€™ve been sitting in my house too long.. Friends wanted to cheer me up so they brought me out to a country bar/club the other day. I wouldnā€™t identify with country scene but it was the only place thats happening on a Tuesday. I put together a mix just to change things up abit, threw a few things in I havenā€™t had much time to play with and others Iā€™ve had curiosity with. The night got a bit crazy and it was on zero effort on my part. \*When I get this drunk it acts as a repellent, Iā€™m way to silly. So seeing that I was barley functional in these instances **there was -20% my effort and the 10% of the pheromone effort at work hereā€¦** Mix was Anol 2x @10mcg (communication) P95 2x @10mcg (Respect) P83 2x @10mcg (Inviting) P103 4x @10mcg (sexy) P75 1x @2.5mcg (Masculinity) First off the application was 30min before getting there. I got the usually plesent feeling in my sinuses from having P95 on (my aRone replacement). At the bar about 20min passed before different women were chatting with me. At this point memories are abit blurred but I can see from cell phone pictures and videos that I was talking to two girls early in the night. Later in the night one of the hottest girls in the place **decided to force themselves into my bbm messenger.** By the end of the night there is a video taken of myself lumbering onto the dancefloor which has 2-5 people on it. With a huge lack of coordination I sorta move around as if I was dancing. **Then 1 min later Iā€™m joined by another one of the hottest girls in the place** and we start animalisticly going at each other. I almost got kick out of the place because everyone else around were getting jealous. So Iā€™m told once closing me and my friends **stumbled into a taxi with the women I had first talked to** in the night who invited us to their house for more drinking. There are then videos of me being ultra annoying at their house while everyone is drinking. Then I woke up in the morning **with one of the chicks snuggled up against me on the bathroom floor** ā€¦ I donā€™t have sex when Iā€™m drunkā€¦ I put her in her bed and tried to sleep.. My friends woke me up 20min later saying we have to goā€¦ One of my friends had barfed everywhere Effects lasted 7 hours Range was 2-5 feet Some of the women were close to me and some not and in other cases they were interested when close then drawn to me from a distance too. I think this is all really funny, my intent for the night was to drinkā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/95 "2011-10-06T19:56:44Z")
Thatā€™s AWESOME! Congratulations šŸ˜ƒ. Its so true when you do things out of kindness, good things come right back to you. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/96 "2011-10-06T20:05:05Z")
And the drinking story sounds all to familiar. Look for videos now appearing of me in Nashville on Friday. I look possessed and very very drunk. At least I had a bunch of hotties around me. Youā€™ll have to find them on your own though. Way to revealing when Iā€™m slurring about Italians and what we got. Apparently I was willing to prove it and challenged anyone on Printers Alley to take me up on it. I drank for free that night and got lots of respect. I remember none of it but I swore off drinking the next day. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/97 "2011-11-06T08:58:55Z")
Another birthday, I tried to make it as low key as possible.. I always have to plan everything for my friends so on my birthday I try to plan as little as possibleā€¦ I say anyone who wants to drink with me, come out! Want to bring me somewhere, its all cool. Iā€™m drinking šŸ™‚ I put on 4x of P95 and 1X of p75 and everyone was challenging me. My friends had very strong beta behavior, meanwhile Iā€™ve noticed it coming out alot lately. Last year I was having death threats on my birthday, its cool not this year but I still miss her.. even though I have no idea how I could make that situation work. Got to live drama freeā€¦ stress can kill too ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/98 "2011-11-15T18:50:50Z")
So I was out and about the other night at a country bar. Was wearing 2x 5mcg Arone, 1x IH, 2x 10mcg TAA, and 2x 10mcg P103. Long story short, I got typical attention at the bar. Some conversations and interest but nothing outstanding. I walked down the street when leaving the place to get my coat from my car and saw another place that was happening. Talked to a girl out front that was there with her room mate. They were up for more partying at their place down the street. (I must have seemed quite trusting) So I drove down the street, at this point it was almost early morning and I had sobered up, maybe 4 beers over the night. Once getting out of the car and walking up to there house a cop pulls up to my car and calls me over. Says he was watching me and starts interrogating me about my night. Asking where was I drinking ect. ect. I would say I just picked up my friends from down the street. Finally he said, ā€œwell I bet if I get a Breathalyzer out you wouldnā€™t passā€¦ but Iā€™m going to save you $6000 in fines tonight and give you a warning. Donā€™t drive any more tonight!ā€ Wow, I didnā€™t even have to do a Breathalyzer. I joined my friends at the house and they were stunned that there wasnā€™t more drama then there was. Maybe 40 second ordeal at mostā€¦ Benefits to having a Arone mix on šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/99 "2011-11-15T23:03:59Z")
Wait so you werenā€™t drunk? Do you think you would have passed the breathalyzer? Sounds like harassment actually, especially when he said he was watching you. Pretty sure the law says they cannot watch someone in the hopes they will commit a crime. Sounds like entrapment. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/100 "2011-11-17T00:47:02Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Wait so you werenā€™t drunk? Do you think you would have passed the breathalyzer? Sounds like harassment actually, especially when he said he was watching you. Pretty sure the law says they cannot watch someone in the hopes they will commit a crime. Sounds like entrapment. I believe so, now that you mention it that could have been whats going on. He was trying to get me to admit to drinking and once couldnā€™t backed off quickly. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150.md?page=6)