# Learnings of a Twisted Ostrich **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [October 7, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076 "2009-10-07T17:28:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/1 "2009-10-07T17:28:35Z")
Welcome to my journal! Be sure to comment and say Hi I’m a 25 years old Caucasian living in Toronto Canada. Not blind in the traditional sense, but I was born without the sense of smell. \*\*I will be rearranging this page soon to be better organized!! **Objective #1** To further understand social dynamics. I noticed different friends you could consider naturals alway being the center of attention. Not saying anything special or any games. Walk into a room on the prowl and get women in a similar state. My goal is to reproduce that vibe on a consistent basis. Previously I started researching my signature by improving my own health, I suspected that it was pheromones that caused my friends to be this way. I had some success with this but only occasionally, it was as if some nights something flipped a switch and my own signature came alive. **Objective #2** Braking the friend barrier I’ve been told that once a girl puts you in the friend zone its virtually impossible to brake free. To me this was a challenge. I know someone who I wll call Lady Friend #1 who I was once intimate but recently was put into the friend zone, and not in a friendly way. My goal is to find the right mix that would reignite attraction and or put sparks back into a relationship. **At my disposal I have:** Instant shine 1X 30ml Alpha A314 30ml [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) 30ml Turn up the heat 30ml Instant Jerk to go Instant Openness to go - 1x v1.0 Instant Honesty to go - 1x v1.1 Instant Honesty to go - 2x v1.1 Instant Gentleman to go - 1x v1.0 Spaceland to go - batch #201 P75 30ml @ 2.5mcg P79 30ml @ 10mcg P80 30ml @ 10mcg P81 30ml @ 10mcg P83 30ml @ 10mcg P95 30ml @10mcg P102 30ml @ 10mcg P126 30ml @ 10mcg TAF 30ml @ 10mcg TAL 30ml @ 2.5mcg MEO-EST @30ml @ 25mcg MX200 Mx297 MX301 MX351 Mx353 **Journal Index (top post = newest entry)** _ **Individual testing phase** _ _[Test 9: Instant Gentlemen](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/13) - 3x IG_ _[Test 10: Instant Shine](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/14) - 4x IS_ [Test 13\*\*:\*\*](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/23)[First try with P126](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/23)- Motivating? [P126 Update](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/26) [P95](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/27) - first try [Test 19: MX353 at the Gym](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076) - 2x MX353 [Test 21: TAC self Test](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/41) _ **Soical Proof Testing Phase** (recomended mixes, ODing, see what works)_ [Test 18: Strip Club](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/32) - 2x MX353 [Test 17: Small bar clubs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/31) - 1x mx353, 2x P83, 1x P81, 1x P79, 1x TAL, 1x TAF [Test 16:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/29)[Dealing with sales people](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/29)3x IG, 2 1/2x spaceland [Test 15: Promoter frinds club](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/28) with #1 - 1x P83, 1x P75, 2x P79, 1x P80, 3x Meo-Est [Test 14: Haloween](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/25) with #1 - 2x p83, 2x TAF,2x P126, 2 drops of A314 [Test 12:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/22)[Welcome to the P’s](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/22)- 3x P83, 3 TAF, 3 P102 _[Test 11:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/21)_[Tuesday Halloween shopping](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/21)with #1 2x P83, 2x TAF, 2x P102 _[Test 8: Birthday Party](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/6), with lady friend #1 - 3x IS, 3x IG, 1x IJ, 1x A314 - spaceland midway_ _[Test 7: Friday meet up](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/6)with Lady Friend #1_\* - 3x IS, 3x IG, 1x TUTH, 1x A314\* _[Test 6: Party time at ‘home base’ club](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/6) - 3x IS, 2x IO, 1x TUTH, 1x A314_ _[Test 5: Strip Club](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/6)- 3x IS, 2x IO, 1x TUTH, 1x A314_ _[Test 4: Party time](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/6), with lady friend #1 - 2x IS, 2x IO, 2x TUTH, 1x A314_ _[Test 3: time to make it count](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/6), first exposure to lady friend #1 - 2x IG, 2x IH, 1/2x IJ, 1x A314_ _[Test 2: Getting used to the stuff](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/6) - 2x IH, 1x A314_ _[Test 1: Getting used to the stuff](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/initial-impressions-of-p74/2805/6) - 2X IS_ ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/2 "2009-10-07T17:53:58Z")
Here’s my first situation… On a side note, DHL just pulled up with a package. still thinking wow that’s fast. There’s a girl I have been seeing off and on for a few years. White, 23 years old. Extremely uninhibited, very finely attuned to smell and her sexuality. She is the one that made me realize that maybe smell is an important part of life experiences. Even though I don’t know it, I should take more account of it. I’ve been told of stories by her of situations that smelt like sex, and rarely people who she can only associate sex with because of there smell. So Ive been pushing off seeing her for a little bit, but I am going to see her in the next few days. I know roughly when she ovulates probably early next week. The best advice is to take it slow and see what she likes but given her background I’m thinking maybe start with one spray each of Instant shine, instant honesty, and maybe instant openness. But if all goes well add a -none product later? Or should I avoid -none stuff until I know for sure shes in the right mood/time of the month. Definitely thinking of throwing A314 into the first mix, with the possibility of throwing TUTH or IJ in later. Really curious about the effects on her and IJ, if it will have the same effect as she described before with other random people. Also excited to test Spaceland with another -none product, she is the type that likes to get lost in herself and the moment… **Currenty** I’m on my way to the mall to get my self accustom to IS, will report later. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/3 "2009-10-07T23:21:41Z")
**Test 1** : Getting used to the stuff **Application** 2 srays of IS, one to each side of the neck at Aprox 3:30pm **Locations:** went to the Gym, Tanning Salon, and the Mall, and dinner with family. **Observations:** Nothing truly out of the ordinary happened on my first outting at the gym, nobody was really in close proximity for a long period of time. Same with Tanning. At the mall, people did move out of my way anticiping that I was comming which usuly I need to say something. Again no long term exposure. Dinner with fmaily they commented that I smelt nice, when I asked like what I didnt get a reply. lol I will up the dossage nexttime. **Self effect:** Abit light headded for the day, but this could be typical. Will have to see if it persists. Currenty headding out with one of my ‘natural’ friends, maybe I’ll try out some of the A314. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/4 "2009-10-09T18:03:01Z")
**Test 2:** Getting used to the stuff **Application** One drop of A314 to along my jaw, two sprays of IH **Situation** Friend came over to scout out what’s happening localy **Result (self)** Felt sleepy still with slight runny nose, maybe fighting off a cold. Didn’t feel any impulsiveness to talk but did feel at peace. **Result** Had a conversation about life until 3:30am, we do this sometimes ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/5 "2009-10-09T18:26:46Z")
**Test 3:** time to make it count Meeting up with the girl in the first situation happened sooner then expected… This was to be just a warmup for the weekend. **Application-** 8pm One drop of A314 to along my jaw two sprays of IH to each hand and one to back of the head two sprays of IG, one to each side of my head 1/2 spray of IJ to my neck **Situation** Drove around with lady friend 1, met with lady friend 2, watched a movie **Result (self)** On the ball, alert, could just be excited to be trying something new **Result** #1 was more happy to see me, and made more of an effort to look at me when driving me around. Would frequently smile. When waiting for #2 to come out, fully positioned herself facing me in the car with complete open mannerisms, not common. Usually she tries to avoid giving me attention (long story). Conversation was as usual. #2 commented on me looking really good, both were very focused in talking to me as if competing for my attention. They made plans for us all to do something the next week without asking me. This was unusual for #1 who doesn’t like to make plans. The movie was somewhat uneventful, although #1 was more attentive and talkative. **Comments** Good results, excited to try ramping up –none with #1 and see if any reaction. Must try out space land soon too. **Bonus Round** Went for coffee with a close friend lives by #1 at 1:30am, no reaction from close friend. But Second friend showed up with 3 girls, of which were very happy to introduce themselves. When they were ordering I could hear giggles, one was very focused on me. I was tired at this point and said goodnight. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/6 "2009-10-11T20:56:53Z")
**Test 4:** Party time **Application-** 7pm 2 sprays of IS to the neck 2 sprays of IO, one to each hand 2 sprays of TUTH @11:30 - 1 drop of A314 **Situation** #1 wanted to go party, after arguing on where we went to my choice (usually we go to her choice) **Result (self)** nose was stuffy again, maybe this stuff is provoking it. Went away in 2 hours **Result** #1 when getting into my car was excited putting her hands through her hair and asking how I’ve been (saw her just last night, I laughed). Conversation was normal at this point but not as cheerful as the night before. When picking up a second guy friend she did ask if he had someone to bring too, she was implying he was a third wheel. But he didn’t. As the night went on she became more distant. Gravitated towards my friend. A third guy friend meet up at my house and brought another Asian girl. She was very interested in talking to me, going out of her way to do so sometimes and making me the center of attention. Same attention wasnt paid to my other two friends. On the way to the club, #1 was very distant and would not give attention to anyone. When in the club danced with my first friend a little then went off to find other guys. Myself for that matter, I was on top of the world with every girl looking at me. At one point a nice looking girl had grabbed me and seriously started grinding on me. Hits at the bar too. On the way home #1 was angry and didn’t want to talk to me. Best way to describe us is sort of like Mr. & Mrs. Smith mixed with Elaine and Jerry from Seinfeld. **Comments** Possibly OD for #1 but all other girls that night were very into me. The next morning #1 called me and said she was sorry. Said she had many things on her mind… I’m thinking the night before she may have felt confused. **Bonus Round** #1 wanted to go see a movie, I didn’t but after persuading I went to go see her… for the next report.. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/7 "2009-10-14T07:35:53Z")
**Test 5:** Strip Club Note: A few uneventful days together with Girl #1 passed, keeps inviting me out but remains reserved when together. Did make some Jealous actions though, very different. **Application-** 11pm 2 drops of A314 to wrists 2 sprays of IO to the hands 3 sprays of IS to the neck 1 sprays of Turn Up The Heat, back of neck **Situation** 2 guy friends come to strip club to catch up on old times. One is very experienced with strip clubs, other is lesser so. All 24-25 years old caucasian. **Result (self)** No noticeable effects, nose was not stuffy. **Result** On the ride to the strip club one of my friends that was less experienced was extremely chatty. Sometimes for no reason and repeating different things. When arriving the club had an extremely slow night. My experienced friend saw a business contact and left to talk to him. The bar tender (white blond) still did have a number of tables to attend to but tried to stick around us. She wanted to talk more to us but was busy. A number of strippers approached and we declined dances. As usual one came and sat down after passing by a few times, caucasian brunette. She grabbed my ear as sitting down and was insistent in touching me. Lots of insinuating talk about sex and only a few times asking for a dance. At one point she commented on some of the other dudes being creepy. I asked, “what brought you to us then?” She said, “something was just there…” She then smelled us and said, mmmmm for me.. then my friend “no, you don’t have it” then to me, " mm you definitely have something going on". Rest of the night she spent enticing me by leaning over me, rubbing my legs, smacking her pussy, sucking on her bottle opening going in and out. She wasn’t subtle. I was really ignoring her though, at some point she mentioned she had sex already today and I lost interest. Eventfully we left. On a side note the bartender girl came back and talked for a good 6min, uninvited. And another blond stripper invited us to drink absinth with her on sat, I asked how much and she said free… **Comments** I usually talk to strippers for the fun of it and never get dances, but this seemed a lot different. Very uninhibited actions and care free talking. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/8 "2009-10-17T17:10:03Z")
**Test 6:** Party time at ‘home base’ club **Application-** 7pm 3 sprays of IS to my hands and one to the neck 3 IG to the neck 1 spray of Turn Up The Heat **Situation** Went with 2 guy friends to my most often visited club, good guy girl ratio, good atmosphere, cheep drinks, place is large and swarming with multiple bars large multi floord dance area and pool table area. **Result (self)** Started the night with a headache before application, but noticed as the night went on I didn’t feel very godlike. Maybe from missing A314. **Result** We didn’t approach as many girls because of my headache but instead found a pool table and played some pool. When ordering drinks from the bar a number of times women would come and stand beside me to order (rest of the bad had lots of space) and would play with their hair a lot. I wasn’t in the mood to talk though. One instance worth noting was a shooter girl was particularly interested in talking to us and repeatedly came back to talk to us even though we told her we didn’t want anything from her. Eventually topic came of about playing old video games and playing with her. Let my friend get her number. Strangely enough when I went to buy pizza that night I ordered a medium 5$ walk in special as usual and I was given that + a large pizza no charge. I didn’t even talk to the guy at all except for the order. Also a police officer came in and struck up a conversation while we were waiting for my order talking about how bad everyone is at this club and making jokes with us ‘good guys’. **Comments** Interesting results even though I didn’t fully play the role well and not in the mood. I’m likeing IG and A314. ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/9 "2009-10-17T18:13:31Z")
Not sure why anyone else hasn’t commented, I read your entire journal and its pretty interesting. I’ll definitely be around to read the rest. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/10 "2009-10-18T23:31:09Z")
> [@pherophreak](#): > > Not sure why anyone else hasn’t commented, I read your entire journal and its pretty interesting. I’ll definitely be around to read the rest. Thanks pherophreak, probably because I havent the chance to reply to other journals making visibility for myself 😛, I will soon. But I’m having fun none the less! ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/11 "2009-10-18T23:55:53Z")
**Test 7:** Friday meet up with Lady Friend #1, 4th exposure **Application-** 5:30pm 3 sprays of IS to my hands and one to the neck 3 IG to the neck 1 spray of Turn Up The Heat 1 drop of A314 to the wrists **Situation** Lady friend 1 has a test to study for on Monday but wants to meet up, insists she shouldn’t drink or party. She should be ovulating around now. **Result (self)** Not feeling sick anymore and very nonchalant, very quick to say targeted witty responses. Effect lasted aprox. 2 1/2 hours **Result** When #1 entered the car she was supposed to introduce me to her friends in the mall. Instead she insisted we go anywhere but the mall. After 2-3min of driving around the mall parking lot looking for an exit she had a very confused look on her face, she was thinking about something. I asked what’s up, she said “ohhh I have a lot on my mind….” After flirty talking and driving for a while she asks “Can I drive, I need t distract myself” I asked oh from what? She says “I cant say it’s a secret”. At this point we continue thinking about what we can do, but come up with nothing that’s of interest. Friend #1 insists we meet up with someone and not of my guy friends. We end up at female friends house #2 from a week a go who we promised to see again. Like in the previous entry the two start fighting for my attention with #1 starting to space out at the end, admitting defeat or out of boredom. After 20min of this #1 wants to go party and ends our encounter. We drive back to #1’s house so she can get ready and along the way comments on how she can get ready really fast if she wants to. We agree she will get ready quick. And hour and a half later she comes down and announces she had to whack off. I ask how come and she says “well sometimes these things just come up.” Maybe she didn’t associate the feelings she felt with me or just didn’t agree with her. Anyways the rest of the night was filled with her getting free drinks from the promoter. Having applied everything early today at 5:30 pm I presumed that the effects would have worn off by 1am. Although the older promoter dude who I know as a weak acquaintance was really eager to say hi, I asked for some free passes and got 6. We finished the night with some Chinese food where #1 was very drunk, we walked together holding hands but that’s about as close as we got all night. **Comments** It seems she’s picking up on the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) but doesn’t want to associate those thoughts with me since they may disagree with her prior positioning of me. This is what I expected, but it’s entertaining to see how she deals with it. We have been intimate before but since then wanted to be friends. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/12 "2009-10-20T18:23:07Z")
**Test 8:** Birthday Party **Application-** 3pm 3 sprays of IS to my hands and one to the neck 3 IG to the neck 1 spray of IJ 1 drop of A314 to the wrists 3 sprays of SpaceLand to the leg @6pm 2 sprays of IG to the neck @8pm **Situation** Girl #1 invited me to an acquaintances birthday party on a Saturday. Usually I’m not invited to these sort of things. She insists she wont party tonight. **Result (self)** Not feeling sick anymore and very nonchalant, very quick to say targeted witty responses. Effect lasted aprox. 3 1/2 hours **Result** I pick girl #1 up at 3:30, she seems a bit rushed and distant but still in good spirits. She tells me she had fun the other night but plays the drunk card for anything after the club. I test her by indirectly talking about a few things that night and she seems to remember. So she still doesn’t want to acknowledge any sort of interacting with me. We arrive at the birthday and we are welcomed by everyone. I’m given a lot of attention for being an acquaintance offered beer etc. There quick to get me another one too. Girl #1 is acting shy on the couch meanwhile. I sit and talk with her a bit intermixed with the groups conversation. Another university friend started talking to girl #1 explicitly, I didn’t want to seem too needy and directed my attention to an aquarium in the other room where some of the other girls were. They were really exited I was there and made me the center of attention, hanging off anything I said. Eventfully girl #1 who had gone outside with all the guys around the bbq came in to see the fish as well. It was close to the dinner table so we sat together again and talked. There was some dried fish we started dissecting and playing with together. At this point there is still a bit of distance between us but she’s really happy when I talk to her. This is very unusual, usually she likes to try to get me to chase her for attention. Soon she’s getting me beers! At this point I go to the washroom and apply Spaceland for the first time, three sprays to the leg incase it smelt bad. I return, and after 20min everyone’s is talking loudly and girl #1 is getting closer and our legs are rubbing. She’s also getting a bit drunk, which she said she wouldn’t do. Soon she’s jabbing me to leave whispering “I want to go to a club, lets get out of here” **Round 2: Fight!** We make an excuse to leave the birthday just after #1 had a glass of 70% absinthe. She’s getting really drunk now and getting a loud voice. On the way to the club she’s drinking more and starting pick fights over everything and being wreck less. Before the club she wants to see my other friend who’s also downtown. While were stuck in traffic she starts screaming at me for 30min. She now wanted to go to a very bad afterhours place she had me promise I would not let her go. I said NO. Now she’s flipping out while we wait for my friend when she decides fine take me home. We had some yelling on the way home because ‘the road was too bumpy’ at which point I flipped out on her, slammed the brakes and made her go flying. She was taunting me to get angry and saying if you never want to talk again then don’t. She was quiet after then for a few min and started up again. I pulled off the high way into a supermarket and left her in the car screaming at the top of her lungs. I came back with some sliced meat and a totally different person with a loving look in her eyes. This is now around 12am in the morning and as I drive her back home she’s talking as if nothing happened snuggled into my arm. At one point she says “you know its getting harder for me to find people to f\_\_\_\_” and at this point she starts debating it in some drunken way whether or not she should. I’m being cautious, I don’t want any traps so I didnt pursue. I drop her off with a little kiss. **Comments** Did I just pass a shit test? She hasn’t done that in a long time… Next morning she plays the drunk card and says she’s so happy we didn’t go to the afterhours. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/13 "2009-10-22T15:32:02Z")
**Test 9:** Instant Gentlemen I decided to try the pheromones individually now that I have enough social proof that they work. **Application-** 5:30pm 3 [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) to the neck **Situation** Heading to the gym with my Russian friend **Result (self)** Feeling very nonchalant, very quick to say targeted witty responses even when not totally needed (with my close friend). Found I had to hold my tongue sometimes. No god like feelings. Effect lasted aprox. 2 hours **Result** When entering the gym the head lady in charge of the gym was taking care of the front desk. Usually its some part time worker. I only see this woman occasionally, she is in her mid 30ies and Asian. She was quick to ask “hey, havnt seen you for a long time!! Have you sill been coming?” I usually see her in passing maybe only just a day ago. I said “oh we been coming in the evenings” not really sure where to take that conversation since I have seen her recently. Lol There weren’t may other instances to test this evening but there were some disputes over the workout equipment. I had already sat down and started to use one that someone else was using. They actually said it be ok to finish my workout first! **Conclusion** It seems IG earns other peoples respect and or want/need to help you while causing your behavior to more on top of things. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/14 "2009-10-26T00:00:29Z")
**Test 10:** [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) **Application-** 1pm 4 sprays of IS to my hands and neck **Situation** Went shopping alone at the mall for a tie **Result (self)** Normally I would get a little annoyed when I go shopping because they never seem to have what I’m looking for. Today my mood seemed calm and focused. Neither negative or positive. **Result** Went to the tie section at some store, was asked do I need any help and I asked for there opinion. In the end I had two people picking out ties for me but they weren’t listing to what I wanted. I had come in looking for a solid color and they wanted me to have striped or patterned. My mood was still normal, and I don’t normally ask for opinions. I eventually found a nice metallic gray one that I was looking for and bought it. The store clerks were cheery, which was unusual at the store as well. I had been there a few times and people seemed to be down. **Comments** IS don’t seem to have a large impact on me but at the same time it did keep me from getting frustrated, which I have noticed in the past. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/15 "2009-10-27T15:57:51Z")
Just a small update First, got into a small car accident… cant drive much till the end of the week hopefully Second regarding girl #1… She continues to go through these phases testing to see who maintains dominance, also sometimes doing things to make me jealous then playing the drunk card. For example the other day she comes home all excited about an online game she plays then starts picking a fight with someone online, then starts flipping out at me on the phone. I tell her we can solve the problem etc. but hangs up in rage. I think to myself “meh I cant do anything productive when shes in a mood like that” so I keep reading the forums 😛 She calls back 10min later demanding I fix things her way, I do it differently and she flips out even more. Then she makes another mistake online, and I start takling more withdrawn like eveything is too messed up now. She instantly changes to a more submissive mode and starts supporting my idea. She becomes all lovy on the phone for the rest of the evening agreeing to whatever I say and asking me to call her after the gym. Im thinking the pheromones sparked a new interest in her, something that makes her feel challanged. But not entirly sure what to do about when in person. New order should arrive today… including things like p83, p80, p102, p126, mx200, TAF etc.. going to get to test them out 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/16 "2009-10-27T16:12:36Z")
Seems like you’ve got quite a push pull relationship with this girl. Make sure she is someone you really are interested in though. You never know how you might feel if she actually submits and you become an item. I’m not saying she’s not a good prospect, just make sure there is more to this than the chase. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/17 "2009-10-28T18:19:23Z")
Thanks pherophreak, yeah I don’t necessarily see many long term qualities in this one… on the contrary I’m feeling sociopathic vibes lmao. But very interesting to test pheromones on.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Alphamale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@Alphamale](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alphamale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/18 "2009-10-28T19:36:03Z")
Keep it coming, daset - you’re journal is very interesting. You don’t seem afraid to overdose though! ---
**Author:** ![Alphamale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@Alphamale](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alphamale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/19 "2009-10-28T19:41:21Z")
> [@daset1](#): > > **Test 9:** Instant Gentlemen > > I decided to try the pheromones individually now that I have enough social proof that they work. > > **Application-** 5:30pm > > 3 Instant Gentleman to the neck > > **Situation** > Heading to the gym with my Russian friend > > **Result (self)** > Feeling very nonchalant, very quick to say targeted witty responses even when not totally needed (with my close friend). Found I had to hold my tongue sometimes. No god like feelings. Effect lasted aprox. 2 hours > > **Result** > When entering the gym the head lady in charge of the gym was taking care of the front desk. Usually its some part time worker. I only see this woman occasionally, she is in her mid 30ies and Asian. She was quick to ask “hey, havnt seen you for a long time!! Have you sill been coming?” I usually see her in passing maybe only just a day ago. I said “oh we been coming in the evenings” not really sure where to take that conversation since I have seen her recently. Lol > > There weren’t may other instances to test this evening but there were some disputes over the workout equipment. I had already sat down and started to use one that someone else was using. They actually said it be ok to finish my workout first! > > **Conclusion** > It seems IG earns other peoples respect and or want/need to help you while causing your behavior to more on top of things. All very “Nice to have you back again, Mr. Bond”. Sounds like [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) alright! ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/20 "2009-11-01T21:19:56Z")
I got a bunch of reports coming up, my christening into the P’s… At the same time an update on Girl #1, shes been talking to be constantly through the whole week leading up to Halloween. Constant maintenance, more time then I would spend with any of my friends. Many different moods too, ranging from being sometimes close to other times flat out telling me about conversations shes having with other dudes on msn that want to get her. But this is nothing new, just intensified it seems. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076.md?page=2)