# Learnings of a Twisted Ostrich

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**Test 16:** Dealing with sales people

**Application-** 3pm  
3x IG to the neck  
2 1/2x space land to the hair

**Situation**  
Going to a gym that’s known for their deceptive tactics as well as sizing up people to chose how much money to try to get from them when signing up.

**Result (self)**  
Felt focused on what I wanted but at the same time at peace. Before applying the spaceland I was shaking a bit from nervousness because the administration is not to be trusted and there is a high probability of having a conflict with them. One wrong move on my part and I could have hundreds of dollars of charges in my bank account or my credit card.

**Result**  
My intent was to get there best membership at the lowest possible price. The gym has some of the best equipment and women in the area so it’s worth the risk. Upon speaking to the front desk they called down someone to look after us. Usually it would be someone younger but this time it was someone older about late thirties in a dress shirt. It was the manager. I knew this could be very good or horribly bad. The last time I spoke to a manager of this place I spent 4 hours with them trying to scam me. So the took me around looking at the gym equipment. He seemed less polished then you would normally expect, sometimes at a loss for words or even slightly intimidated. Top sales people normally talk more to build value in what there selling but he didn’t try this at all.

We then go to his office to talk about prices. He starts by looking up my name and member history seeing that I used to have a very good price before, but not as many features as I was looking to get now. He starts by saying “sorry we don’t offer you membership price any more”. Then he hesitated, says “but…” hesitates some more, “we do have a special just for this weekend at the same price that give you every feature in the gym” I was thinking wtf? You don’t have anything at my old price point you just said. So I said “at \_\_\_ price??”. “Yes” he said. So I say ok, sounds good.

Now the next tricky part is the contract I need to sign, sometimes they sneak in things that make you pay more so I have to look it over carefully. I count out my money and put it on the table expecting to see the contract but instead he takes the money and puts it away. I say “hey, I haven’t seen the contract yet!” he says “oh ok one moment” Pulls it out and I read it over for 10min, all the fine print. He comments “since you have a yearly membership most of the monthly stuff doesn’t apply” I see that most of the monthly stuff is where people get scammed, weird conditions like having to mail letters to cancel and stuff. So I sign that contract as there is no issue.

Then he pulls out a second contract I was unaware off stating that I will be willing to pay x amount of dollars for the membership. I ask “didn’t I pay already?” He says “oh yea I just forgot” I ask, “can you will out the numbers, its sorta like a blank check” he says “I can do it later” I say “please do it now” he says ok. Because I was afraid that he will fill in inflated numbers later or make the date when the membership expires obligating me to pay some huge renewal fee once the year is over. Once his sneakiness was done I asked for some guest passes and got 4, as well as his business card just in case I need more. I said thank you and left. The car ride home was filled with hysterical laughter as I just got a gym membership for almost half price.

**Comments**  
What I got is rare, I did some Craig’s list and kijiji shopping before going and most people leaving that gym have huge prices. The manager treated me like a vip and had comments like “wow your big, where have you been going already” I’m fit but not huge. It was interesting to see him lose is composure and selling game plan and just decide to give us the best deal possible. Next time I shop with sales people will add 10mcg of P126 and see if any different.

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