# Learnings of a Twisted Ostrich **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [October 7, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076 "2009-10-07T17:28:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 81
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076/81 "2010-06-18T16:20:55Z")
So I got very mixed results on my first trial of P86, but I believe the P86 helped me threw it. But I think introducing a mix of Bnols and P83 created a level of insecurity and negative honesty from our previous fight that wasn’t good for the relationship. I will have to be careful with Bnols when making up after a fight. **Test 33** : P86 Introduction with P83 and bnols minus [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) **Application** - 6pm 2x A314 P95 2x @10mcg p83 2x @10mcg P86 2x @20mcg none @ 7.5mcg TAC @ 20mcg **Situation** After the previous two nights of fighting I was coming over to make up and set things right. I used A314 instead of P75 to give me a little extra confidence. I also wanted some more closeness and tried using Bnols for the first time. It was also my first try with P86 which I decided to mix with P83. **Result** The evening started with my gf being distant. I could tell she had decided not to be touchy feely until things were straightened out. The distance went on for about 20min, I sould see she was aroused by my presence but still frustrated at the situation. Essentially she wants to get into a very serious relationship but without consideration to my situation or that we have only been together for a short while. She is also upset that she has to tolerate little things in my personality and situation that she doesn’t like and gets her angry. She decided that day that her anger issues were my fault. (in the past she promised to help her self, this time she was honest in how she felt… complete 180 turn on the situation). So we talked about it over supper, I was clam about is while she got frustrated. Her end conclusion was that we shouldn’t talk about it again. Her angered stated immediately returned to friendly and we molested each other. She was abit more physical and sensual, playing with my hand and body. Afterwords we were in a cheerful mood, she commented on her birthday coming up with a little concern. Then I changed the topic to my family and how we have done so well with living healthy. This upset her again saying that I was insensitive about her family and how they are no longer around, nothing could help them. Its very sad, how she was hurt at a young age loosing her father. Then recently with her mother and brother. So even being positive on the topic that with good knowledge on health its still upsetting. She doesn’t trust me on the topic of health apparently. I was then reexamined as to if I am a good mate with her listing all the quality’s of a provider that she wants and that she is un sure of me. Then focusing on all my negative attributes. (We have talked about this many times before me being younger then her). Then being insecure about finding a guy and not wanting to start all over. The rest of the night ended with her being confused and asking me to treat things like when we first started dating, focus on having fun. **Comments** I will be trying P86 again tonight but with my more traditional masculine mix I usually use which includes P75. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich/33076)._