# Less stinky EoW?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 11, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203 "2008-10-11T19:05:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/1 "2008-10-11T19:05:03Z")

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Well the good news is, I got a few new bottles of EoW, and it doesn’t seem quite as buttcheesy! 🙂 Has anybody else ordered it lately? When I sniffed it in the bottle it smelled more fruity. I compared it to the last batch I bought a few months ago and there’s definitely a difference. So I took a drop of my old EoW and dropped it neat into my right inner elbow and a drop of the new into my left and let dry down for a good twenty minutes. Upon application the new one was already less stinky. After dry down even less stinky. 'Cause I wasn’t going out and hanging at home I decided to try just a light body spray to cover. So, I used a honey body mist that also has floral notes of hyacinth and pink peony…meh. Not my favorite, but this was just an experiment to see if the new fruitier smelling EoW could be covered with a lighter scent. God knows it will never fully cover the older EoW, I didn’t expect it to, but l sprayed it over the old as well for comparison sake. As expected the older version of EoW bled through the light scent of the body spray. But the new EoW did very well, still a hint but very slight. It seems to change every time I place an order. I always order a few bottles at a time, 'cause I don’t order too much other stuff from LS other than Scent of Eros and the Edge…so by the time I get around to ordering again, it’s always changed. I know the other ladies who regularly use EoW have noticed this too. Even though the new batches of EoW have gradually become less and less stinky, it seems to have maintained its effectiveness. This is the least stinky batch I’ve ever had! Now the age old question. Does the less stinky stuff _really_ work as well? What do you ladies think? I haven’t tried it in the trenches yet. Let’s see if I get the usual response from you know who. In fact I know just when I’ll hit him with it…🆒 😛

Bella

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/2 "2008-10-12T12:56:18Z")

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I’ve only bought 2 bottles of EOW - the first one from several years ago was so foul I diluted it at 10% and it was still pretty stinky in the vinegar/buttcheese sense.

The second one I got in the past year I think, and it was worlds apart - fruity/funky when wet, and actually pleasant once it dried down. MUCH closer to a certain aspect of the real deal, though still no cigar IMO. In any event, I find the 2nd bottle easier to use and more effective.

My favorite copulins product is BI (from the other place) - that one really hits it, I think.

My second favorite is LAM covered with Scent of Eros/W.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/3 "2008-10-12T13:03:37Z")

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Yes Bella I have noticed it. It is more fruity then my earlier buttcheese bottles. I found with my fruity bottles I need to apply more then I do with the buttcheesy bottles. So for me the effectiveness did change a little but it still worked. I used 6 to 10 drops before now I use 8 to 12 .

I hope they didnt change it again cause I will be using 10 to 16 drops then LOL

I am getting ready to order some more myself.

BI is ok but I need alot of that two. I dont think its them its me. Man does it stink though snort, I love the SS over there.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/4 "2008-10-13T04:56:13Z")

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Hmm, I’ve ordered for eow too since my old foul smelling one is finished!!! (hopefully it’ll smell more fruity lol!)

BI is excellent btw!

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/5 "2008-10-13T13:29:56Z")

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BI is the bomb! I added about an extra 1 ml of the oil based EoW to my bottle…

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/6 "2008-10-13T17:03:06Z")

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BI? Please give me another clue.

I’ve ordered EOW from the “other” place but haven’t noticed anything with these initials. I’d like to check it out too!🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/7 "2008-10-13T17:09:17Z")

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Well we still cant say the name or PM it, those will get pulled into the filter but you should be able to find it if you got your EOW over there. Its in the same section. Two words. One starting with B one with I.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/8 "2008-10-13T17:28:32Z")

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Gosh! I must be dense or something. I’m only seeing something with “P.I.”, no B’s

I don’t want anyone to get in trouble though!

Oh well! I’ve got enough stuff from here that I’m still testing out…just waiting for a few other ones to come back into stock so I can order them too! I’m sure my CC is appreciating the break though 🙂

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**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/9 "2008-10-13T19:06:03Z")

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Hey Bella! Is this eow’s reactions blatant as your older ones when it comes to hits? 😃 We should invite everyone for an eow class!

River, keep looking, it should be there.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/10 "2008-10-13T22:04:13Z")

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> [@river](#):
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> Gosh! I must be dense or something. I’m only seeing something with “P.I.”, no B’s
> 
> I don’t want anyone to get in trouble though!
> 
> Oh well! I’ve got enough stuff from here that I’m still testing out…just waiting for a few other ones to come back into stock so I can order them too! I’m sure my CC is appreciating the break though 🙂

Hi river,

If you’re looking for BI at love-scent, that’s not the place. It’s the OTHER other place, the perfume place.

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**Author:** ![hgirl1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bcef8e/32.png) [@hgirl1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hgirl1)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/11 "2008-10-13T22:11:21Z")

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I got my order of EOW about 3 weeks ago. When I first opened the bottle the smell was bad but not that bad. It was sort of a rotten fruit scent. My DH actually thought it was a nice scent and actually got excited 😉 . I was quite surprised. He said it was very powerful stuff.  
However, the scent has definitely calmed down a lot. At first, I kept the bottle wrapped in aluminum foil and placed it in a glass jar. Now, I don’t have to do that. In fact, I almost don’t need a cover scent even when I put it on neat. It dries down to a very faint scent. I have to check my wrists to see if it is still there. That leads me to wonder if I am applying enough. Now, I only use 4 to 5 drops. I am thinking of slowly increasing the drops to about 7 or 8. I need more since I am a little older. This stuff is not easy to work with. I don’t want to repel anyone by OD’ing. I thought I did that the other day when I went to a bookstore to try it out. I used:  
2 sprays of I/S, neck  
2 sprays of Beta-andro, back of hands  
2 sparays of I/S a, neck  
4 drops eow, behind ears, neck and wrists  
I used a cover scent, Rock n Rose by Valentino.

I did not notice anything special from anyone except a guy got up and moved to different table when I sat down to read at a table near him ☹ . I thought maybe he was repulsed or annoyed by the response he was feeling from the pheros since he was studying or something 😕.

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**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/12 "2008-10-13T22:15:39Z")

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yeah.. im very into BI too. always get some nice reactions from it 🙂

hehe i love less foul smelling eow. hopefully the hits are the same.. maybe it smells better cuz they diluted it?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/13 "2008-10-14T11:31:45Z")

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> [@Carrie](#):
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> Hi river,
> 
> If you’re looking for BI at love-scent, that’s not the place. It’s the OTHER other place, the perfume place.

Oh sheeeeet I didnt even think of that. You can say love scent on the forum thats not the “other” place. Ok lets play forum charades.

Go to google and put in Essence of women. Skip all the Love scent responses. You will see one that sells really pretty and fabulous smellies and has a colorful site. Its a quite magickal place. By checking out the home page you will see they sell “influential” scents. Go to the influential scent section and you will find it there.

LOL sorry the best I can do I never played forum charades before.

> [@](#):
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> Hey Bella! Is this eow’s reactions _blatant_ as your older ones when it comes to hits? 😃 We should _invite_ everyone for an eow class!

I caught that Msselva LOL sneaky girl 😉

Goddess I wish this ban would be lifted. It is the biggest thorn in my side.

PS… on a side note, I have received a few PM’s and emails about this so for those new to the forum or members still upset over the issue of not mentioning the other company at this time. **This is my opinion and coming from me tisha and not from Androtics or any employee of Androtics.**

There is a fine line between sharing our knowledge and experiences and influenceing others to shop elsewhere. This problem has occured in other forums as well like LS who has a ban on us. Androtics and Jasmin have always been open to talk of other products but this case was different not due to the “other” store but to legal problems with the “supplier” of the other store which they no longer use there. It is not a reflection of that “other” store which we have repeatably endorsed. However… this forum is about Androtic products and the testing and use of them. It is what this forum was always about and Androtics works very hard and has spent alot of money to keep this forum and the store active which in turn keeps the research and discovery of new products happening.

Where do we/I draw the line between spam and traffic stealing and just sharing info. Its hard to say really. We all want a open forum but at the same time we want to be respectful of the company that has given this open venue to discuss our interest in [Pheromones](https://a314.com/).

As I said I am not a employee of Androtics. But I am connected to them through this forum. I think of it in this respect… I would not go over to another forum and try to influence others to go elsewhere for products. I did post at one time in their forum about **their products** and was careful and respectful of them by not mentioning the products here or trying to influence people to come here. I have never bad mouthed there products because I like them and I have enough knowledge and versitility to use both lines. **My opinion as member, pheromone user and moderator** If your a active member here (old or new) and your using these products and want to mention or ask about some other product and our opinion on it, I as moderator and spammonator of this forum am pretty lenient within the guidelines. Personally as user and member I see it as usual and usefull info. As moderator… If you come here just to plug something but contribute little else (meaning you have never discussed Androtics products) it leaves me little choice but to consider it as traffic stealing or spam and I do take offence to that. It is one of my functions here. I spend alot of my personal time eliminating spam and keeping this forum active and clean. It is a labor of love. Yes , it generates business but I dont work here so it dosnt make a financial difference to me one way or another. But I have alot of respect for Jasmin. MH and the employees of Androtics and there products. I also have respect for the “other” place and the ladies there. They both stand on there own merits and whether or not it hurts me to do it I will not hesitate to take action against traffic stealing and spam if I am **again** put in the position of doing so when dealing with this issue.

This is not to say that anyone has commited some wrong in this thread. It has little to do with this thread other then the subject of the “other” place coming up. This has been a issue that has bothered me from its start and I have had to deal with in other threads and communications. Its been difficult for alot of us

I just feel a need to get it off my chest in the open because I have been asked and accused alot in Pms and right here on the forum and the whole issue causes me distress.

So I just ask that understanding and respect be used on this issue. When talking about **any other company** or product. You are still uncensored even though we ask for restraint. Only one thread has ever been removed on this subject. Nothing has been removed since only modified to take out links. No one is trying to discredit or hurt a competitor.

Again its hard to know where to draw the line and be fair to everyone involved

Again just my own opinion and view due to the many accusations I have been subject to as of late. This is not a message from Androtics

I am truely sorry for hijacking this thread.

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/14 "2008-10-14T12:21:16Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Oh sheeeeet I didnt even think of that. You can say love scent on the forum thats not the “other” place. Ok lets play forum charades.
> 
> Go to google and put in Essence of women. Skip all the Love scent responses. You will see one that sells really pretty and fabulous smellies and has a colorful site. Its a quite magickal place. By checking out the home page you will see they sell “influential” scents. Go to the influential scent section and you will find it there.
> 
> LOL sorry the best I can do I never played forum charades before.

That search won’t get it. Type in Essence of Woman pheromones…you will LOVE all of their POTIONS such as BI…

They also have an oil based EoW, made by Stone Independent Research, that is called “Essence Oil”, which is FAB…

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/15 "2008-10-14T12:27:59Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Go to google and put in Essence of women. Skip all the Love scent responses. You will see one that sells really pretty and fabulous smellies and has a colorful site. Its a quite _magickal_ place. By checking out the home page you will see they sell “influential” scents. Go to the influential scent section and you will find it there.
> 
> LOL sorry the best I can do I never played forum charades before.
> 
> I caught that Msselva LOL sneaky girl 😉
> 
> Goddess I wish this ban would be lifted.
> 
> Tisha
> 
> Just remember though this forum is and always has been about the testing of androtic products not about advertising for other companies

River, I read between the lines and found it (humble male and all that) 😉

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**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/16 "2008-10-14T12:45:26Z")

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I’m confused now. Have the forum policies changed? When I joined, I read somewhere that we could talk freely about other companies’ products?

Is this true or not? And why can we talk about love scent’s products but not this other perfume store?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 1:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/17 "2008-10-14T13:19:31Z")

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> [@xev](#):
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> I’m confused now. Have the forum policies changed? When I joined, I read somewhere that we could talk freely about other companies’ products?
> 
> Is this true or not? And why can we talk about love scent’s products but not this other perfume store?

I edited my above post to cover this xev. We were posting at the same time 😉

Lord I have to edit this one to add that **I am not referring to any member in this thread.** No need to get all defensive of any long time member of this forum. I have said it before and I will say it again publicly. I have tremondous respect. love and admiration for the long time female (and Male) members of this forum which contributed in the past and now. I also have growing respect and admiration for our new members. I am referring to those who have never posted anything other then direction to another vendor.

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**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/18 "2008-10-14T14:02:40Z")

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Thanks Tisha. I just wanted to be sure I understood the policies, so that I could make sure I followed them.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/19 "2008-10-14T14:15:17Z")

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No problem, I know its confusing. It is for me to and I know what the policies are LOL

Jazzy said it was only temporary and she has been super busy lately so she will make the all clear decision when the time is right and she has time to address the issue again.

The official policy as told to me though is…

No posting of links to labs or other vendors. (This often causes a connection between there site and this forum)

You can talk about your experiences with other products. In most cases other then with LS you can post just the name or preferably the initials of the product. Why its different from LS I cant say. I dont make the rules I just enforce them.

All in all this is a very uncensored and open forum though. I have been a member of alot of forums and they are pretty good and understanding here about everything. So if a mistake is made we just correct it and dont come down hard on anyone.

Just keep in mind the statement I made in my above posts on this issue are that of my opinion as member. People tend to forget I am still a member not just the moderator 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-stinky-eow/21203/20 "2008-10-14T14:22:20Z")

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Sorry, I didn’t mean to cause any problems.:o I told you I was dense!!! But I got it NOW!! And yup, I was looking in the wrong “other place” 🙂

BTW: No one and nothing will rip me away from Androtics cuz I LUUUVVV their stuff and you just can’t beat the service, so no worries, I may dabble with other scents and potions, but my heart belongs here!

Thank you everyone for letting a newbie be part of the group!!! You guys are awesome!😃

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