# Less than Impressed...So Far!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 14, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-than-impressed-so-far/51804 "2011-08-14T19:32:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SolidGold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@SolidGold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SolidGold)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-than-impressed-so-far/51804/1 "2011-08-14T19:32:23Z")
So heres my up to the minute report. Pardon the poor punctuation, but this is total stream of conscious, taken directly from notes to my iphone. Please let me know if you have any feedback or suggestions regarding the mixes ive been using in these different situations. And thanks in advance for your assistance! Mon. 8/8. Been holding back anger over several underlying issues and got into it w/gf over text - had chemicals on hands and smelling all day. IH or IJ or AMMO. Could be coincidental too as she pushed me over the edge. Didnt lose her, prob respects me more, and feels good to get these issues off my chest. Generally feeling slightly more irritated at others while doing errands at po. Otherwise, no difference in interactions. And despite being fully rested, making more small mental errors than usual. Prob due to wearing glasses instead of contacts tho, as thats something personal that ive observed for years. Thurs. 8/11 Rather than applying mones before going on, since sprays not as long lasting as oils and maybe even drops, keeping them in small carrying case inside glove compartment and then applying before walking into the venue. See attached photo, just for fun. I tend not to like too much fragrance so 1 spray on wrist and 1 on neck each of 314a, is and io. Meeting people at hockey league i run. Respectful and standoffish mostly but could be because i was wearing street clothes instead of usual workout attire. Older chick that has huge crush on me lit up when i walked in but prob due to her attraction and street clothes. And later she became a bit standoffish too. Conclusion: Doubt any of the observed behavior was related to mones and no self effects noticed either. Next stop, soccer league i run. Not as familiar with those people and vice versa. Feeling less confident. Mixed reactions. Some people friendly and glances from a few cute chicks. Other people less so. But no refence pts, unlike hockey, so cant say they were any more or less respectful. Conclusion: Again prob no difference. Final stop, blues dance. Chicks mostly unattractive but some will get close and a lil freaky at times. Some older and younger but mostly awkward hipster types in their late 20s and early 30s. Got there during final 45 min and still crowded, surprisingly. Two hrs after applying mones i could still smell them. Not sweating very much and a fairly cool night temperature wise. Dancing slow and close with a variety of women, most single and some of which i already knew would be a good test. Danced w/10 chicks and 3 or 4 were staring at me/swooning after our dance. In at least 20 times of coming to this event, thats the 1st time i can recall that kind of behavior. However, one typically freaky chick was more restrained than usual. But two others seemed very attracted/interested. College cutie i know from before seemed into me and giving me extra glances after our dance. And cute little black chick was clamping her thighs around my leg as she danced, something that rarely ever happens. And i made it a point to observe that she wasnt doing that w/anyone else. But there were two others that danced close w/other people while seeming more standoffish and less physical during our dances. Everyone seemed eager to dance when i asked and nobody turned me down. Two other girls i know but didnt have a chance to dance with seemed happy to see me and we socialized a bit. Conclusion: Willing to put some of my skepticism to rest. Should be interesting tomorrow and sat as those dances arent quite as close and attract different crowds. But now im starting to feel like there could be something here, esp after seeing that swooning effect. So this is def worth exploring further. Fri. 8/12 West coast swing. Mostly 30s, a couple 20s and a few older. One spray of ammo on wrist and then on neck. One spray of is, but larger than i wanted. Danced with 15 women and aside from a few that seemed generally friendly, most were standoffish, including some women that i already knew. In fact, a few ignored me when i said hello and one who i dance with all the time was completely silent, even when i asked her a few questions. Very bizarre. Two of the younger, less experienced dancers seemed friendly though. One was especially giggly and initiated a big hug after we finished. But overall, i really didnt notice any positive effects that were out of the ordinary and maybe only some negative ones, or their standoffishness could have been purely coincidental as some of this crowd is known for being snobbish. Conclusion: Fail. And writing these reports is making me realize that either many of these dancers dislike me or perhaps theyre just a strange and awkward breed. Sat. 8/13 Filling up the car at the gas station and babe pulls up across from me to do the same. She wearing sunglasses but we lock eyes for at least four sec. As usual, i look away first as staring someone down is a bit creepy, and her attraction then seems lost. Then i realize how easy it is to get a false positive as im not wearing any mones, but my hair and clothes happen to look good today. At the same time, i realize that mones keep me more present than usual as im paying extra attention to all my interactions these days. Next, its time for our sat gig. Been doing it for two years and decide to run an experiment to see if our audience and musician friends act any different around me. Ive been gigging with these guys for over 15 years now. Using a big spray of is and a smaller one of io. Conclusion: No difference. Carolina shag dance. Primarily 60s and even 70s in that crowd. But they tend to love me as im the only virile guy in the room, despite my lack of experience with that particular style. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or 314 could work but lindy swing dance later with tons of younger chicks in their teens and 20s, many of whom are religious types. I suspect either mone could be too strong in that environment. So going with is and io as best choices tonight. Thinking about mx297 too, but for research purposes, ill limit the variables 1st time out and keep it simple. As expected, the geriatric shag crowd was as friendly as usual. And 4 hrs had already passed, so i couldnt smell it too much anymore. Only 5 women were there, and i didnt notice anything out of the ordinary…prob a good thing with that crowd, lol! Conclusion: No difference. Onto the big lindy swing dance now. This one attracts hundreds of people and tons of young chicks. I havent picked up at one of these in a long time tho. Well see if tonight is any different. Keeping it simple with a big spray of is and a smaller one of io, both to the neck. Those shouldnt be too intimidating for this crowd. And a spray of each to the wrists. Huge crowd and 1st time i noticed some possible self effects as i seemed somewhat more outgoing than usual in this setting. Women seemed friendly and receptive, including some cuties. And one milf i know greeted me w/a hug and gave me her cheek for a kiss, somewhat surprising for that setting. However, nothing was too out of the ordinary so not sure if the mones had much impact or if everything was mostly coincidental. Conclusion: No swooning like thurs but mones could have had some impact on my own level of sociability and in some interactions with others. Women arent going to throw themselves my way, but mones could serve as a nice social lubricant and attractant. But its still necessary to open and close as usual. Next time ill be adding some mx297 to the mix and perhaps some ammo as 314 could be too intimidating for this group. I also may try two sprays of IS and IO as a possible sweet spot. Still need to test them in a bar/club setting, and with the gf, perhaps using some tuth to see whether that improves her libido any. And tonight im out playing hockey. So i may try out some ij, just to see what happens, lol! To be continued… ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-than-impressed-so-far/51804/2 "2011-08-14T23:10:19Z")
Have you done the sweet spot testing? I mean one product at a time, incrementally working up to finding the sweet spot for you and one [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)? Do you know the reactions you can expect from one product before you started combining? You need to know what each one does to you and for you; and how others react to you wearing ONE before you can make statements about various reactions. Are you observing so closely that your missing the larger picture? From your post; your inconsistent with details. Not every section has application doses or the effects you know you get with those doses. What’s the range? The ambient temp of the venues? Are you sweating? Is it cold? People don’t just react the second you walk up to them or their personal space - they have to have a minute to breathe in the mones for them to react. And they have to be in range for an ‘instant’ reaction. The further they are to you, the longer it’s gonna take for the mones to deliver their message. ---
**Author:** ![Preston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a587f6/32.png) [@Preston](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Preston)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-than-impressed-so-far/51804/3 "2011-08-18T01:28:19Z")
You’re really going way to light with the socials man. 1 spray of IO or IS isn’t going to do anything. Try 2-3 sprays of those. Then you’re going pretty light on the ammo and A314 also. I know you’re in your mid-40’s so you make less -none then the younger guys, so you can use more of those products and get away with it. Sweet spot testing is a good idea. Also don’t be afraid to do like 5 sprays of IJ and go to Target and clear aisles because the stuff is scaring people away..lol Its a good way to see that yes, this stuff works! haha ---
**Author:** ![SolidGold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@SolidGold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SolidGold)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-than-impressed-so-far/51804/4 "2011-08-18T03:59:25Z")
Wow! Good advice…you’re really into this stuff!!! I’ve always hated smelling all “perfumed out”, esp. in a dance setting. But for the sake of science, I’ll start upping the ante, so to speak. Tomorrow night is the blues dance again. And that’s the one event where I actually noticed some effects last week. Maybe I’ll have to “turn up the heat”, lol! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-than-impressed-so-far/51804/5 "2011-08-18T20:10:54Z")
There’s a thread (stickies) of the introduction section that can guide you if needed on sweet spot testing 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SolidGold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@SolidGold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SolidGold)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-than-impressed-so-far/51804/6 "2011-08-22T03:59:39Z")
WEEK #2: Getting over a few lingering injuries, so didnt want to take chances with ij at hockey last sun. Curious though and will test it out maybe the following wk. Tues night wcs dance. Somewhat different crowd/vibe. Rather than ammo like last fri @ the other wcs event, i went w/314, hoping to replicate some of the effects from last thurs @ the blues dance. Plus io and is, one large spray for all three. Most women friendly but nothing unusual noticed. Conclusion: No difference. Thurs blues dance again. Instead of trying to replicate success from last week, i opted for tuth rather than ammo, testing it out for the 1st time. Given the close dancing and somewhat sexual vibe, i thought it could be interesting. Again, i balanced it out w/io and is, one spray each for all three. Danced w/12 chicks, only two of which were attractive. At least six were friendly and very talkative, but thats not too out of the ordinary. But i sensed some possible hits during a few of the dances again, with two women actually sticking their noses into my neck for extended periods of time. Honestly, i cant remember the last time anything like that has happened. No swooning effects like last week w/the 314, but def turned up the heat. Conclusion: Mones could be effective, particularly in an upclose and somewhat sexual environment, however they havent been attracting the younger chicks that im targeting. Perhaps, theres too much none, even w/one spray. Back to the lindy dance on sat, and since this isnt as upclose, im going with two sprays of io and is, along w/two of mx297, testing it out for the very 1st time. Hopefully, ill get closer to finding my sweet spot, particularly for this crowd and style of dance, as it skews much younger…exactly what i like!!! Interesting results as 15 dances and chicks seemed very friendly and talkative, possibly moreso than usual. One even ran up to me asking for a dance. And that rarely ever happens. Could be completely coincidental tho as she was prob too far away to smell anything at the time. Also, possibly some good self effects as again i felt friendlier and more talkative/attractive. Conclusion: Worth another look but nothing too unusual observed. Just for fun im trying 2 sprays of ij before the sun night hockey game. Ive been playing in this league for long enough and with the same people to tell whether im going to get a strong negative effect from the mones and/or people may give me some space, improving my scoring chances. No major differences tho got into a bit w/another player and we both were penalized. We had a little rivalry going on during the game, and he mouthed off a couple times. But i tend to play w/a chip on my shoulder every now and then, esp if people rub me the wrong way. Teammates still didnt listen much to my strategy advice. And fairly cute, young girl on team seemed a bit friendlier than usual, while 34 yo girl w/huge crush on me was all talkative, big eyed and more touchy than usual. Conclusion: Inconclusive. Could all be coincidental. But playing around w/these mones and observing/tweaking has been kinda fun. Next week same dances from before, plus trying mones @ tues nite lindy dance for 1st time w/lotsa mid-late 20s and early 30s. Could test mx390 w/this group, since its supposed to be more alpha than mx297 while having some of the same social qualities and i had some decent results on a younger crowd this past sat while testing the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-than-impressed-so-far/51804/7 "2011-08-22T08:52:42Z")
When are you going to do your sweet spot testing? Times and applications are not clear in your post. If you don’t do the sweet spot testing, how can you come to any conclusions about hits? It’s all conjecture, at this point. ---
**Author:** ![SolidGold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@SolidGold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SolidGold)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/less-than-impressed-so-far/51804/8 "2011-08-22T15:10:17Z")
Agreed. I’m mostly making educated guesses at this point in time, trying out different mixes based on the type of event/crowd. The first week was mostly single sprays, and this past week, I’ve started testing double sprays. Application points have been mostly to the neck. And I’ve applied the sprays 5 minutes prior to each event, usually keeping them without re-application for approx. two hours. Perhaps, I’ll get more systematic about it eventually, but that will probably take away some of the fun. And I’ve always been more arts than sciences…