# Let's explore the "Crush Effect" **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 6, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-explore-the-crush-effect/53180 "2011-11-06T23:00:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 42
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-explore-the-crush-effect/53180/42 "2011-11-15T05:12:58Z")
My thanks to Tisha and Bella for offering their enlightened opinions at my invitation. The female view has been missing and I know of no two more knowledgable contributors of either gender. My point in this thread is that the “crush effect” attributed largely to P83 was not a useful description. It impliedsmore than P83 delivers. Sorry to be the mean old [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) engineer here but sometimes we need to deflate the claims that are overblown and misleading. P83 has its uses but creating a “crush effect” is probably not one of them. Why do I link P83 and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD)? Partially based on my own experience that I documented here: [P83 Self-Effects - Heightened Aggression](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-effects-heightened-aggression/25045) I can see where it can add purposefulness which is the healthy version of of a behavior that is the basis for the problem of OCD. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-explore-the-crush-effect/53180)._