# Let's explore the "Crush Effect" **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 6, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-explore-the-crush-effect/53180 "2011-11-06T23:00:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 75
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-explore-the-crush-effect/53180/75 "2013-07-09T17:32:59Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I don’t recall much by way of crush properties attributed to P104? > > Most of what I remember was light disinhibitor/feelgood/mood lifting. IIRC it was often used to steer IH, or heavy-going status mixes of the sort that already have fallout potential and that quite a few guys combined it with A1 to good effect in PMS mixes - which again has established crush potential. > > I’ve got a bottle barely started - I was keeping it for after the surgery as I don’t think it would suit hobbling around in agony mixes. ☹ Some ladies liked it, but that doesn’t always equate to performing well if I wear it. I’ve done P102 and 103, so going with that sequence seems neat. Found a hypnotic effect with 103 and slightly with 102. Alternatively, I’ve done 74, 75 and 83, so P78 is another candidate…that also did well with women for self fx. I like things such as [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) that have a charm quality. I think P103 was good with IH. I’d have to check notes. But an additional hypnotic quality would probably help betanol and IH. > [@MX257 P104 Its a hit !!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx257-p104-its-a-hit/5430): > > I decided to start my own post about it in the womens section because my results are a little different then the mens. This could be my new favorite after Mx216. I was gonna wait for a few days of testing but I cant stand it I gotta share. LOL I used 1 spray 2.5 mcg to my wrist yesterday before work just to see the self effects. I didnt like the coconut smell but I dont normally like coconut to much anyway. It still wasnt offensive though. No head rush effects at this time. About 10 minutes aft… Generally, excepting TAL, mones that _girls like_ in doses tested well _by men_…these perform well when _I wear_ them. Mole L on a guy is like None on a girl. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-explore-the-crush-effect/53180)._