# Let's go on an adventure **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [March 13, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947 "2008-03-13T01:34:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/302 "2009-07-18T13:38:47Z")
So, I guess its time I put up my review on “Social Intelligence.” I got this audio book from the wonderful people at AD for free about a YEAR ago. xD Sorry its taken so long guys. I want to say that I was a good and popped it in and finished it within a day, but I slacked and didn’t get around for about 2 months. I’ve listened to it several times now, but at first it was really hard to get through. Anyhow here goes. The beginning is god awful to listen to. Its the reason why I would start listening and stop. It tells you basic things that seem very common sense and I felt retarded listening to it. After you can get through that and actually listen, it gets much better. I’m going to make this as short and sweet as possible. This was a great book. Even though it goes through a lot of “no shit” “duh” moments, you don’t realize exactly what he’s saying till that “duh” moment happens and it just turns on a light. The book doesn’t just explain things socially in the social aspect. So you’re not exactly exploring sociology going from the outside INTO the world of sociology. You’re more like already IN the world of sociology and he’s going about explaining sociology as he’s moving out of the realm of sociology into other realms like social psychology, psychology and all that other stuff. I don’t know shit about NLP, but I imagine from the limited information I hear about it, that this would be a nice add on to it. The author teaches you things you already knew, but gives you more insight into it. Those “duh” instances are usually going to be obvious, but there are also other instances where it has more meaning and insight to it. It took me a LONG time to come up with this analogy, but its the best one I can come up with. 2 seasons ago, I went to a Chargers vs Indy game. It was sick. Now, if you asked me who won, I would say “The Chargers won.” Now deep down, it was more like “Indy lost the game” (their kicker, Vinatieri who has like a 98% successful kick rate from under 30 yards missed like a 26 yard kick and that gave the chargers the break for the win). Even though those two statements mean the same thing, they give you different information. So the author is saying things differently that may seem obvious, but until you actually see/experience some of it, you might not appreciate it like I did. Actually, the whole “social” thing is kinda misleading. Cause these days we’re so specific and technical that we fail to realize that sociology isn’t limited to certain things but is really all encompassing. This looks at things in more of an interaction view so its more of an insightful observation of human interactions and the factors and consequences from them. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/303 "2009-07-29T01:55:49Z")
Tried out MX302 the other day. First test was 1 spray to neck. Usual routine of class, errands, etc. Didn’t quite ghost, didn’t really get any hits. Felt like a dud. Didn’t notice many self effects, no one was really social or not social. Strange mix. Second test, 1.5 sprays to neck. Similar results as the first one. Nothing definitive. Maybe pair it with TAF and see if that works. Testing is going slow. Hopefully I’ll have better places for testing. In about a month or so I’ll be on vacation, so that’ll be interesting. Classes are doing a nice job of beating me down on a daily basis. Be back with testing and reports when it stops hurting. xD ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 12:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/304 "2009-07-30T12:48:47Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > MX292: This product is really getting interesting. It’s very moldable and fluid. Social, sexual and fun. It’s the best of pretty much everything. I’m hoping they allow or come out with unscented soon or maybe let out the recipe… 😃 Great report, as usual! Check your PM! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/305 "2009-07-30T18:45:54Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > _ **Testing is going slow. Hopefully I’ll have better places for testing. In about a month or so I’ll be on vacation, so that’ll be interesting. Classes are doing a nice job of beating me down on a daily basis. Be back with testing and reports when it stops hurting. xD** _ Hang in, Zeph, you’ve almost got it licked. In the mean time, something sweet and petite…to kill the pain. [http://thechive.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/asian-nuses-hot-2.jpg](http://thechive.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/asian-nuses-hot-2.jpg) 😃 Bella ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/306 "2009-07-30T23:08:55Z")
hah, thanks Mark. =) > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Great report, as usual! Check your PM! 🙂 Wow Bella, I don’t know if you’re psychic or what not, but I’m gonna be traveling in Asia, so, very appropriate picture. She definitely looks like she can help with the pain… or maybe cause more of it? 😉 > [@Bella](#): > > Hang in, Zeph, you’ve almost got it licked. In the mean time, something sweet and petite…to kill the pain. > > [http://thechive.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/asian-nuses-hot-2.jpg](http://thechive.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/asian-nuses-hot-2.jpg) > > 😃 > > Bella Hope the both of you are doing well, as well as everyone else. Probably be MIA the next few days, got a huge test coming up tomorrow, then Vegas right after. Hopefully get some testing done? Most likely not, but you can always try! /edit Ah, forgot to mention that I’ve been thinking of trying to make a new mix. About a year-ish ago (it’s been that long!) I made a mix that I thought would work well for a friend and he ended up not wanting it cause he was skeptical, its smelled to strong, blah blah blah. It was a really simple mix, probably something that was already made or someone had already made. Now, after learning a LITTLE bit more about some of the putatives and SOME of the ways they work, I’m trying to muster up the courage to make a new mix that won’t SUCK. If I do happen to make this mix, I’ll be taking it to Asia with me along with some of the new goodies or untested stuff I have. So, if anyone has advice on whether its better to composite molecule x and molecule y first before adding to this mixture and letting it composite for a-b amount of time and stuff of that nature, let me know. What I’m REALLY curious about is whether or not mixing certain molecules together first before adding to this mix before adding to another creates a more synergistic effect based on say their molecular structure? (Like van der waals forces, hydrogen bonding, if any of this applies). Are there certain molecules who will in a sense are more attracted to each other and can be diffused like a 2 for 1 molecule? Like say TAA was really attracted to B-Nol and as a result tend to move together. If not, CAN you do it in a way so it DOES? So if I composite say -none and TAA together for a while and mix that with another composite of say B-nol and TAF for a SHORTER time. Would that cause the TAA/NONE to in a sense carry/diffuse more so together than say TAA/B-nol, TAA/TAF or NONE/B-nol and NONE/TAF? I’m looking for stuff like that. I know its kind of hard cause really, I have (and I’m guessing most of you) no idea what the structures are so we can’t really theorize something like “hey, this molecule has a lot of these bonds which would really work well with this molecule cause of these bonds, so they might carry together in a mixture.” It’s that kind of stuff I’ve been thinking about for a while now, so if anyone knows, please please send me a PM. Hell, even the carriers are a factor so if anyone has insight on perfumer’s alcohol (its what i mix with) lemme know. =D ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/307 "2009-07-31T06:11:19Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > _ **Wow Bella, I don’t know if you’re psychic or what not, but I’m gonna be traveling in Asia, so, very appropriate picture.** _ _Nooo_, not psychic…_physic!_ If I recall, you were also in Asia last year for school? So, will you be mixing a little pleasure with that? > [@](#): > > _ **She definitely looks like she can help with the pain… or maybe cause more of it? 😉** _ She _is_ a sight for sore eyes 😛… only one way to find out, Dr Zeph. Hmm, she’s a physical therapist, so it could go either way. > [@](#): > > _ **Hope the both of you are doing well, as well as everyone else. Probably be MIA the next few days, got a huge test coming up tomorrow, then Vegas right after. Hopefully get some testing done? Most likely not, but you can always try!** _ I’m just fine, thanks, and cowboy? Haven’t ya heard? Happy days are here again! 🙂 Vegas?! Sounds like fun, are you taking your nurse? > [@zeph](#): > > _ **Ah, forgot to mention that I’ve been thinking of trying to make a new mix. =D** _ Good luck with testing, Zeph, school _and_ pheromone…and getting together your new mix. Try not to spontaneously combust. 😛 😉 Bella ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/308 "2009-08-03T05:53:56Z")
Steve, I take back what I said about MX302 earlier. MX302 x2, chest, neck MX272 x2, neck Had fun this weekend. Anyhow, went out to a local supermarket with a friend to get prepared for the night. Market was fairly busy. We started at the right side of the store and I noticed this older blonde woman a few minutes after we started shopping. Guessing somewhere in the 40s. She was walking towards us and didn’t notice any reaction from her. Then, an aisle or two down, she starts following us. At first, I figured, hey, it’s a damn big store and i’m being crazy. Then all of a sudden, she’s looking and shopping for the exact same things we need… we skip an aisle, so does she. Then at one point, it’s like she was shopping with us 😮 Only when my friend and I double backed 3 times did she stop. Yeah, we’re forgetful and indecisive xD Had a nice social hit too as my friend and I were trying to leave the store. Chatted up a couple as we were trying to figure out how to pick out ripe watermelons. I would say that if you watched the end of our interaction, it would have looked like we were familiar with one another, like old friends. Initially, the distance between us was about 8 feet. By the end of our interaction, we were standing next to each other like we were friends at a party, intermingled as we were talking. Used it again later and had a few more hits that night but i’m really too lazy to recall them all. It was overall a good balance of hits throughout the night, although nothing as blatant as being followed like in the supermarket. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/309 "2009-08-06T15:48:45Z")
MX200 x2 to neck Using a lot of the “asian” type pheromones, AKA socials. Sat in the middle of the class, 2 Asian girls in front of me. One on the right looked behind her about… 10 seconds after I sat down. And again a few seconds later. And again a few seconds after that. The first one though, I’m pretty sure she was just looking at who sat down and then to play it off she was looking for her friend when our eyes caught each other for a second. The next two times she also seemed to look for her friend. Not too sure if she was trying to look in my direction, but after that, she stopped looking for her friend. Her friend came to class late, caught her looking at me during class. Both of them were playing with their hair a lot. Latina girl next to me was also sending out some IOIs but I ignored her. Really hard. That stopped real quick. People around me in general were talkative. Even people that I know are generally not. In a huge class with a boring, confusing and complex topic having socials can be a problem if you’re actually trying to listen. Wore MX200 twice to class 2 days in a row and both days, people would NOT shut up. And some of these people are those smart, study hard type students that don’t normally talk. Range of the pheros are seems surprisingly short. Feels like the most effective range is about 4-5 feet, maaaaybe up to 6-8. It’s hot as fuck here and walking to class gets me all nasty and sweaty, I’m pretty sure there’s no problem with diffusion. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/310 "2009-08-16T20:01:49Z")
Will be gone for an extended period of time. Good luck to everyone. Hope you’re all doing well. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/311 "2009-08-28T20:17:37Z")
Taking off for vacation. Be back in 2 weeks. Bringing a few goodies. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/312 "2009-09-07T13:49:28Z")
[MX200](https://a314.com/product/mx200/) quick update while I can. Works well with Asians as suspected. Downside though, the dosage can be a bit tricky IMO. Sometimes 2 sprays is too little, sometimes it’s too much. Good hits with it. Got decent IOIs IF target was exposed to it long enough. Weather has been extremely humid and fairly warm. Diffusion isn’t an issue. Downside though, I’ve been outside majority of the time. IMO MX200 is best for indoors. MX272 Still feeling like it’s a social mix. Haven’t really been feeling the relaxing rapport vibe as much as I did (or thought I did) in the past. MX292 Definitely got reactions from it. Not all positive, not all negative, but I’d have to say for the most part, it’s been okay. Like a 6 or 7 out of 10. Overall I think the weather has been playing a large role. Some days pheros will last an hour, some days like 4, so I’m not too sure if the pheros are still on me and affecting my targets. While I’ve been here and testing, MX200 has gotten me the most hits (reactions). MX272 and MX292 work well too but I think MX200 has been the safe bet. Too sleep deprived. Night. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/313 "2009-09-13T08:45:10Z")
Just got back from vacation. Had a good time. I brought with me: [MX200](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx200/) MX292 MX272 MX302 TAA @ 10 mcg my custom mix A314 I MOSTLY tested MX200 because I was in HK, Japan and Korea. MX200: I’d say this is the AMMO for Asians. Lotsa hairflipping, looking over at my direction, etc. I’ve noticed though, it takes time. It seems the target has to be exposed for I’d say a good 5 minutes. It was a bit hard “testing” because of the language barrier. Went with a travel tour based out of HK so everyone in the tour was Chinese visiting Japan/Korea. I’m not fluent in Cantonese but I can understand it much better than I can speak it (typical… lol). Hits were mild at first, but over the course of the tour, meaning more time spent with the group, they slowly became a little more obvious and there was less restraint in hiding hits. Short conscious glances became longer stares. Body mimicking and hair flipping was more common. I tried layering this on with MX292 at times and I didn’t notice anything. I’d have to say that the MX292 on me with the travel group might have caused some congruence problems due to the language barrier (I didn’t really speak too much). MX292: For me during the trip, it was a dud. Hard to play the role when you can’t speak the language and are doing your own thing with your family. I did notice however, when I wore this, the couples married or dating, the males would be more protective of their girlfriend/wife. They’d be wrapping their arms around them more, hugging them, reducing personal space and overall showing a lot of PDA. A314: Ok… WOW. I freaking love this thing. So on the second leg of the tour in Korea, we went with a tour group, but it was a different company. There was this really cute Chinese girl (not my type but very pretty none the less) who responded ok with MX200. She’s the princess type. Has LV bags, Fendi, Prada, etc. Always well dressed, make up, etc. Paired A314 with MX200 and BAM! Hits galore. My brother and I sat in front of the bus but we’d be lazy and let people get out first. EVERY SINGLE TIME she passed me, a stare + hair flip. I didn’t really pay attention to her much so I didn’t really look at her but when I did, I’d say about 20% of the time she’d be looking at me. The older ladies/grandmas asked me for help for random things, always complimenting me on even the most menial of things (like teaching them how to turn on their light on the airplane when they could have simply have asked their son), being able to trick the elevator into going up, etc. Playing the role with this, even with the language barrier rocked my expectations. People my age opened me randomly and once they found out I could understand most of what they were saying and was able to reply in Chinese, they talked to me on a daily basis. For me, I hid the fact that I could understand them and could speak enough to get by. I remembered one morning after wearing MX200 and A314 (A314 was like 1/2 a drop, MX200 probably 3-4) this girl who was there with her BF made it a point to say good morning to me in English. I was pretty shocked because it was the second day with the group so I said good morning in both English and Chinese and from then on, she’d say hi, ask me and my bro how we were doing, talk with my parents, etc. My custom mix: Uhm… with the doses and and mcg I used, I had to spray a LOT to really get it at even a testing dose. I pretty much only had enough to test it twice. Upside to having to spray a lot, was being able to spray all over and allow it to diffuse more. It was “unscented” so I covered it with MX200 lightly. Only thing I noticed was it made me feel more confident and outgoing. I felt like the motha fukin man. That was really about it. People didn’t respond negatively or positively with this mix or I was just too damn happy and not giving a fuck to notice. I’d say the only hits I got were that people were slightly more talkative with me. I can’t really tell you what is in the mix because I fucked up on the dosing when I added two of the ingredients. I don’t know exactly how much I added. I didn’t really test anything else. Had fun in Japan. Had some BOMB food, got really really drunk… which is why I had no money for anything else. = Japan is an expensive place. -\_-;; Getting piss drunk and ordering and eating a lot of food racks up a large bill. 3.50 for a can of beer! 4 dollars for a small slice of beef on a stick! haha but overall a great place. Japan also has some really pretty girls IMO. Korea, well… from what I’ve seen all the pretty girls had WAY too much make up on and lots of plastic surgery. Honestly, I can’t say I saw one naturally pretty girl while I was there. Plastic surgery there is so cheap, people come from China/Japan to get it done there. Make up and beauty products are everywhere and also dirt cheap, especially with their economy going down the shitter. Japan has got the most courteous and nicest citizens I’ve ever seen. I’ve been to China several times and every time, I come back saying China has the rudest mother fuckers in the world, but sadly, Korea has taken that title now. Literally, from the second I got off the plan until I left Korea, most people were really rude to me. I’m not kidding when I say that people went out of their way to be rude to me and my brother. Arrived at the airport around 3AM. It was pretty dead. First encounter with a korean lady… I was standing to the side. No one was around and she straight RAMS me with her cart. W T F ? When we’re leaving Korea at the airport, my bro and I ask the hosts where we order food, they pretty much snarl at us and point at the tables. We sit for 5 minutes, no service. 2 other parties arrive while we were waiting to be served, they get immediate service, menus AND their food and WE STILL HAVEN’T gotten our menus or even had our orders taken. Sat around for 15 minutes, still no service so we leave. My experience with MOST of Korea was similar to this. Sorry to all the Korean Americans, but mainland Korea and Koreans suck. I’d say over 80% of my friends are Korean, the HS I attended was 35% Korean and I have never ever seen such atrocious and despicable behavior in my life. Flame me if you want, but this is my journal and that was my experience. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/314 "2009-09-13T17:20:13Z")
Thanks for sharing the Asian adventures you have experienced. It seems that the high -none content in MX292 did not assist you in relating to asians. However, what about MX302? I would think 302 may be moderately successful as to me it appeared to be an “under the radar” pheromone. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/315 "2009-09-14T05:42:36Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > Thanks for sharing the Asian adventures you have experienced. > > It seems that the high -none content in MX292 did not assist you in relating to asians. However, what about MX302? I would think 302 may be moderately successful as to me it appeared to be an “under the radar” pheromone. I would agree with you that MX302 could be potentially good with Asians, but I did not test it out. I decided to spend 2 weeks with mostly [MX200](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx200/), 292 and A314. I brought a lot of extras just in case. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/316 "2009-10-01T03:40:06Z")
It’s been a while. I wonder if anyone really reads this. Anyhow, I got MEO-EST a day or so ago. Been dying to try this out for a year now. Pheromones used: MEO-EST @ 50mcg/spray (2.5ish sprays) Front of neck and back of neck MX200 (1 spray to front of neck) IG (1 spray to front of neck) MX292 (1 spray to front of neck) I added the 292 because I felt with MEO-EST, 200, and IG, it would come off a bit… soft. Got good results throughout the day. Girl I’m interested in was chattier then usual. Conversation just felt… better. It flowed better. I can’t really get a read on her or myself just yet, so we’ll see how that goes. Went to get a haircut and I gotta say, this was probably the best hit all day. Soon as I sit down, all conversation. She seemed really at ease. Conversation flowed very naturally. I’ve seen her several times before at the salon, but I’ve only had my hair cut once by her. My usual barber wasn’t there and I REALLY needed a haircut. Conversation jumped around a lot from food to whether or not I had a girlfriend. When I said no, she pressed a bit more and asked if there was a girl I was interested in at school. Here, I kinda hemmed and hawed a bit and said “sort of, there’s a girl I like but she doesn’t go to the same school as me.” She pressed more and I eventually told her where she worked and she knew exactly where she worked and who she was. I guess she goes there too. @\_@;; Anyhow, later in the day, I had to go to the lab where I assist in research. I just started research with this new doctor and I’ve really only contacted her through email. I had went in once before several months ago but arranged to start now when I had more free time. Before she seemed really off. Kept her distance, wasn’t terribly friendly and seemed to keep to herself. Her assistant? is a male and he also seemed a bit put off with me around. They also have another student assistant, she seemed much more open and interested in my presence the first time. I forget what I had on that day, but I’m pretty sure it was mostly socials and probably some -none. Today was MUCH different. All three in the lab were in a cheerful mood. The doctor came in and was much more open with me and our conversation was much more relaxed, no tension at all. The older male assistant was also very receptive and talkative. Honestly, it felt like the doctor and the assistant did a complete 180 from the first time I had contact with them months before. I’m pretty sure I didn’t have MX292 last time, so I wouldn’t be surprised if MX292 and/or the MEO-EST played a part in that. The younger student female assistant’s behavior didn’t seem to change too much. The only thing was her conversation with me seemed much less forced/nervous than the first time. First impression of this mix: The same single phrase keeps popping into my mind when I’m trying to describe things today: “flowed well” or something along those lines. You know those kind of awkward/nervous/forced moments in conversations, that stalled kinda awkward silence that occurs in conversations with strangers? None of that today. Well, one instance of that when I was talking with the girl I’m interested in and that was by me. In my defense, I was tired and wasn’t thinking. Even with MX292, IG and MX200, there are lots of instances of me feeling conversations could be uncomfortable or forced. With MEO-EST however, today just felt like everything was natural. Things just went “normal” if that makes any sense. That’s my initial impression of MEO-EST so far. Anyhow, hope everyone is doing well. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/317 "2009-10-02T05:16:46Z")
Uhhh… strange hit today. MEO-EST @ 50mcg, 1 spray to neck IG, 1 spray to neck Ran outta my first class cause I was hoping to find my friend to check my hw against hers because I don’t have a book for the next class. Had a whole bunch of things in my hands that I needed to put in my backpack. I stopped at a table in the hallway to my next class and there was a fairly attractive female just standing there. I didn’t really pay any attention to her, just put my backpack on the table, crammed my notebooks/papers in and when I looked up she just gave me a huge smile and just stared at me. Honestly, I was just taken aback and just smiled back and walked to my next class. Yeah, I know, I didn’t make the most of the situation but whatever. My grades are more important to me right now. -\_-;; ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/318 "2009-10-09T06:22:03Z")
Been thinking about a few things… was tempted to delete my posts and threads and this journal. Disappointed with the latest … going ons in the pheromone… “community.” A lot of friends I made here are no longer really around. I use to look forward to reading people’s journals, their experiences phero related or not. I’d wake up, check to see if anyone updated their journals/posts before class, and if I didn’t have time to read it, I’d rush home after class all excited to read them. My subscriptions list only contained like… 3 journals at first. Good all MID, Renny and Phya. Eventually I started browsing around and added more people to that list and it was really awesome to come home or wake up and see like 8 updates. Now, all those people are gone. I think I joined this community near the end of it’s peak and now, it really isn’t the same place it use to be. I don’t have to want to be worried about whether or not I’ll be censored, banned or spied upon. And I’m pretty sure I have been, but oh well… Decided to just leave it alone. I don’t think I’ll be posting much here anymore. Not till the rest of the friends I’ve made here are back and when I can truly feel safe around here. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/319 "2009-12-17T23:38:46Z")
MX353 Been using this the past couple of weeks. Not a fan of the smell. If this is the same mix as MX292, it seems much weaker than what I’ve seen in the past. It doesn’t seem to have the same strength as 292. Initially it felt like it was a complete dud, maybe it still is. To me it seems like a heavily watered down 292. The hits I had with this was always mixed with something else if I used it, leading me to believe that it was the other mones and not the 353. I’ve used it solo and nothing. Maybe I got a placebo or something but as far as I’m concerned 353 is just a mediocre smelling dud. I’ve got I think 2 more ToGos so I’ll try those when I get the chance. I’m glad I still have a bottle of MX292 that I “lost” in my bag. It’s like finding a 20 in your jeans… cept a lot better. MX138 Wow, really like this. Have you used [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)? Remember the first time you used it? This mix almost got me to that feeling when I first used IS. Self effects were great. I didn’t notice it till later, first 15-30 I didn’t notice anything but afterwards when I was around company (in retrospect), I felt really good. Friends were jovial and cheerful. This also seemed to lower some of my inhibitions a bit. Got me more talkative, heck, everyone more talkative. People just seemed to gather around us like we were magnets. Heck, in traffic I was ok. I have huge road rage when I see traffic. I HATE traffic so much, its almost irrational. Even then, I seemed more upbeat. Meeting new people with it seemed to make conversation much easier and after… maybe 5 minutes of exposure I had rapport with strangers. Anytime I wanted to be the center of attention, BAM, I just took it. Definitely a fun mix. MEO-EST Upon Steve’s advice of MEO-EST at lower dosages, I’ve been using it at 25mcg instead of 50mcg. It’s kind of hard to gauge the differences but the effects are still there. If anything, it saves me money from using too much. Think I might have to redo my testing of this molecule, try to get a better feel perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/320 "2010-04-18T03:33:58Z")
> **[Concentration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration)** > > In chemistry, concentration is the abundance of a constituent divided by the total volume of a mixture. Several types of mathematical description can be distinguished: mass concentration, molar concentration, number concentration, and volume concentration. The concentration can refer to any kind of chemical mixture, but most frequently refers to solutes and solvents in solutions. The molar (amount) concentration has variants, such as normal concentration and osmotic concentration. Dilution is Co... I came up with a mix calculator a while ago for free (2 years ago). Its really not hard to make mixes if you’ve got a good grasp on math and just common sense. FIRST OFF. If your TOTAL AMOUNT OF PHEROMONES IS X PER SPRAY, all of your **INDIVIDUAL** PHEROMONES MUST BE IN THAT X AMOUNT. What I mean is this. If you decide to make a mix, say: 10 mcg none 10 mcg p86 10 mcg TAA And you want ALL of that per spray Total is 30/ mcg PER spray correct? If that is the END result you want, you MUST have -none, P86 , and TAA in concentrations of 30 mcg /spray OR HIGHER. YOU CANNOT START WITH LOWER THAN 30 AND EXPECT IT TO BE MORE CONCENTRATED. IT DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS. Your amount that comes out of the bottle is SET, so are the ORIGINAL concentrations. The key here is that each spray is SET and so are the concentrations. Let’s set up 2 examples here. You buy the 3 components in 10 mcg / spray. You might think "All I have to do is put equal amounts and voila! I have my mix done. I get 10 mcg /spray of each one! WRONG. Let’s say each bottle sprays 1ml PER spray (not actual numbers, just a random easy number). So your 10mcg/spray will only have 10mcg per 1ml of spray right? You mixed in 1 ml of each component. Now you have 3ml total. 1 ml none, 1 ml taa , 1 ml P86 . We said earlier that each spray has 10mcg each right? So now you have 3 ml, and 30 mcg of pheromones, correct? But how do you get all of that out when you only have ONE SPRAY coming out of the bottle? Remember the bottle sprays 1ml. So to get ALL of that out, you need THREE sprays. So how much is in EACH spray? ONE THIRD. So you come down to 3.3 mcg / spray. NOT 10. 30 MCG , 3 SPRAYS. 1 SPRAY = 30mcg/3sprays = 10mcg TOTAL PHEROMONE PER SPRAY. So your 10 MCG total was made up of EQUAL amounts of none/ TAA /86. 10 MCG / 3 components = 3.3 or 3 1/3. Now, say you bought them at 30 mcg / spray. NOW you can add each at a 1:1:1 ratio. 1 ml of each gives you 3 ml TOTAL right? since each has 30 mcg , TOTAL MCG OF PHEROMONE IS 90 MCG. Since each spray is 1ml, you get 30 mcg total because all of the pheromones are in the same concentration. You have 3 ml total. You have 90 MCG of pheromones TOTAL. So EACH SPRAY = 90 MCG / 3 SPRAYS = 30 MCG PER PHEROMONE PER SPRAY. So since you have 3 different pheromones and 1 spray that has 30 MCG pheromones in it TOTAL, it is 30 MCG/3 = 10 MCG PER PHEROMONE PER SPRAY. The tricky part is when you want varying ratios of pheromones. For example: 5 mcg none 10 mcg TAA 15 mcg P86 TOTAL PHEROMONES: 30 MCG Say you happened to get them all in 30 mcg, what do you do? You take ratios. you have 30 mcg of none and have a TOTAL END PRODUCT of 30 mcg of PHEROMONES. This is good. 5/30 = 1/6 So out of the 3ml, 1/6 of that needs to be none. So you add 1/6 x 3ml of none = 1/2 ml 10mcg taa / 30 mcg phero = 1/3. 1/3 x 3ml = 1 ml of TAA 15mcg P86 / 30 mcg phero = 1/2. 1/2 x 3ml = 1.5 ml of P86 TOTAL AMOUNTS: 0.5 ml of NONE 1ml of TAA 1.5 ml of P86 TOTAL: 3ml That means each spray will spray ONE THIRD of the amount of EACH pheromone you put into it. And this changes with the amount of different pheros you put in. BOTTOM LINE: The concentration of the pheromone you want must be AT LEAST the amount of the TOTAL AMOUNT of pheromones. If your mix has a TOTAL PHEROMONE CONTENT OF 100MCG, YOU NEED CONCENTRATIONS OF EACH PHEROMONE IN AT LEAST 100MCG. The only way around this is if you can SOMEONE GET RID OF THE ALCOHOL IT IS DISSOLVED IN WITHOUT REMOVING THE PHEROMONES. IF YOU PLAN ON HEAVILY HEAVILY HEAVILY MAKING ALL MIXES OR REPLICATING MIXES, buy ALL your individual pheromones at high concentrations of get them in solid form to dissolve on your own. THERE IS NO WAY you can use a lower concentration and expect it to somehow concentrate itself per spray. Period. This is why in the store, the Ps and and experimones are recommended for advanced users. If you want to make your own mix, this is how you should start out. Come up with how much pheromone you want per spray. Make that list. x none y a- Androstenol etc. ADD THEM ALL UP. That is your TOTAL PHEROMONE content PER spray. Once you have that TOTAL pheromone content, your INDIVIDUAL pheromones must be AT LEAST that much. After that, its math. It only takes like 30 minutes to make a spreadsheet for this and you can enter as many pheromones as you want. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/321 "2010-04-19T15:54:50Z")
mmm, sample of what my mix sheet looks like. I used Snoopy’s numbers that he used for Steve’s mix. My required sprays comes out funny because I set this up thinking the mixer used a lower concentration or equal concentration in comparison to the original formula. I will try to make or edit a spreadsheet later on that will consider higher concentrations and this kind of situation: “I want to make Steve’s mix. But I only want to make 5ml to fit in a ToGo and I want it to be 3x the original strength, what do I need to add?” ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/b/b3b4a42746ac0d29a5edbb9f0a0ebf04bf23dc70.png) [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947.md?page=15) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947.md?page=17)