# Let's go on an adventure **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [March 13, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947 "2008-03-13T01:34:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/61 "2008-05-02T05:19:48Z")
So do you think you’re still as dense as iridium? Or are you getting it more now? 😛 😃 Get to know Ammo more, and let us know..I’m curious. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/62 "2008-05-03T02:38:04Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Nice journal…I like your reports zeph…and the poetry. 😉 🙂 Dunno if you’re being sarcastic, but it’s the lyrics to a song. . . here in your arms. . . by hello goodbye. https://www.youtube.com/embed/9YfobabpB3s?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque Funny thing is that he’s not a good singer in real life at all. In all (most) of his songs, his voice is processed by a vocoder that alters the psychoacoustic properties so that it matches the note you wanted to hit. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/63 "2008-05-03T03:04:19Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > _ **Dunno if you’re being sarcastic** _, but it’s the lyrics to a song. . . here in your arms. . . by hello goodbye. No sarcasm here Eldros…zeph knows me better than that. 🙂 Nice to know they’re lyrics to songs. I thought he was a poet…along with being a sexy smart guy. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/64 "2008-05-03T03:43:44Z")
heh, didn’t think it was sarcasm. I was going to post back to bella that they were song lyrics once I had a new phero post to put up. yeah, hellogoodbye is kinda a mix of electronic with rock. All my posts that end with small font are just song lyrics. Ends with the artist and the song title. Just songs that I kinda like. I wish I were a poet, or sexy, or smart. LOL! And yeah, Phya, still dense as hell. I can be dense around women, but its amplified by like 100 if I start to like them. xD Anyhow, been using AMMO, will post results later if its worth posting. IT’S FRIDAY GUYS! Have a great weekend. =D ---
**Author:** ![chris\_shine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chris_shine/32/1557_2.png) [@chris\_shine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chris_shine)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/65 "2008-05-03T06:07:39Z")
Have you tried Turn Up the Heat with asian girls? I wonder if it is appropriate for targeting asain girls in 20’s. Also I wonder Ammo and Instant gentleman should not be used in combo. I am an asian in late 20’s. I have ordered Ammo, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Turn up the heat and MX105 but I am not sure if I have ideal combination of pheromones for working on asian chicks. It seems that MX200 works well on asian chicks but it is not available anymore (out of stock). ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/66 "2008-05-03T08:55:32Z")
> [@chris\_shine](#): > > Have you tried Turn Up the Heat with asian girls? I wonder if it is appropriate for targeting asain girls in 20’s. Also I wonder Ammo and Instant gentleman should not be used in combo. I am an asian in late 20’s. I have ordered Ammo, Instant Gentleman, Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Turn up the heat and MX105 but I am not sure if I have ideal combination of pheromones for working on asian chicks. It seems that MX200 works well on asian chicks but it is not available anymore (out of stock). I have not tried TUTH on asian girls yet. I use ammo which has the same amount of -none. The difference between AMMO and TUTH is the buffering. AMMO is meant to be friendlier than TUTH. TUTH is a more raw sexual feeling. I have a bottle of TUTH, but have yet to try it. The reason I used IG with AMMO was to buffer the AMMO. I’m not too sure how it worked because I only used that combo like twice, but the times I used it, I seemed to get pretty decent hits and minor IOIs. I’m trying to save up some money so I can test out a mix I want to make that is focused primarily for Asian females. I have a few different recipes that might work, but as the saying goes… the best laid plans of mice and men often go astray. As for [MX200](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx200/), I check the availability of MX200 and MX103 every day, at least 2-3 times a day. As soon as it’s back, it will probably be low on stock or out cause I’ll probably be ordering 8 of em. LOL. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/67 "2008-05-07T01:01:08Z")
Mmm… AMMO and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is amazing. First, let me say that I didn’t START with this combo around the girls I’m around. I did a lot of just gentleman since I got it. Mixed some Shine and CTTM with it. The Gentleman helped me attract attention and the AMMO + Gentleman just ramped it up once they knew me. LOTS more flirting and things just seem to move faster. Like a catalyst. My dose is IGx4, AMMOx2, 2.5ish. Usually to neck and top of wrists. I noticed things went from friendly to flirty when AMMO was added to Instant Gentleman. One girl who describes herself as shy became friendlier with Instant Gentleman + CTTM + Shine on. After I got to know her a little, able to tease her or flirt a little with her, I was using only Gentleman. When I used IG + AMMO, things got a lot more flirty and a lot more IOIs. Same goes for her friend, who unfortunately has a BF, but that doesn’t seem to stop her from being flirty as hell. Just wish I were taller cause the shy one is real cute, damn my shortness! WHY AM I A SUCKER FOR QUIET GIRLS? Anyhow, what I mean by flirty, lots more IOIs, playing/twirling with hair. One day after class, both of them approached me with the whole giggly, teehee thing that girls do and were complimenting me on how “smart I sounded” when I answered a question that my professor asked. Only really answered cause he’s the type to keep asking it till someone answers. Also, for the shy girl, she seems more physical which seems kinda out of character for her. Another girl in one of my classes took a while to warm up to me. But even though it took longer, it seems more… well don’t know how to describe it, but not as raw, not as “omg you are hot” but more like “lets get to know each other.” This might also be because of how she’s raised. I’d say very conservative and “innocent” or mainly uncorrupted, lololol. Seems she’s been sheltered or in a bubble from the things that parents these days don’t want their kids to know about. In her case, doesn’t know anything about drugs, literally NOTHING. Very little on sex as well. Then again, she might just be pretending, who knows? Anyhow, the stuff that you’ll want to know. Shy girl: white, 18 BF girl: chinese, 19 other girl: chinese, 18 yes, it does suck that I’m like 5 years older. And yes, I’m aware it makes me a bad bad person. But I wouldn’t care if I were taller. Shy girl is just too cute. Oh and sitting under the vent or AC in a classroom does wonders. 🙄 The more I use AMMO buffered, the more reason I have to believe that Asians do react well to it. I also find the same thing Phya seems to be experiencing among the more hardcore Asians. What I mean is, those who are really true to their culture and less Americanized. The whole Korean fob ring in my school which makes up like 20% of the school’s population (or at least 20% of the population in bio/chem) is hard to break. Hard to be friendly with them, they keep to themselves. But the ones that I am friendly with… all two of em, one of them reacted really well the other day when I was under the AC and she was probably getting blasted with by my pheros. Again, this one has a BF too. Too bad too cause she’s cute. I’m thinking of trying maybe IMF or something. Cause the girls in the fob ring are stone cold to pretty much everyone unless you have status. Like if you can change their grade, if you have the test or quiz, etc. Up next… hmm I don’t know. I think I’m losing that whole “wheeee let’s try everything” feeling and going more towards a “let’s find something INTERESTING.” I might do SteveO’s mix… cause like Phya said, never know what freaks there might be at these crazy conservative schools. In a field outside of town we could always be alone Carry a blanket maybe a basket - and that’s it Innocence was the key I was locked up never free Until you turned me Like vines we intertwined Carelessly growing up and growing old Life was on our tongues And it tasted heavenly so good I wake up and I feel alone I was just asleep Right where I belong Inside this sad, sad song I knew this was a dream it was too good to be true Coincidences were a bit much too Who wants to wake up? Who wants to lose it? Who wants to live in this place? I don’t, so I’ll be sleeping in Blankets here keep me from cold Holding tightly my pillow Frantically searching for her Inside my head she’s somewhere She is somewhere I wake up and I feel alone I was just asleep Right where I belong Inside this sad, sad song The Hush Sound, _We Intertwined_ ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/68 "2008-05-14T00:11:04Z")
Haven’t been around much, just my usual quick glance at the first page of the forums, checking a journal or two real quick. School has been kicking my ass. I’m going to post my review of Gentleman as I’ve been using it for almost a month now. Self effects: I’m usually a very impulsive type of guy. Acts before he thinks kinda guy which leads me to say or do things that I regret almost instantly. Now, I’ve been actively and consciously trying to stop doing that so maybe thats why I don’t attribute [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) to the slow, calm, “let’s chill” kinda mood I seem to have been in while wearing it. The only time this effect gets nullified is when I’m high off Red Bull or AMMO. The heart racing, heart attack, LET’S FUCK SOME SHIT UP feeling is toned down with Instant Gentleman though. It also seems to clear my head, not in a focus kind of way, but in a more relaxed, “let’s take this in” kind of way. Effect on others: Now, I find that this kinda varies depending on who the target was and how they were raised. What I mean by that is if they’ve been in the US, are they Americanized, how social they are, etc. Among the… more normal, people, it gave off a more approachable vibe to those who weren’t so introverted. Not saying only extroverted people would approach me, but it seemed to be less effective on introverts until they get to know you. Almost like the intimidation vibe that’s described from A314, but more of a social intimidation, not so much respect. However, I noticed once you broke down an introvert, they warmed up pretty fast. Generally, it gives you a “who’s THAT guy” kinda feel to it. Like there’s something about that guy, who is he? type feel. I’m not sure how many of you are familiar with Asian culture or cultural cliques, but at my school there is a huge ring or clique of Korean “fobs.” They generally keep to themselves, don’t really talk to anyone, and if they HAVE to, its usually with another Asian. I found that Instant Gentleman doesn’t really affect them. I think the who “cool” thing is a social creation based on where and how they lived. Most of them recently immigrated from Korea, so the whole “who is cool” thing is relative. Even the Chinese fobs don’t seem to react positively to it. This isn’t to say that IG creates a negative reaction, it just doesn’t seem to produce a positive one. Length of time: I found that it lasts for at least a good 3 hours, more like 4. After that it seems to drop extremely fast. The weather around here lately has been warming up, but while I tested it, weather has been anywhere from 70s-low90s. Mixes with other products: I’ve tried this with AMMO, Shine, Come Talk To Me Mix 2, Openness, IMF, SteveO’s mix. With AMMO: Like I’ve said before, it just seems to enhance it in a more sexual vibe. The cool factor is still there, it just enhances it to give you an added “mmm mmmm MMM! who’s that guy?” I noticed I got slightly more blatant hits, a little more interest from complete strangers. Shine: Enhances the cool effect, really not much else. Come Talk To Me Mix 2: Huh, how to describe this with IG. It kinda seems to override the IG sometimes. It just makes EVERYONE want to talk. Its more directed to everyone, so from my experience with Come Talk To Me Mix 2, its like a fun kinda phero, like how people describe spaceland, but not so crazy. With all that talk, the social spam kinda kills your cool factor, but if its in a smaller setting, like maybe 3-4 people, you can still be the center of attention. Openness: Similar to CTTM2, but not as strong. I used x1 strength though. SteveO’s mix: Similar to AMMO, but it seems more blatant but at the same time just as friendly. Don’t know what it is, but it seems to get females more interested, definitely got more IOIs from girls than AMMO, but it was mostly from females that were not strangers. People who have talked to me or knew who I was. I used IMF once with gentleman, but I don’t think it was very effective. No noticeable results around the females I was with. The more I try IMF, the more I’m going to have to agree with Gegogi about how its really only good for females while they’re on their period, had a long day, or are really stressed. Overall: Really great product. I think the whole “Gentleman” title throws it off. If this was 10 years ago, Gentleman would be perfect, but with today’s view, when someone says Gentleman, it doesn’t reflect a cool vibe. Sure, the mature and older is there, but for some reason I don’t think “cool” is associated with gentleman. The “who is that guy” vibe certainly doesn’t describe a gentleman and that may be why it’s overlooked. Has the same neroli scent as Instant Shine which I love. It works well as a base as far as I can tell. I used it once with A314 and depending on who I was with, either got respect like “wow, he looks important/busy” to respect like you would give to a peer or colleague (like my professor seeing me as a peer and less of a student). My dosage: Started off at 1 spray for 2 days, 2 sprays for 2 days, 3 sprays for 2 days, 4 sprays for 1. I really like the results with 3 sprays and played around at 3, 3.5 and 4 sprays. 3.5 seems like the best, 4 doesn’t do too much more and may just be a waste. AMMO, the most I used was 2.5, but whenever I used it, it was usually 1.5 or 2 sprays. Location of IG is almost always my throat and the top of my arms. 2 to throat 2 to arms. The rest of the tested products was to hair, SteveO’s mix was to neck, covered by IG and neroli perfumer’s oil. Hope this helps anyone who is interested in the product. You pretty much have Renny and Bosshank to thank if you found it useful, because I only tested this out because of my respect for those two and their request for younger guys to try it out. Otherwise I would have probably stuck to AMMO and A314. MX102, 105, 200 are on their way in addition to Honesty 4x. Never tried Honesty, period, so I think that will be interesting. I talk enough shit around my friends so I’m gonna have to constantly tell myself to STFU while drinking warm glasses of STFU and eating a STFU sandwich while wearing it. Fight all the while Fight 'til I think I’m free Feel rains we never see Beautiful secret lives Oh, smile, smile in a day Fear takes its place at night Oh, oh, I’m pretty in the rain I love your secret life I could leave you well enough alone Believe and you’ll be overcome and gone By grace away Better off than if I stayed I could leave you well enough alone Believe and you’ll be overcome and gone By grace away Better off than if I stayed I could leave you walk away We’ll save it for another day Through all the wars I’ve come to know It’s punches pulled, not towels thrown in When they come knocking on your heart’s door Choose the one who loves you more And when you’ve found something to die for (Make you face all your fears) They’ll be knocking on your heart’s door (Make you face all your fears) When they come knocking on your heart’s door (Make you face all your fears) Choose the one who loves you more (Make you face all your fears) And when you’ve found something to die for (Make you face all your fears) They’ll be knocking on your heart’s door (Make you face all your fears) When they come knocking on your heart’s door (Make you face all your fears) Choose the one who loves you more (Make you) _Copeland, Choose the one who loves you more_ ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/69 "2008-05-14T00:49:51Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > Just wish I were taller cause the shy one is real cute, damn my shortness! WHY AM I A SUCKER FOR QUIET GIRLS? Nothing wrong with that. Why is your height a limitation with the shy girl though? Go for it! 18 is legal. 😉 > [@zeph](#): > > MX102, 105, 200 are on their way in addition to Honesty 4x. Never tried Honesty, period, so I think that will be interesting. I talk enough shit around my friends so I’m gonna have to constantly tell myself to STFU while drinking warm glasses of STFU and eating a STFU sandwich while wearing it. Dude?! Seriously? [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is THA SHIZZLE!! 😃 I’m not that kinky…oh, ok, maybe a bit 🙄…but you might need a ball gag with IH 4X on..😮 ---
**Author:** ![omphalos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/49beb7/32.png) [@omphalos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omphalos)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/70 "2008-05-14T03:32:12Z")
That was a very thorough and well written report on [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) Zeph; your post should be linked in [Mens Pheromone Guide revised 6/15](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168) > [@Phya](#): > > but you might need a ball gag with Instant Honesty 4X on I’m also a bit worried about you diving head first into IH 4x. You’ve got balls though! ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/72 "2008-05-14T17:26:03Z")
> [@omphalos](#): > > That’s a very thorough and well written report on Instant Gentleman, Zeph; it should be linked in [Tisha’s Men’s Pheromone guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168). > > I’m also a bit worried about you jumping head first into ih 4X. I’ve got to give it to you though, you’ve got guts! ah, I’m not gutsy… I just have read so much about Honesty x4. I ordered shine x1 first, loved it so much I bought shine x2 before finishing shine x1. I figure I might as well go x4, take the risk and save some money in the long run. I’m just gonna have to remember to shut up, resist the urge to blab. =/ ---
**Author:** ![omphalos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/49beb7/32.png) [@omphalos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omphalos)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/73 "2008-05-14T17:29:45Z")
I’ll eagerly await your reports with it, not to mention the [MX200](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx200/) tests. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/74 "2008-05-14T17:37:37Z")
yeah, I think I’m gonna test [MX200](https://a314.com/product/mx200/) first. I’m HOPING to test it at church, where its pretty much ALL asians. I’m trying to find a new church around where I am cause my old one is an hour away. That also means I can test at both locations (if I feel like spending 25 dollars to go to church ☹ ) and see how it affects people that know me and Asians who have no idea who I am. I also want to see if it breaks down that social barrier among Asians that aren’t as Americanized, aka “fobs.” I also hear MX105 and honesty works well so it might be tricky getting results from new people if I’ve already been testing MX200 around them. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/75 "2008-05-15T03:37:21Z")
Ok, I had NO intention of reporting this cause I felt I didn’t get results… but something interesting happened. Products: Application was around 1:30PM A314x3: 1.5 drops to each forearm, top of arm. (I use to apply to the underneath but realized that it’s most likely to rub against clothes and probably rub off the pheros). Let it dry for about 10 minutes then applied 4x neroli perfumer’s oil. 2:30PM MX203x3 1.5 sprays to each forearm, top side. Went to class and saw shy girl there. We ended up waiting outside our class because the doors were locked. She ended up standing/sitting closer to me than normal. I just attributed it to the fact that there wasn’t really much room to sit/stand where we were. We ended up sitting on the ground just chit chatting. Had a really shitty day so I ended up leaving class early and going home to take a nap. I didn’t really notice any hits and the A314 seemed slightly toned down. It was probably due to the bad mood I was in and me not being congruent to the A314. The only thing was people gave me a little more room. So why the hell am I reporting this? Cause just a few minutes ago, shy girl texted me saying I smelled good today. 😮 That was extremely random and really out of character for her. I’m definitely going to say that while [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) doesn’t repel non-caucasians, it definitely rocks for attracting caucasians. I personally find the smell of MX203 rather fruity. Not like gay fruity, but fruit fruity. Smells really sweet, almost sickly sweet. Going to try this combo again tomorrow and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![omphalos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/49beb7/32.png) [@omphalos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omphalos)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/76 "2008-05-15T04:19:25Z")
Good delayed effect there. Although it seemed you had a stronger hit with the same girl when using [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) + ammo. Or maybe it’s been accumulating. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/77 "2008-05-15T04:23:23Z")
> [@omphalos](#): > > Good delayed effect there. Although it seemed you had a stronger hit with the same girl when using Instant Gentleman + ammo. Or maybe it’s been accumulating. I think the IG + AMMO worked really well, but not on the shy girl as well as the other girls. And I think it you may be right about the accumulating. I don’t really have “game,” I just tend to do a little flirting, and take things slow, cause when I rush with girls, I tend to crash and burn due to the lack of game. You bringing up IG + AMMO makes me want to try it again to see what reactions I get from her. Oh my, so many things to try. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![omphalos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/49beb7/32.png) [@omphalos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omphalos)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/78 "2008-05-15T05:00:56Z")
Personally, I don’t think “the game” is all that it’s cranked up to be, at least not for meaningful LTR. It may get you quick/more results, but relationships not based on a deeper connection between two people are bound not to last very long. Of course, the pheromones are important in bringing you close enough and giving you the opportunity to work on strengthening that connection. Right, I’m quickly finding out that the more mones you have the harder it becomes to decide what combinations to try. Even after I’ve decided to stick with the socials and leave -none out… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/79 "2008-05-15T07:05:42Z")
The Game is a book. Having social skills is the premise behind the book, and that my friend is the only thing that will get you a LTR. ---
**Author:** ![omphalos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/49beb7/32.png) [@omphalos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omphalos)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/80 "2008-05-15T07:12:07Z")
I don’t have anything against the book, Steve, I haven’t even read it. I was referring to Zeph’s generic “game” reference and inadvertently added “the” in front of it. Apologies for the misunderstanding. I do agree social skills are paramount, the book notwithstanding, although LTRs are certainly possible without them being honed. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/81 "2008-05-15T17:01:05Z")
No need to apologize my friend, I wasn’t trying to sound critical I was just tired and the last post of the night usually suffers from lack of SteveO humor.🙂 Actually I have never read the book either. Game however is social skills, but most guys think its about getting laid. It’s not, it’s about creating an identity and building your social skills to improve your life. The limited thinkers will always be limited in thinking, but those who are truly aware will soar and become the man every one else aspires to be. Unfortunately now-a-days whenever something is associated with negative connotations most of society sees the entire aspect as negative. Call game, social awareness and everybody is OK with it, call it game and all we can think of is Ross J and his speed seduction. It’s really in the way we apply what we have that makes us the difference. 😛 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947.md?page=5)