# Let's revisit Coolkats date mixes and tweak it **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 29, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876 "2013-04-29T17:27:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/1 "2013-04-29T17:27:55Z")
Coolkat had posted this many moons ago.. I think it stands relevant and he has USED this successfully on young white women through opening to close. So without further adue: Coolkat: "**No, when I first meet girls, I use 1 x ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) + 2.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/)) + 2x IS + 2x IO ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) . Young girls REALLY dig this mix. Works well socially and with first dates, esp with girls in their 20’s.** **The following meeting, I change over to 1x ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) + 2.5 p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/)) + 2x IS + 1x IO ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) + 1x CTTM2 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) (EDIT: I put in the following since CTTM is no longer available 2 IO, 2 IH)** **Then for the next meet-up, I switch to 1x ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) + 2.5 p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/)) + 2x IS + 2x IH ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)) . The last one works well with the girls that have some comfort level with you. Their feeling of connectedness and rapport with IH ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)) is justified, which makes them more open both emotionally and sexually.** \*\*When you know it is really on, go with 1 xTUTH + 2.5 **[mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/))** or 1x **ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/))** + 2x **IH ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/))** + 1x IS. \*\* **Remember to go from IO ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) -\> CTTM ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) -\> IH ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)) with each meeting. Throwing in p83 ([Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p83/)) in there too at the end. It should be useful when closing "** **I think we have a definite plan for young ones now. Its been used with success from opening to sexual closes by coolkat it it works on college girls , caucasions, 20 somethings. The exact girls I’m targeting.** Notice: In all his mixes he’s using very little p75, very little ammo, and very little socials, and for sex very little tuth. Its tamed down so that youngsters don’t OD. My only concern is the ammo.. For those over 35, is 1 spray really enough? How would the exact mixes fair with 2 sprays ammo? Comments? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/2 "2013-05-01T22:22:47Z")
I am flatter to know that you are still talking about me, lol. I need to reorder all my mones as they are gone ☹ > [@dsouza](#): > > Coolkat had posted this many moons ago.. I think it stands relevant and he has USED this successfully on young white women through opening to close. > > So without further adue: > Coolkat: > "**No, when I first meet girls, I use 1 x ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) + 2.5 mcg ([Microgram - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram))p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/)) + 2x IS + 2x IO ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) . Young girls REALLY dig this mix. Works well socially and with first dates, esp with girls in their 20’s.** > > **The following meeting, I change over to 1x ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) + 2.5 p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/)) + 2x IS + 1x IO ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) + 1x CTTM2 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) (EDIT: I put in the following since CTTM is no longer available 2 IO, 2 IH)** > > **Then for the next meet-up, I switch to 1x ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) + 2.5 p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/)) + 2x IS + 2x IH ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)) . The last one works well with the girls that have some comfort level with you. Their feeling of connectedness and rapport with IH ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)) is justified, which makes them more open both emotionally and sexually.** > > \*\*When you know it is really on, go with 1 xTUTH + 2.5 **mcg ([Microgram - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram))p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/))** or 1x **ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/))** + 2x **IH ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/))** + 1x IS. \*\* > **Remember to go from IO ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) -\> CTTM ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) -\> IH ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)) with each meeting. Throwing in p83 ([Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p83/)) in there too at the end. It should be useful when closing "** > > **I think we have a definite plan for young ones now. Its been used with success from opening to sexual closes by coolkat it it works on college girls , caucasions, 20 somethings. The exact girls I’m targeting.** > > Notice: In all his mixes he’s using very little p75, very little ammo, and very little socials, and for sex very little tuth. Its tamed down so that youngsters don’t OD. > > My only concern is the ammo.. For those over 35, is 1 spray really enough? How would the exact mixes fair with 2 sprays ammo? > Comments? ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/3 "2013-05-02T00:46:05Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > I am flatter to know that you are still talking about me, lol. I need to reorder all my mones as they are gone ☹ You know your mix is really a staple of the p75 line. Over the past several months the p75 ammo plus socials mixes have become the talk of the town.. I especially like how you showed how to progress it from date to date instead of just showing a one hit wonder. BTW what do **YOU think** about **ammo dosage** in your mix for a **35-40 year old man** on younger women (20’s)? Would you use 2 sprays with 1 spray p75 (2.5 mcg) or do you think that would be too much none for most settings (non club or bar venue)? Gotta load up on mones man.. I put a budget of $100 aside every month for mones 🙂 I can’t live without them anymore. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/4 "2013-05-02T14:47:26Z")
I think we should revisit lots of mixes. Maybe there’s no [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/), but I’m thinking you could probably get 4 TOGO’s of 12.5 each P75, TAC, -eNone and P83 and just mix them together. Does P83 really have pull at only 5 mcg per spray in mixes? It only worked for me layered at 37.5. > [@ICM 1a and 1b Night](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-1a-and-1b-night/48857): > > Been a while since I posted so here is one night’s adventures: Myself: Mid 40’s, Athletic, Married What: 3 sprays of Steve’s ICM 1a mix (Blue Bottle) 2 sprays of Steves ICM 1b mix (Blue Bottle) Both around upper chest, lower neck, a touch on wrists and back of neck Mrs. BH and I go out for the evening: dinner, music, dancing … you know the drill. We go to one place we hit fairly often where they play live music. The music is good but it tends to be the same although sometimes they do surpr… ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/5 "2013-05-04T01:31:16Z")
When I see my target on Sunday I am going in with: **The following meeting, I change over to 1x ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) + 2.5 p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/)) + 2x IS + 1x [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) + 1x Come Talk To Me Mix 2 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) (EDIT: I put in the following since CTTM is no longer available 2 Instant Openness, 2 Instant Honesty)** I have decided on a minimalist formula not to risk scaring off the target or coming across as too powerful, sexual etc at this stage. My question is where to best apply the mones.. EXACTLY. For example I’m used to applying shine and p75 and ammo straight to the front of my neck , and 3 IO to left of neck and 2 IH to right. However, I’m starting to think this is a bad idea. If I’m sitting down which I will be when I go into eat target will be standing up and serving me from time to time and facing ONE of my sides. Thus she may only get the IO vibe or the IH vibe.. Either way it may be too pulling in one direction. I want her to get an even dose of all my mones.. What should I do? I could layer everything on the front of my neck but it seems like overkill. Its going to be warm 20 degress celcius.. I was thinking of applying to forearms but no good I don’t talk with my hands. Any suggestions.. I’ll be wearing a t shirt. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/6 "2013-05-04T02:54:05Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > When I see my target on Sunday I am going in with: > **The following meeting, I change over to 1x ammo ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) + 2.5 p75 ([Experimental Pheromone P75 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p75/)) + 2x IS + 1x Instant Openness ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) + 1x Come Talk To Me Mix 2 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) (EDIT: I put in the following since CTTM is no longer available 2 Instant Openness, 2 Instant Honesty)** > > I have decided on a minimalist formula not to risk scaring off the target or coming across as too powerful, sexual etc at this stage. > > My question is where to best apply the mones.. EXACTLY. > > For example I’m used to applying shine and p75 and ammo straight to the front of my neck , and 3 IO to left of neck and 2 IH to right. > > However, I’m starting to think this is a bad idea. If I’m sitting down which I will be when I go into eat target will be standing up and serving me from time to time and facing ONE of my sides. Thus she may only get the IO vibe or the IH vibe.. Either way it may be too pulling in one direction. > > I want her to get an even dose of all my mones.. What should I do? I could layer everything on the front of my neck but it seems like overkill. > > Its going to be warm 20 degress celcius.. I was thinking of applying to forearms but no good I don’t talk with my hands. > > Any suggestions.. I’ll be wearing a t shirt. I don’t think it will make a difference which side of you she stands on, your cloud will mix together just fine neroli is an excellent diffuser, you could spray your whole mix in an empty to go, leave over night for it to mix together and then cover the whole of your neck. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/7 "2013-05-04T05:12:47Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > I don’t think it will make a difference which side of you she stands on, your cloud will mix together just fine neroli is an excellent diffuser, you could spray your whole mix in an empty to go, leave over night for it to mix together and then cover the whole of your neck. Unfortunately opened togos don’t ship to canada. I am stuck with sealed ones. I would be grateful if someon would donate a couple of their used open togos to me if they don’t need them… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/8 "2013-05-05T14:33:26Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Unfortunately opened togos don’t ship to canada. I am stuck with sealed ones. I would be grateful if someon would donate a couple of their used open togos to me if they don’t need them… > > 🙄 Just remove the sticker and the sealed becomes open. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 9:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/10 "2013-05-06T09:33:55Z")
Or these mixes are useless and you don’t need as many sprays since AD already has it in optimal range and since everything is more expensive why would you just throw everything on your skin that you can think of? ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/11 "2013-05-06T14:44:15Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Or these mixes are useless and you don’t need as many sprays since AD already has it in optimal range and since everything is more expensive why would you just throw everything on your skin that you can think of? Sorry for butting in but which response was your reply referring to? ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-revisit-coolkats-date-mixes-and-tweak-it/58876/13 "2013-05-06T22:59:18Z")
> [@anon13543563](#): > > What do you think about using this on young, ASIAN girls? Lower the dosage, or no cigar? Personally I think young asian girls would be better targeted by something like IS, IG (AD) , (or SOE /EDGE – different vendor). The mix I posted from Coolkat is more for caucasion girls (20’s)