# Let's talk DIRTY! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 21, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215 "2006-03-21T21:39:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/1 "2006-03-21T21:39:50Z")
Who has it? Who uses it? What’s it done for you? I am curious why it’s not more popular and talked about. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/2 "2006-03-21T21:50:21Z")
I have it..its a slower releasing long lasting [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). basically an oil-based/dropper version of Instant Jerk. I’d go with Instant Jerk instead. For what these products are aimed for you want a more rapid diffusive Anone, which IJ does, because its in a different fixative. These products are aimed at getting the bad girls…one-night stand type women. Best places for these are at night clubs and bars. Use with caution you can OD easily on these. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/3 "2006-03-22T05:02:47Z")
I understand IJ is 15mcg of NONE… no kidding. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/4 "2006-03-22T06:49:17Z")
I think Jasmin said it was 12.5mcg anone/spray and the rest of it was copulins and fixatives..tweaks. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/5 "2006-03-23T06:23:44Z")
Hm. Well that still sounds enough like a none od for me that it’s probably not a good idea. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/6 "2006-03-23T06:32:27Z")
yeah..its to attract the wild bad girls ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/7 "2006-03-23T06:55:12Z")
So how well does it work? ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/8 "2006-03-23T19:02:49Z")
I haven’t had a chance to use IJ, but I feel dirty would work best in hot regions where your body temp makes this oil based version release faster into the air. I OD easily on Anone I believe..but see Im not really trying to attract one night stands either. Generally you don’t want to go over 20mcg of Anone. ---
**Author:** ![iGN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@iGN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iGN)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/9 "2006-12-18T11:31:30Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > I haven’t had a chance to use Instant Jerk, but I feel dirty would work best in hot regions where your body temp makes this oil based version release faster into the air. I OD easily on Androstenone I believe..but see Im not really trying to attract one night stands either. Generally you don’t want to go over 20mcg of Androstenone. I received DIRTY quite recently, and I’m also curious why it’s not discussed more (except in the women’s advice-forum). This thread is pretty old, any MEN had any new experiences with it since the last time? From the extremely short description in the store, I’m not even sure how much to start with. Anyone have a ballpark figure of how much -none is in there? I think I read in another thread that it contained 10mcg per drop. Is this correct? Does it have anything to balance out the -nones, or does this mean that two drops is an “absolute” maximum (since 20mcg is the recommended -none-ceiling)? Anyway, I’m planning on doing the recommended “one drop each day for a week” and then escalate slowly (as slowly as one can possibly escalate from one to two drops). I have a bunch of products I should test this way, but I guess DIRTY is as good a place to start as any. (I’m REALLY trying to attract ONS’es. 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/10 "2006-12-18T12:02:44Z")
It’s not discussed here often because it contains copulins - a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) ONLY naturally produced by women, which often has counter-productive effects when men use it. When a WOMAN wears strong copulins, it is scientifically-proven that within 20 minutes max. of a male encountering her, his testosterone level WILL spike up approx 130% from baseline. Cops are a fail-safe when women use them to attract men, and want animalistic sexual encounters - not so when men use them, and it is a very much hit-and-miss scenario for men. There is an absolute plethora of info on cops and how they work (or do not, as the case may be often for men) for both genders in the women’s forum, so take the time to go through the threads there, and you will soon get a much better idea of how they can work for you. Most of the guys here looking for something for casual pick-ups, use TUTH or Raw Power. Remember, with Androtics’ fantastic guarantee, if you find it simply doesn’t work for you in the way you wanted it to, use the return form and have them send you something more appropriate to your needs. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iGN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@iGN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iGN)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 12:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/11 "2006-12-18T12:47:04Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Most of the guys here looking for something for casual pick-ups, use Turn Up The Heat or Raw Power. Remember, with Androtics’ fantastic guarantee, if you find it simply doesn’t work for you in the way you wanted it to, use the return form and have them send you something more appropriate to your needs. Thanks for the information! I’m relatively new to pheromones, at least trying to apply them in a controlled fashion. I’ve used A314 and Primal Instinct earilier as I wrote in my introduction. In 2004 I had an experience using copulins I will not soon forget. I’ve written it up as a “field report” I’m hosting here: [http://www.ignosaurus.com/Translation/translation.html](http://www.ignosaurus.com/Translation/translation.html) (It’s really an entry from my secret diary which I translated in response to someone in the PUA community questioning the effect of pheromones.) If you read the report, you’ll see it’s not really a “hit report”, it’s an amazing frickin’ HIT PARADE. It was a crazy evening. To me it totally obliterated any doubt I might have had that pheromones really work. Also, seeing how the mix I was wearing was quite heavy(?) on copulins (using both the soap as a shampoo and full body, which I really liked, and the PCC roll) and -none (with two drops of Primal Instinct), DIRTY is obviously something that’s immediately interesting for me, especially because of the copulins. If I could reproduce that effect every night, I’d quit my day job. I always had trouble reproducing it, tho. My guess is that it’s partially the problem of dosing PI (I have a shipment containing RAW on the way), and the strange circumstances that day, with lots of time spent outdoors in the sunlight before effects became apparent. I do have other products (TUTH, Heavy Ammo, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)/Openness, P79, and on the way: CTTM2, IFM and RAW), and I have seen a number of “hits” the last couple of weeks working with different mixes of these, anything from being asked to leave from four different public places (3 bars and one restaurant) in one Monday evening (even though there was alcohol involved, this is extremely unusual) to very large, flirtatous smiles from the help at the local grocery store, to a girl licking my neck in the bar. But I’m especially interested in DIRTY because of the copulins, the fact that very few men seem to post reports on it and the shop-page has very little info. 😉 I intend to spend some time with it, I’m even wearing it now at work in an office environment, and will keep upping the amount used until I see noticable effects. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/12 "2006-12-18T14:39:56Z")
iGN, what were you wearing when you were asked to leave the 3 bars and restaurant? You say alcohol was involved … was it your behavior that got you asked to leave? ---
**Author:** ![iGN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@iGN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iGN)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/13 "2006-12-18T14:55:27Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > iGN, what were you wearing when you were asked to leave the 3 bars and restaurant? You say alcohol was involved … was it your behavior that got you asked to leave? I’m quite sure it was a heavy -none OD, affecting me, my brother (who I was with at the time) and people around us, not to my/our advantage. I was also using large amounts of IS. Both with a build-up from Sunday Night, without really showering. All in the name of science and fun, of course. My behavior under alcohol influence is usually not enough to make people ask me leave an establishment. I estimate it has happened twice the last 10 years (excluding the beforementioned Monday, a Monday both me and my brother will remember fondly and cherish forever 🙂). From other threads, I understand quite radical personality changes are fairly common when starting out with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). I guess one should use caution when drinking and 'moning. ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/14 "2006-12-19T01:46:21Z")
Read this catlord: [Awesome Results using Pre-Release Dirty](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/awesome-results-using-pre-release-dirty/906) EVERYTHING about DIRTY, it’s VERY funny, they all keep making love to their husbands. women using Dirty, thats hella funny!😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/15 "2006-12-19T01:59:27Z")
> [@iGN](#): > > [http://www.ignosaurus.com/Translation/translation.html](http://www.ignosaurus.com/Translation/translation.html) HOLY MOLLLLLLLLLY!!! REP POINTS FOR YOU!!! ---
**Author:** ![iGN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@iGN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iGN)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2006, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-talk-dirty/215/16 "2006-12-19T06:43:08Z")
> [@thomaslavoie](#): > > HOLY MOLLLLLLLLLY!!! REP POINTS FOR YOU!!! Save your rep points until I can reproduce that night consistently. 😉 But it is a lot of fun describing ones experiences with a type of product many people doubt even work at all, and almost be accused of working for the company that makes them because the experiences are so positive.