# Liquid Lust holy grail mix: stunning results on two women in a single day

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 14, 2006, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420 "2006-06-14T04:27:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/403 "2009-01-21T04:06:00Z")

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> [@skeeter](#):
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> You have some awesome names for some of your mixes…LOL

😃

I decided what I wanted to end up with, and then I engineered that as a mix, and of course… named the mix after it.

I’m not there yet… but I’ll get there. Now I just have to get Steve’s attention so I can get some of these made into MX’s. 🙂

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/404 "2009-01-21T18:13:54Z")

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I just called SteveO and gave him a total of 10 (ten) permutations of my Theoretical Best Mix for the Panty Scorcher, to put out as MX’s. If they are accepted, you should be able to join in the fun within a week or three, from what I hear.

😃

Dear Jasmin,

Please accept my mixes for MX status. I’ve been a good boy and been working hard on these mixes. I need them in MX form so I can test them without using 40 sprays of everything under the sun. I need these mixes tested so I can put one of them into production as the Panty Scorcher Final Candidate. Please oh please, Jasmine, Lady of Pheromones, She Who Has Phero Power Almost Unequalled When It Comes To Pheromones From Androtics And Stuff… I don’t ask for much, but this is very important to me. More than a month’s worth of work and over $155 has gone into this so far.

Sincerely,  
Your Favorite Catlord,

Me

Oh, and SteveO? Those amounts are PER SPRAY for a full sized 1 ounce bottle… remember that! Very important. 😉

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/405 "2009-01-26T02:08:11Z")

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Yesterday I did a nice test of the upcoming MX I will code name “Mix 5b”. I had a rare and unusual opportunity, a social party/gathering of the blind. I was invited by the host, who is a long time friend of mine, and also losing his sight slowly but surely. This party was about 15 people, almost all visually impaired or fully blind. I think there were three of us not blind or visually impaired.

I was fascinated with this opportunity because, being visually impaired, I figured these people might be more keenly affected by the pheromones.

So I walked in and sat down, and the moment I did, I was engaged for conversation by a black guy about 23 years old. It was nearly instant. He asked me if I burn incense, because I had a scent about me similar to Nag Champa. (The pheromones, minus a cover scent.) That was the first hit I got.

The second hit was from a pair of fully blind women, also black, to his left. (I was on his right.) They were rather forward in engaging me in conversation. It seemed a bit more forward than normal. I suppose it could have simply been cultural, though, since they were Jamaican. I’m not really familiar with how that culture works in social situations, so I can’t be sure.

The next obvious hit I got was from a Jewish woman. She was talking to the host, and I was standing there too. She was talking away, and I really had no way to get a word in edgewise. (Observing how she acted later, further away from me, I realize that her motormouth was a hit.) I was waiting or a chance to say something without interrupting, noticing she was talking to Steve (the host) and practically ignoring me, when suddenly she turns to me and with a huge smile and not missing a beat with her words, she put her hand on my arm and looked into my eyes in a way that indicated interest. Then she seemed to catch herself, and she turned away and kept talking to Steve. (Her husband was at the party, as well.)

Toward the end of the night we all played a version of the game called “White elephant” and then a variant of truth or dare, where everyone told two things about themselves and we all had to guess whether the statements were true or not. I noticed I was significantly louder than everyone else, and my voice was strong and commanding.

I was wandering around a lot, because I was the designated photographer, and I had been asked to get portraits of everyone without them being aware of it. Not all that difficult when they were blind… but it kept me busy looking for specific expressions. Blind people don’t always realize they’re standing in the way of your camera, either.

At the end of the party, I was getting a lot of attention and interaction from the two women who were completely blind, and they both seemed interested but not in an untoward manner. Had I brought up an interest in the one who was single, she would almost certainly have responded positively.

Later I drove to see my ex, and ended up getting lost several times in Orlando, and was very tired, which made me rather surprised that I had such good control of my frustration. Usually when I am that tired I am much more irritable in response to that much frustration.

When I picked up my ex from work and drove her back to her apartment, I noticed I had exceptional self control. I also noticed that she was having a very hard time not squirming… and I know her well enough to know that means she is really, really ready for sex. I know she finds me very attractive… but usually I have to do something to get her that warmed up… and just for reference, she is also black Jamaican, and has an extremely high sex drive.

I decided to spend the night, since it was 3 am by then and I was simply too tired to keep going. (Since she is my ex, and she screwed the relationship up, I made her sleep on the couch and I took the bed.) The next morning, I noticed I had allergic welts on my right forearm and on my hip/waist where that part of my arm had been resting. They were very red and itchy, but not well defined as in inflammation. I took a hot shower to wash off the pheromones, and the itching, redness and swelling immediately went away.

The interesting thing is, both of the suspect pheromones that I have been wondering about as to whether they caused allergic responses in me, have been worn when I had an allergic response previously, and when I did not. I am not sure what is going on.

In any case… that’s my report on 5b. If they accept it as an MX, you’ll have access to it, but I am not going to specify which MXs are mine, nor which ones correlate to what so I can get impartial blind tests.

Overall, I think I have buffered the mixes a bit more than I should for creating raw lust. These are great for socializing and causing interest and arousal and getting respect, though. The effect seems to be similar to Ammo, for 5b, only more overt hits. I think I am going to remove one of the buffering pheromones, and slightly increase one. Hopefully that will ramp up the sexuality.

As for the version for women, I think I am going to call it FMN, which stands for F\*\*\*\* Me Now. I have a preliminary mix in mind at the moment, but I need to do more research.

EDIT: I just remembered what I believe to be another hit. About half way through the party, a black couple showed up. The guy struck me as not being blind. He was the type who is “Playa fo sho” - well dressed hip casual name brand clothes, fashionable shades, etc. The body language spoke of dominance and self confidence without being affectatious. He knew he was cool, and he didn’t need to prove it, even though his clothes and shades said he wanted others to know it too. He and his girlfriend were there, and at one point, he approached me for a picture of him and his girl. So I did a couple shots of them, and later he asked how to get a copy. I told him I’d be sending them to Steve, and he could get a copy from Steve. The hit comes from what he said next. “Oh… I was planning to pay you for it.”

Now granted, I was carrying around a pretty fancy looking camera (to someone unfamiliar with cameras), but the picture I did was nothing special, and I was wearing jeans and a casual shirt. The only reason I can think of that he would have offered to pay for such a picture is the pheromones.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/406 "2009-01-26T03:46:27Z")

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Hope they release these as MXs. They sound worth testing.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/407 "2009-01-26T17:02:01Z")

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> [@Rovot](#):
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> Hope they release these as MXs. They sound worth testing.

Me too, I’m having a good time with them. 🙂 I have tried almost all of the ones that will be considered for release as MXs and they all (that I have tried) seem to get good results.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/408 "2009-01-31T08:20:35Z")

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Tomorrow I am going to be doing an interesting pheromone test. I’ll be going out to another all you can eat sushi dinner with my friend, and another friend of mine.

This other friend of mine is a natural redhead. This woman is as redheaded as it gets - super ultra hyper red. To a connoisseur of redheaded ladies such as myself, the phrase “perfect red” will describe the color of her hair quite nicely. We’ll call her Wendy, heh heh.

Wendy is a friend of mine who interestingly enough has perfect red hair, wavy, all the way down below her butt… I would die for a woman like this… only somehow, neither of us is really attracted to one another romantically or sexually. However, I happen to know this is the only woman on earth who has a higher sex drive than I do. If it means anything, she is what we call a quadruple Scorpio.

So tomorrow, she and I amd my friend S will be going to all you can eat sushi, as well as doing some photography, and possibly going to butterfly world as well, but since I am trying to buy a kayak, maybe not. S is paying me back for some favors I have done for her, so she’s covering the sushi… but I am putting every spare dime towards this kayak right now, so butterfly world may have to wait.

Anyway, I am sitting here tonight running through the calculations for which mix would produce the best results… and to my surprise… none of the 18 mixes I calculated for produced very good results. So… I started running through the calcs for the equivalent of 2 sprays of each, and lo and behold, I started getting some nice results. Both sets of calcs seem to suggest that Test Mixes 1, 2 and 3 will be most favored by my redheaded friend, which is interesting, because they have absolutely no P-93 in them.

I think I am going to end up wearing the equivalent of 2 sprays of Test Mix 3a, from these results. Looks like tomorrow will be a good day.

I am a bit surprised how my initial estimate seems to be more accurate for the results than my efforts to refine and fine tune…

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/409 "2009-02-01T03:44:53Z")

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Today I wore the equivalent of 2 sprays of Test Mix 1b. It is double the most androstenone I have ever worn, but my calculations showed that it would work, so… I tried it. It’s definitely well enough buffered that the androstenone rage is gone, even at these upper limits of sanity for androstenone.

The day didn’t go as planned at all. First my friend “Wendy” never showed… then the sushi restaraunt tried to pass off sea bass (and not even sushi grade sea bass!) as white tuna or escolar… when I told the waitress it wasn’t white tuna, she brought us some escolar, but it was still not great quality compared to what we had had at that very same place just a few weeks ago. When I told the manager I didn’t appreciate being lied to because he was being a cheapskate, he told me it was okay because he had been “selling sea bass as escolar for 18 years now, and everyone does it. It’s like a stage name.”

Maybe I’m not familiar with sushi, but in my book, sea bass is not tuna… and when I pay for tuna, I expect to get tuna. Which is what I told him. He started getting belligerent with me, and then asked what I wanted. I told him that either I was going to walk out without paying for what I didn’t get, or he was going to lose a customer forever. I ended up paying for it. I was stunned by this disregard for losing customers, especially after he had been belligerent, and beyond that, after having had an attempt to pass off non-sushi grade sea bass as sushi grade escolar! That was a slap in the face, very obviously saying that he didn’t care if he kept his customers. I suspect the androstenone was too much for him, but while I was blunt and assertive, I did not make a scene. In fact I was a bit surprised how little I raised my voice.

So we left there, vowing to make it public what our experiences had been and exactly where the place was, and went to IHOP. Now S, my friend, was not reporting any effects from the pheromones, and I suspect that was because she was both taking a drug to make her heart rate slow down, and because it was making her feel sick. The pheromones had been arousing me before we went to the sushi place.

When we got to IHOP, our waitress was a black Hatian girl, I’d say around 2- to 23 years old, and quite cute. She was pleasant enough, and when she got a whiff of my pheromones, she started giving me the eye, which S noticed as well. But as S was female and pregnant, “the eye” didn’t last long when I didn’t do more than smile, and she wasn’t around enough to really get hit by much more than the androstenone.

Then we went back to S’s appartment, and when I realized that “Wendy” had been off fishing with a guy she likes, instead of meeting me when and where she made plans with me for and then tried to pass it off as being at work, I decided to simply go home before she arrived and I told her off. I hate being lied to and disrespected.

All in all, the pheromones performed as the calculations suggested they would.

EDIT: Upon further reflection, I am thinking this mix produces a strange combination of alpha and beta responses in it’s “b” form… although I did make the mistake of only applying half the proper amount of the substance that makes it the “b” form… I think it has too much buffering for a forceful arousal, but the buffering does make for a much more pleasant social result. However, if I removed some buffering, I would probably have to reduce the androstenone too, because I can feel myself on the edge of the negativity I used to get from it. The buffering is fading after all these hours. (I applied about 8 hours back.) Will definitely have to play with this. SD-24 had a nice masculinizing effect, I’ll have to compare the two and see what’s different.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/410 "2009-02-02T00:49:31Z")

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I have received word that my Test Mixes are of interest to Jasmeister, but one of the pheromones I have included is of some concern. So, it’s looking good, but they’re not yet finalized. If, for whatever reason, I am forced to remove that specific pheromone, it should not be a big problem, since it isn’t specifically included to cause arousal.

I got a report back from S yesterday that I forgot to include, concerning the time before last that I was with her and her husband. I was wearing Test Mix 2a, the equivalent of one spray. She told me that he had been so impressed with me that he ended up telling all his friends how “awesome” I am, and now they all want to meet me. So either I’m really awesome, or that mix really impressed him.

I also have to say that I used hydrogen peroxide wiped on my application points yesterday to neutralize the pheromones I was wearing, because I was too tired to shower at 4 am… and was wearing WAY the hell too much androstenone to be willing to risk going to sleep before doing something about it… well, the H2O2 was faster, easier, and more effective than the shower would have been at removing the none! Glad I remembered about it.

Finally, concerning S’s husband… 2 sprays worth of Test Mix 1b intimidated him. He was acting a lot different yesterday than the day I wore mix 2a, which has no androstenone at all. 2a wasn’t as obviously impacting, but had further reaching results.

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Awesome. looks like it’s getting the right kind of attention.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/412 "2009-02-16T10:28:42Z")

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> [@Rovot](#):
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> Awesome. looks like it’s getting the right kind of attention.

Yeah. Hopefully I’ll be able to do some more testing soon. 🙂

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/413 "2009-02-19T23:16:27Z")

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Okay, I have been too in-the-house lately, and sort of feeling somewhat hide-from-the-world, so I’m going to force myself to get out and test my new mix.

This new mix is new. It’s based on a heavily modified TM-1a. I’ll call it TM-21a. It’s missing several pheromones in 1a, adds in a few 1a doesn’t have, and doubles the amounts of two of the putatives, while leaving one of them out entirely.

So I’m going to wear this mix tonight, and I am planning to go get a few groceries (and a tuna steak for me to make seared ahi tuna with buttered spinach, asiago orzo and mushrooms for myself tonight - cooking a nice meal for one sucks), and then go out to the local bookstore (or maybe Panera) to do a pherosperiment and get some research and work done too.

Will be reporting as I can. Off to apply my monsterous creation. Muah ha ha!!!

7:28 PM: It’s been about half an hour, now. I have to say I am both impressed with, and surprised by, this mix. It impresses me how powerful, masculine and alpha it feels. It surprises e how dark and serious it is, with all the socials I have in it. I feel like “The Man” wearing this stuff. But it doesn’t seem to mix well with Eternity cologne, which I added to cover the androstenone bleed through. So far I have had very little chance to observe effects on females. Nothing I could see definitively in line at the grocery store.

8:53 PM: Mmmm, feeling nice. After two nice tuna steaks, feeling too cozy to go out. Haven’t been noticing a lot of self effects since I got home, for some reason. I am beginning to really wonder if I should balance some of these molecules more for their diffusion properties. So much for today’s test.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/414 "2009-02-25T02:58:48Z")

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Last night, I tested Formula 10E, which is everything I have at 10 mcg/spray except MEO-EST and TAH. (I don’t have P-86 yet, either.)

10E was a big surprise because it could easily have been composed of just two pheromones: P-75 and Androstenone. Those were the only ones that showed up - out of 15 pheromones present at 10 mcg each.

P-75 is SO powerful that ONLY Androstenone was able to even slightly shine through.

P-75 at 10 mcg is very powerful still for “mental sluggishness” and produces a very detached aloof response with a strong lack of desire to move or act. This is one that is going to need to be used at 5 mcg or less, if at all.

Only Androstenone showed through the mental sluggishness AT ALL - and then only as a distant second. Astounding.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/415 "2009-02-27T21:31:51Z")

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I have been using my super secret calculator to help with my [pheromone research](https://pheromonelabs.com/) on this panty scorcher mix, and I have turned up some very interesting results that my friends at androtics might be interested in, as well as my readers.

1. Androstenone gives the most polar results, and the results are centered so specifically that they require 3 decimal places to be exact enough. The results for androstenone are impossible to achieve this specifically using gradiations of 2.5 mcg/spray, but the closest thing to the results I got for “best dose” would be 5 mcg/spray.

2. TAL doses have been all wrong for men. They should be traces only (less than 1 mcg/spray) or not used at all.

3. TAH is in the same boat as TAL, but it has an optimal dose of approximately 1.5 mcg/spray for men.

4. Molecule K gives difficult to pin down results, and seems to have a diffuse “optimal range” which starts around 4 mcg/spray and tops out around 10 mcg/spray.

5. A-1 is one that will be best left out or used as a trace, and it seems to have almost exactly the same optimal dose as TAH.

6. P-75 has an incredibly small and microscopically specific range of optimal dosage, which is so finely graduated that I would have to give away too much information for my secret Panty Scorcher Mix to be precise enough for much value… the entire range seems to be under 0.15 mcg wide, and it is centered roughly at 500 ng/spray.

7. Some pheromones have optimal doses that are split between a very low and very high dose, with everything in between being less than optimal. This gives them a multiple optimal dose possibility, which I presume depends on the specifics of the mix. For instance, P-79 seems to have one “optimal dose” centered around 1 mcg/spray, and a second centered around 7.5 mcg/spray.

This should be of interest, SteveO. Hope it helps. Getting this info has been killing me on the number crunching. I have been at this for more than five hours…

UPDATE: I have the formula for Panty Scorcher narrowed down to just 12,597,126 possible permutations. Now to drop that to 20 or less… lol

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/416 "2009-02-28T00:02:20Z")

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Have you done any number crunches on P86?

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/417 "2009-02-28T00:03:52Z")

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> [@marty](#):
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> Have you done any number crunches on P86?

Yes. That came out suggesting around 10 mcg/spray for best results.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/418 "2009-02-28T05:30:54Z")

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I have about 15 hours of calcs in by now… and the final mix is taking shape. I have five or six more mones to do the exact dose of, but this mix is definitely shaping up to be impressive. I expect that it will be aggressive, edgy, irresistibly sexual on many levels, yet cool and relaxed, with a definite forced honesty to the mix. I don’t know exactly how it will work, but it’s looking amazing on paper. I should have the final mix tomorrow, and when I do I will begin making single doses and testing it. This is going to be ridiculous amounts of sprays of my smaller dose per [spray pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/)… it’s looking like 16 pheromones and around 80 mcg of pheromones per spray of the final product, with 1 to 3 sprays being the dosing range.

I hope this works well enough that its price doesn’t sink it.

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> If it means anything, she is what we call a quadruple Scorpio.

Catlord, you are going to have to start a thread in the lounge or somewhere that you can explain these things.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/420 "2009-02-28T08:39:41Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> Catlord, you are going to have to start a thread in the lounge or somewhere that you can explain these things.

LOL Just PM me and ask if there’s something you’d like to have explained. I’m sure astrology isn’t the stuff they want all over this board. 😉

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/421 "2009-02-28T08:45:56Z")

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I have the final mix!

Now there are a few potential problems.

1. The mix is WAY too complex and specific for me to ever be able to create on my own…

2. The mix has over 200 mcg of pheromones per maximum application (3 sprays)… which might make it a weeee bit expensive.

3. One of the pheromones seems to have an oddly large dose result.

I am worried a bit that not only will this be too expensive to sell, but that it’ll use up all the receptor sites in the wearer’s brain and make them fall over asleep! lol

Hopefully I’ll be able to order some 5 mL sprayers of it soon for initial testing. It sure looks exciting on paper!

It looks like it has a really sexy edgy bad boy type feel to it… with some social/honesty to get her talking about how hot she is… and some attraction/cool guy vibe thrown in with a lot of enhancers and modifiers.

From what my research has revealed, this mix SHOULD have amazing results with women. Theoretically.

It _might_ actually be too strong for me to wear and test at full strength… I calibrated the calculator for the best results from the general target audience, not myself. So we shall see.

I am very excited.

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**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/422 "2009-02-28T18:57:00Z")

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Damn! This thread is still going! What up, Catlord.

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