# Liquid Lust holy grail mix: stunning results on two women in a single day

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 14, 2006, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420 "2006-06-14T04:27:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/683 "2009-06-21T04:15:49Z")

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If I see one more ill comment about PS, I’m gonna snap at the poster.

I am jsut saying.

Furthermore, PS, is a time bomb, I am not one for hype, I got my totw, and my journal, I research and report. This is what I do and I love. PS, is hands down the bomb. But you have to work with it and act the part, if you read a book at a bar you get nothing, if you approach and meet… you got gold.

I have fun with this it is that sexy, respectful, man who for some reason makes your heart race… and the ladies love it.

For me, yes I can actually pick it out on a blind test, I know the signature and the effects. They are subtle but effective. People and ladies who did not like me have changed, I get hugs and kisses every time I go out, I get hit on, free drinks, and know what… I fking love it.

“PS baby, it’s what makes her wet.” (C)-dj Andarial

My exploits are somewhat under wraps, I don’t want to influence the community on effects and what I know about it so hat is why I do not post everything.

It’s called blind concurrence, blind testing with same results = results are real and not just suggestion. Thus the multiple togo MX packs that come out.

-DJ out

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/684 "2009-06-21T04:21:55Z")

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> [@djandarial](#):
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> If I see one more ill comment about PS, I’m gonna snap at the poster.
> 
> I am jsut saying.
> 
> Furthermore, PS, is a time bomb, I am not one for hype, I got my totw, and my journal, I research and report. This is what I do and I love. PS, is hands down the bomb. But you have to work with it and act the part, if you read a book at a bar you get nothing, if you approach and meet… you got gold.
> 
> I have fun with this it is that sexy, respectful, man who for some reason makes your heart race… and the ladies love it.
> 
> For me, yes I can actually pick it out on a blind test, I know the signature and the effects. They are subtle but effective. People and ladies who did not like me have changed, I get hugs and kisses every time I go out, I get hit on, free drinks, and know what… I fking love it.
> 
> “PS baby, it’s what makes her wet.” (C)-dj Andarial
> 
> My exploits are somewhat under wraps, I don’t want to influence the community on effects and what I know about it so hat is why I do not post everything.
> 
> It’s called blind concurrence, blind testing with same results = results are real and not just suggestion. Thus the multiple togo MX packs that come out.
> 
> -DJ out

No need to snap. I took it personally enough for us all. lol It’s done with though. No need to be bothered. Panty Scorcher will speak for itself when the time comes.

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/685 "2009-06-22T05:40:32Z")

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any sort of eta on this? maybe like a countdown or something…  
30 days till it drops or whatever

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**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/686 "2009-06-22T07:13:14Z")

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Ok, I don’t say to much when things get going like this but i have to say something here. If you don’t think this will work for you leave it for other people to try and enjoy!

I for one have not had Mix 292 work great for me. It has been a hit. But I made it work for me now with other Phero’s that I know what works for me. Everyone comes off different! Just got to find what works with you!

I have been working on an attraction mix that works great for me and have been playing around adding things and taking things out. Works for me but maybe not the next person.

So here is a hats off to catload for taking HIS time to finding something that works for many people and trying to share this with all of us.

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/687 "2009-06-22T08:27:33Z")

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I don;t really take it personally, it’s just, wait for the MX pack before you critique… PS is in it’s own category.

It must be understood by the wearer as to its effects before you can really take advantage of it.

You have to be able to pick up on things.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/688 "2009-06-22T08:45:20Z")

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> [@meow333x](#):
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> any sort of eta on this? maybe like a countdown or something…  
> 30 days till it drops or whatever

As yet I am just as much in the dark as to an ETA as you are. I have shipped out the first wave to testers, and second wave is coming up very shortly. Once all testers have some, I will know how much is left and then whether I can send some to be offered in the store.

As to when the MX comes, out… that depends on Secret Ingredient #18. Which I have absolutely no idea when it will be available.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/689 "2009-06-23T07:29:20Z")

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Okay, so the first reports are coming in from testers that they have received their test packages. They’re allowed to post their experiences here (if they know about this forum), but each one got two 5 mL sprayers each labeled with a number. These were chosen at random, and could be either a placebo or PS-R0x for each one. So it could be that they got 2, 1 or 0 samples of PS-R0x.

And before you testers begin complaining… deal with it. That’s what blind testing is all about. 😛

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/690 "2009-06-23T08:53:08Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> Okay, so the first reports are coming in from testers that they have received their test packages. They’re allowed to post their experiences here (if they know about this forum), but each one got two 5 mL sprayers each labeled with a number. These were chosen at random, and could be either a placebo or PS-R0x for each one. So it could be that they got 2, 1 or 0 samples of PS-R0x.
> 
> And before you testers begin complaining… deal with it. That’s what blind testing is all about. 😛

hell ya lets get this thing rolling  
also just out of curiosity, what page does the discussion on panty scorcher begin?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/691 "2009-06-23T16:13:59Z")

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I’m excited to try it too.

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/692 "2009-06-23T21:33:24Z")

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This is going to be fun.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/693 "2009-06-23T21:46:33Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> I’m excited to try it too.

You should have it in your hands very, very shortly… like today, tomorrow, or yesterday. When you have a chance to see what you think, call me and we’ll talk about it.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/694 "2009-06-23T21:51:34Z")

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Today’s testing is in progress, but I am noticing that the first and fastest effect it seems to have is a V.I.P. effect for sure. You are just automatically better than everyone else, and they are the ones deciding that, not you. But it’s not a scary V.I.P. - Just as if you were some sort of celebrity/higher class, and they seem to want to give you special treatment and serve you. This seems to kick in within about 30 seconds @ 3 sprays and 3 feet. The arousal/erotic effects appear to require a few minutes more, but two to five minutes isn’t bad at all. It seems to be easy to attract and arouse, but also to “outclass” and “outvalue” the women who are interested. You may have to give them some indication that they are, indeed, “good enough” to be getting your attention and interest, or they will tend to disqualify themselves.

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/695 "2009-06-23T22:18:45Z")

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haha Catlord, I literally just laughed out loud at the “outclass” and “outvalue” thing. The reason I’m laughing is because I didn’t realise this was even possible until recently. It amuses me to think this is even a problem for me now – I’d of never dreamt this being a problem a while back. Wearing Pheromones around my girlfriend caused her to like me to much; she said things like “You’re too perfect. People look at us and thing how is she with someone to perfect?” and at times she found it hard to hold eye contact with me. I cringe typing this stuff out because it’s so untrue in reality, but Pheromones have caused a certain “outvalue” problem for me. I’ve resolved the issue to some extent by being less aggressive with my anone. And Normally I don’t wear much other than 2 Ammo with a load of Socials. Do you have any better advice on how I should devalue myself?

The VIP effect you describe seems very similar to what I have being experiencing with p75 recently. I’ve wrote about it briefly in my journal. Everyone assumes you are better than them, that you’re a VIP but they are not afraid to initiate conversation with you nor or they intimidated by you’re presence. I find that such a bizarre vibe.

I read a few pages back that you make Subliminals. I’m putting 2 + 2 together here and guessing that the link in you’re profile is to your website. If so I’ve purchased one of your subliminals before, In fact I’m listening to it right now.

Like everyone else, I am excited to try this mix. I’d be more excited to know what the calculator is but alas that isn’t going to happen any time soon.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/696 "2009-06-24T08:17:30Z")

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> [@WildFlower](#):
>
> haha Catlord, I literally just laughed out loud at the “outclass” and “outvalue” thing. The reason I’m laughing is because I didn’t realise this was even possible until recently. It amuses me to think this is even a problem for me now – I’d of never dreamt this being a problem a while back. Wearing Pheromones around my girlfriend caused her to like me to much; she said things like “You’re too perfect. People look at us and thing how is she with someone to perfect?” and at times she found it hard to hold eye contact with me. I cringe typing this stuff out because it’s so untrue in reality, but Pheromones have caused a certain “outvalue” problem for me. I’ve resolved the issue to some extent by being less aggressive with my anone. And Normally I don’t wear much other than 2 Ammo with a load of Socials. Do you have any better advice on how I should devalue myself?
> 
> The VIP effect you describe seems very similar to what I have being experiencing with p75 recently. I’ve wrote about it briefly in my journal. Everyone assumes you are better than them, that you’re a VIP but they are not afraid to initiate conversation with you nor or they intimidated by you’re presence. I find that such a bizarre vibe.
> 
> I read a few pages back that you make Subliminals. I’m putting 2 + 2 together here and guessing that the link in you’re profile is to your website. If so I’ve purchased one of your subliminals before, In fact I’m listening to it right now.
> 
> Like everyone else, I am excited to try this mix. I’d be more excited to know what the calculator is but alas that isn’t going to happen any time soon.

You don’t want to “devalue” yourself. You want to slow down on the “value magnification” effect of the pheromones, with this particular girl. You also want to make sure she knows you choose her and her alone.

It is important to remember something about women. A woman will only stay with a man who treats her the way she wants to be treated.

But there is also the truth that each pairing is made based on an unspoken agreement of balance. She gives to you, and you give to her in return. When this balance is altered, and one party either is giving too much or too little, or is percieved to be unable to give enough, the one who feels unable to give enough begins to feel insecure. They know that it is natural to seek out that balance, so if she senses you are of significantly higher value than she can match, she knows she will eventually be replaced by a female of value matching yours… and she will not be able to compete.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/697 "2009-06-24T08:32:06Z")

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Today’s testing shows that PS-R0x has a very organic self effect that includes mood boosing and self confidence, as well as increased sociability. I have also gotten a hint that the diffusion has been affected by the lowered akuto concentration. Not sure how yet… but the ladies seem to like the lowered concentration.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/698 "2009-06-27T07:31:32Z")

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Well I got a chance to test again tonight. This time I wore three sprays. Effect appears to have been enhanced friendship with one of my long time male friends. We usually get on eachother’s nerves more than we did this evening. He was much more relaxed and… hmmm… less of a dick? Usually he gets his kicks trying to get my goat. Tonight, he was just chilling and relaxed and enjoying the conversation while I fixed his computer. Nice.

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**Author:** ![gnah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d2c977/32.png) [@gnah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gnah)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/699 "2009-06-27T07:35:59Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
>
> Well I got a chance to test again tonight. This time I wore three sprays. Effect appears to have been enhanced friendship with one of my long time male friends. We usually get on eachother’s nerves more than we did this evening. He was much more relaxed and… hmmm… less of a dick? Usually he gets his kicks trying to get my goat. Tonight, he was just chilling and relaxed and enjoying the conversation while I fixed his computer. Nice.

scorches panties AND jock straps? damn… 😉

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/700 "2009-06-27T18:29:34Z")

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SteveO’s First Panty Scorcher Report

I arrived home on Thursday evening and for reasons of her own my GF refused to see me until last night. She was making me suffer for going off to Mexico and not taking her. Not my fault she did not have her passport and was unable to obtain it with one days notice.

I promised I would be good in Cancun and wouldn’t you know it there was a Nun and monk convention while I was there. 🙄😉

So last night (Friday) she had plans for me to go out with some of her friends. Beth is a girl who is still under the legal drinking age but many bars serve food and allow her entry but no booze. I met her in one of these clubs. Anyway we stopped at B-Stars on the way downtown Memphis. I was super excited to see my girl after such a long-challenging wait. She looked amazing and made me realize how my relationship with her is more important than anything else in my life. Incredible good looks, small-town country charm, enjoys the simplest of things like fishing and just laying out enjoying the sky. All the while when she goes out she’s a head turner. Last night was no exception. A simple summer dress, heals and some diamond earings and OMG. Reminds me of Eric Clapton’s “You look wonderful tonight”.

I got to tell you it took me real restraint to not get so worked up that we never made it out. Yeah I am in love with her. There I said it.

So we stopped at B-Stars to get a cup of coffee and because she knows how its in my Yankee blood. She teases me about it and I think it was to also extend the night. Oh yeah almost forgot that she called me earlier to let me know she had made a special trip to Vickie’s and she had on a special secret just for me. Another form of payback because she loves how I love her in lingerie. God I was dying last night! Anticipation has never felt so good.

OK so I’m still not wearing PS yet. We had another 45 minute drive to downtown Memphis after B-Stars and I wanted to test it legitimately without much of a delay. It normally takes me about 20 minutes to get to Memphis but when she is in the car I drive super slow. I love our time together talking and take my time without a worry or care in the world. She does that to me.

While in B-Stars girl who used to work at nights is back tonight and knows my GF. Not really like knows but its a small community and everyone knows her family as they own most of the land in TN. Not to mention how much of a babe she is. My social proof in B-Stars even though I fooled around with a few baristas before just skyrocketed. Well the girl who last I saw told me she was 17, took the initiative to tell me she had a birthday and that I missed it. She was now “legal”! Beth asked with raised eyebrows: “Legal for what.” Barista answered anything SteveO wants to do with me. OK Catfight about to happen here and not even wearing mones yet.

Beth took the initiative and gently let the girl (cute but not worth Beth over, EVER) know I was hers by wrapping her arms around me and kissing me. I could see the look of pure jealousy in Barista’s eyes. It was kind of funny.

Half an hour later and we are on road to Memphis. I get teased more about maybe how I should go back and take that “little girls” offer and do whatever it is I wanted with her. I can see this is going to be a LONG night of push, pull, pain, pleasure and Beth was in control. Not a position I’m used to, but it was kind of a thrill.

15 minutes into drive I tell her I’m taking back control and apply three sprays of PS to the neck. I personally like [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) in mild-doses and this wasn’t as strong as MX149 (My Chemical Romance). I liked that I could smell it, but it died down rather quickly. Beth liked it too. She got quiet and my initial impression was “Smooth Player.” Cool vibes, a certain swagger, like putting on a custom tailored $10K suit with a Rolex. There was a certain air of sophistication, yet I also felt very confident sexually as well. I had been led around so far by the anticipation that I was going to have some wicked sex later with a true babe. Now it was more like I was going to ROCK this ladies world all night and a sly smile crept across my face. I was back in control and knew that she was the one who would be sizzling with the anticipation.

Her first reaction was to put her hand into my hand and squeeze and used her thumb to stroke my wrist. Exhilarating! The car ride suddenly got very charged with a quiet, but pronounced sexual energy. After about ten minutes I asked her what she thought of catlords new mix and she said whatever it is I have to tell you something. I’m not going to repeat it on the forum. Catlord I’ll tell you offline 😛.

We met her friends and mine at bar and the night was crazy. Cigars, beer, tequila and many, many stares and eye contact and smiles. There was a LOT of innuendo being slung our way. One of her friends, a little blond, said we should just get a room at the hotel because she didn’t think we would make it home. Here’s the funny observation. Neither one of us said much, just hand holding, a bit of kissing, but always under control and no tongue except the occasional slip and lots of eye contact. We both had a very deep connection on a different level. We did most of our talking to our friends and I don’t believe we actually said more than a few sentences to each other all night. In that sense there was no reason whatsoever that anyone should be saying these things to us about getting a room. Maybe just our looks, or maybe PS was having an ethereal effect on them watching us.

We both knew exactly when it was time to go. Again the car ride home almost complete silence. We were driven to get home and yet again that ride was slow, relaxed and patient without any rush, but charged with sexual energy.

That’s the end of the report, but I will say she was right about the suprise from Vickie’s.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/701 "2009-06-27T20:56:39Z")

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I guess I have to wait for the follow up phone call to really find out how PS affected her, huh? lol

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-holy-grail-mix-stunning-results-on-two-women-in-a-single-day/420/702 "2009-06-27T20:59:23Z")

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> [@gnah](#):
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> scorches panties AND jock straps? damn… 😉

On the contrary… that’s the first time he has failed to hit on me in 5 years. It de-scorches jock straps. I am definitely going to make a habit of wearing it around him in the future. Then again, maybe he finally gets it that I’m straight? Who knows. More testing. But the vibe last night was much more relaxed, smooth, less him trying to piss me off, more us just chilling and enjoying a drink together as buds.

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