Hate to tell you this, but Catlord hasn’t been around since May 8th.
Yeah, these mixes of his were supposed to be avaialble some time ago. Maybe while testing he was too successful and is now in recovery… or worse…
What a way to go…
Basically what happened with me was that I moved in with a friend and my at-the-time girlfriend, and had to spend pretty much all my time on my home based business and the rest went to my girlfriend. Since I had to balance my relationship and business, and I had originally set my business up in less than the best possible way, I found myself in a sort of cage: I was working 10 to 18 hours a day just to fill orders (because I wasn’t just filling them, I was manufacturing, printing and shipping the physical product, plus doing all the advertising myself, and of course customer service too…). I didn’t have time to build my business any bigger, and I didn’t have enough money coming in to pay my bills and hire an employee.
So effectively I ended up having to choose between my relationship and my business, in the end, my business fell apart at the beginning of 2008 and my relationship fell apart in June. In August, I began rebuilding the business. This time, I am not doing the manufacturing, I have outsourced that (yes, I chose a company in the USA). Eventually, I will have this business for the most part automated. So between the time and lack of a relationship, I will be able to afford the time and money to get back into pheromones. That seems ironic somehow.
SD-12’s formula was lost to water damage and water soluble inks, but recovered by referring to one of my secret testers for the formula. With any luck, I’ll be back to testing and get into production with something in the next 4 to 6 months, but that depends on how well my subliminal programs and books sell in the meantime. 
Catlord17, let me know if there is anything at all I can do to help
That’s easy Steverino… buy all his books and subliminal programs, use your Eban training from that seminar to peddle them, and make both of you rich (and I’ll take a mere 10% off the top for the idea).
Better yet, just send me a million dollars. I’ll spend it all in pheromone R&D for my own product line anyway. lol
Thanks for the heads up, Steve.
Okay, ladies and gentlemens, testing has resumed. Today I mixed up a new batch. Don’t have the stuff to make SD-12, but I will soon. So let’s see, what were we up to? Let’s just jump to SD-20 and be done with it. SD-20 consists of:
1 part IH
2 parts IO
1 part Androsterone 7.5 mcg
2 parts Androstenone 0.5 mcg
2 parts TAL 2.5
5 drops LAM
2 parts IFM
2 parts IS
So that’s 12 parts and 5 drops. (In this test, 1 part = 0.5 mL.) To get the equivalent of a single spray of any of these, I need to use 12 sprays. Obviously, the scenting agents make this impossible to do all at once.
First application, the scent is dominated by the LAM EOs. It smells, actually, like a cross between Neroli, LAM and… soap. Odd. I don’t much like this scent.
I have applied 4 sprays (2 to each forearm). We shall see how this goes.
Update: I am learning what I used to know. sigh
Okay. First lesson. Sprays over mixes. Instead of mixing all this stuff together I should have applied sprays of each instead. Instead of parts, I could have applied sprays, and then had one drop of LAM to top off the mix. This would have maintained my versatility factor, without locking in mones for a specific mix, and would have produced a stronger phero signature because each component would be present in sprays, and not be getting diluted by all the carriers other components. Sprays over in-bottle mixes. Check.
I have noticed I am starting to feel a bit odd. It’s hard to describe. It’s as if I’m “not quite all here”. The headache I had is going away, but that’s probably just the Tylenol took. I feel odd… kind of sort of spacey-not all there-tired-almost loopy. Not a bad feeling, but definitely interesting. My face feels a bit strange in places. Interesting. I feel as if I want to go to sleep…
The scent, now that it has dried down, is a bit too feminine for my tastes.
Update: half an hour in now… mainly testing on myself. My face feels different. Definitely different. I remember having this sort of effect a while back from mixing IO/IS/something else… IH? IFM? I bet if I added the right amount of EOW it would produce that hypersensitive body glow of pleasure response I had once before.
I think, somehow, I have managed to slightly OD on alpha-nol. My math must be off, but then again… LAM is 20 mcg/drop… yet I don’t feel giggly or talky. Just kinda spacey and loose. This mix is definitely making me relax. Gonna have to test it at a lower dose. I have been told it’s too strong a scent at 4 sprays.
After several experiments with SD-20, I can report that it works well, but has next to no sexuality to it at all. What it does do is put me in a good mood, and seems to make everyone around me feel good too.
Now I am testing SD-21. I think this is similar to one of my other SD mixes, but I’m too tired to check right now. 20 hour days lately filling orders for Christmas is killing me.
Anyway, SD-21 is:
2 sprays IFM (forearms)
1 spray Androstrone 7.5 (chest)
2 sprays andristenone 500 ng (total 1 mcg) to the forearms
2 sprays IO to the forearms
1 spray IH to the forearms
2 sprays TAL 2.5 (one to the back of each hand)
Had someone comment on it being the scent of IFM, which they didn’t like. Odd.
I ended up spending a total of 5 minutes in public today… joy. But this mix is sexual, and I know that because it’s TURNING ME ON. Very strange… I am not used to wearing mixes with male pheromones and getting turned on. Usually, it’s the mixes heavy in copulins that get me going. I suspect it’s the androsterone, since I’m wearing a button down Indiana Jones type shirt, which is effectively funnelling the spray to my chest right to my face. It’s not a quick arousal… took a couple hours… but it’s definitely there.
I have been contemplating doing some experiments with megadoses of androsterone to see what happens.
I have also been doing experiments with a subliminal audio aphrodisiac, which I have been selling for years… works great, but I haven’t done much with pheromones and this. Only two experiments so far. Both times I had rather spectacular results… one was actually so spectacular it scared me enough to get up and leave, mainly because I was afraid for my laptop.
In any case, I’ll be doing experiments with the audio aphrodisiac and pheromones combination, and I am gearing up to be selling the two as a combination, as well. I’ll report back here on what happens… but I have to tell you ahead of time, some of the results I post here are going to be difficult to believe unless you experience them. The subliminals alone are EXTREMELY effective, and mixed with a sexual pheromone mix, are positively slaying.
Will be experimenting more with SD-21 in public shortly.
catlord, I’m not sure I understand. Do you sell all these products you talk about (as in the pheromone mixes and subliminal cd’s?) If so, where?
I make my living selling subliminals, both custom and pre-made. The pheromones, I do not sell at the moment. Just started up my research into seduction pheromone mixes recently. My website is available for you to find in my profile, I believe. Just click on my screen name and select “Visit Catlord17’s home page”. If you can’t find it, PM me.
Thanks Catlord, I just found your page. I didn’t know you worked with subliminals, I have had some experiences with Mephisto’s (I don’t know if you’ve heard of them), but the ones I own are just for self-effects -(mainly for motivation and concentration) so I don’t have experience in how they work with seduction. I’ll make sure to read your whole page since I have always been very interested in this topic, but couldn’t find many other people who had experience with them.
Mephisto I am aware of. They are the only other company in the world (that I know of) that produces certain specific types of subliminals that I produce. If my customers are to be believed, I have them beat. I haven’t tried any of their subliminals personally, so I can’t say what I think of them myself. But I have to respect the length of time they have been doing this.
Well it’s good to know at least that Mephisto is at least respected by another member of the field. I’ve tried a few of them, but what I liked about your site a lot more is that you have a lot more detailed instructions.
With the mephisto cd’s I have no idea if I’ve been using them correctly, I just try to listen to them as much as possible for a week and then switch cd, but I’m reading in your page that it should be a month of listening to them. It’s weird, don’t know if it was the Mephisto cd, but I did feel a lot more motivated after listening to it for a week. Their concentration cd also helped me power through papers which I ended up doing well in. But, again, I wish they gave more instruction on how to use them.
I was checking your page and got extremely interested, I have to admit it all sounds too good to be true, but then again so does NLP and both seem to be based on legitimate studies and so many have had great results with them. The science of the mind has been neglected for so long and it doesn’t surprise me that discoveries such as these promise so much; the power of the mind is larger than we can imagine, we just have to learn how to stimulate its potential.
I also believe that it is good to have products of similar nature from different companies, in order to experience positive variation and experience what different people have to offer, so I made a couple of purchases already even though they are more on the curiosity spectrum (Lucid Dreaming and Intuition). I will most likely check out some more, but all in due time. Any reccomendations Cat Lord?
interesting webpage,
does the dream stuff really work? especially controlling it?
i messed with this program a few times way back when
is it similar to this?
I respect that they have been in business for a long time; I didn’t say I respect them for anything else. I don’t necessarily agree with a lot of what they are doing in terms of programs and advertising methods.
In order to keep this thread from getting off topic and turning into an advertisement, please PM me with your questions, ladies and gentlemen. I’ll be glad to answer your questions, but I don’t want to be spamming the forum. This thread is about my search for pheromonal lust. And Bruno, I strongly suggest you remove your private contact information and address from a public forum… you never know who will do what with it.
That said… I am doing research on new pheromones:
TAF
TAH
TAL
P74
P79
P83
Meo-Est
TAF, P79 and P83 in particular have me interested for producing arousal. If anyone has any tips or suggestions along these lines of pheromonal research, please feel free to share and advise.
Today’s trial:
2 sprays IFM
2 sprays IO
1 spray IH
7.5 mcg androsteRONE
1.0 mcg androsteNONE
3 sprays IS
1 drop LAM
Wandered the mall with a friend. I was feeling very dominant. Friend picked this up, and kept vacillating between following me and trying to get ahead to seem like he was not following me, but he kept ending up following me. Haven’t hung out with this guy in a while, but it used to be that we were equals or I would follow him (mainly because I didn’t care much to walk fast enough).
Wandered through mall. Caught 2 IOIs (eye contact) which clearly were not based on mones. Went to TGI Fridays for a drink. I had a beer, he had a bourbon. Bartender was trying to interest me in a beer I have never tried before. Girl 45 degrees off left at the bar agrees with bartender that it’s a good beer out of nowhere. Very nice looking woman, very unexpected response, because that seemed to catch even her by surprise, and she kept her head down and her mouth shut the rest of the time. Women off my left kept looking over at us, as if something kept attracting their attention against their will. one was seated 180 degrees away from me, kept turning around to view us. These women seemed annoyed that we were attracting their attention.
Bartender stopped talking after I ordered the beer and she poured. She made herself busy while friend and I made small talk and joked around. Then, she left the bar area completely. When she returned, I noted that she was considerably flushed and actively avoiding eye contact with us. Very sudden shift in behavior. She also tried to keep away from us and facing another direction. Interesting.
Finish drinks, leave. Go to book store. Lose friend on purpose. Find a section that interests me. Note chair with younger woman next to empty chair. Choose book to browse. Sit down. Younger woman almost immediately begins displaying arousal signs. Crossing and uncrossing legs. Wagging feet. Wagging feet and legs. Trying to keep from wagging feet and legs. Scooching back and forth. Running hands through hair. Flushing like mad. Resisting all attempts by her sister and mother to drag her out of that seat. Finally, 10 minutes later, they return and threaten to leave without her. She reluctantly agrees.
Get bored. Put book away. Find friend. Leave.
Head to bar. He buys a bottle of JB Bourbon. We head to his place. Drinking bourbon and teaching me how to handle a gun. Getting nervous. He decides to load it. Getting really nervous. Insist he unload gun. He pats my shoulder, as if to say “Glad you’re thinking safety.” He unloads gun. Continues gun lesson. Distract him from gun lesson to save my life. Hide bullets while he’s downstairs talking to someone else.
He returns. I manage to get him drunk as hell without getting drunk myself. Okay, I was buzzing, but he was drunk as hell. I ask him to show me the “back 40” with the animals. We head outside. Over to horse stable. Horse smells me. Horse likes the pheromones. Horse tries to kiss me. Horse really likes pheromones. Horse really wants to kiss my hands. Horse starts freaking me out. I suggest we leave horse alone. We leave horse alone.
Over to cats. Cats remain at a distance. Free range pigs run away. Probably a good thing. Go back in. Chat with his father. Father seems to be in an unusually good mood. I have dinner with them. Yummy chili kraut dog. Yummy soda.
Cat jumps on table. Cat attempts to eat not my food, but my arm. Bad kitty. Kitty starts purring. Kitty makes me want to be nice. Pet kitty. Kitty tries again to eat my arm. This is getting to be strange. Time to leave.
Strange day.
Next time I am going to try 2.5 mcg of androstenone.
Interspecies erotica. Intriguing.
The secret formula for SD-12
I was just reading a post in which someone expressed disapointment that SD-12 was never released as a mix or a formula. Since I can’t afford to set it up as a mix right now, and there’s really no point in keeping it secret, I’ve decided to share it. The formula for SD-12 is as follows:
1 part TAF 10 mcg/spray
2 parts TUTH (2.5 mcg/spray androstenone)
1 part androsterone 7.5 mcg/spray
1 part Instant Honesty 1x
1 part Instant Openness 1x
Replace parts with sprays if you don’t want to make a pre-mixed spray. I find that mixing these together into a pre-mixed spray makes the resulting scent rather sexy, and I suggest mixing up this formula as a pre-mixed spray instead of using as separately applied sprays.
There. Now you guys who I disappointed can go play with SD-12.
Today I took a much needed day off. I spent some time working on the third volume of one of my books that’s been getting neglected as I work myself to death on subliminals, and had plans to go out with a friend for all-you-can-eat sushi.
Today I tested out SD-24, which is:
10 mcg P79
2 sprays Instant Female Magic
3 sprays Instant Shine
2 sprays Instant Openness
2 sprays Instant Honesty
5 mcg androsteNONE
15 mcg androsteRONE
5 mcg TAL
2.5 mcg TAH
All sprays are from a full sized bottle, and nothing “instant” is above 1x strength, so adjust accordingly if you’re interested in trying SD-24.
Results:
A mix this complex takes time and a bit of ingenuity to apply. I was originally going to wear a long sleeved shirt, but I decided against that because I needed to use my forearms to apply. As it was, I ended up spraying a lot on my forearms.
The drive to meet my friend was about an hour, so I decided to apply before I left instead of trying to bring all those bottles. I didn’t have time to mix, and I didn’t have the right concentrations for mixing properly on a couple ingredients, so application before leaving was the only option.
I was a bit nervous on using 5 mcg androsteNONE because it’s above my normal unbuffered upper limit, but my calculations suggested this would be one of the two best options. So… I took the plunge.
At first, I left the windows down to help it dry down. I noticed that even with the windows down, it made me feel significantly more confident and I suppose you could say “Alpha”. Not really Alpha or dominant, exactly, but definitely a powerful masculine presence. I was rather impressed, and it felt really good. I was my own man and I was enjoying it. This mix really brought out the appreciation for it.
About half way there, I decided to roll up the windows and see what happened. Would I rage? When I rolled them up, I didn’t rage, but the skin on my face began to feel warm, as if I had a slight sunburn. I suspect this is due to P79, since last I used it, I felt the same thing, only more intensely. No rage though. Nice.
I arrived and was rather discombobulated because of being so tired. When I got there, I discovered my friend (who owed me a sushi dinner) had invited her 7 year old son and her 27 year old sister. Hmmmm. Not what I had in mind… but okay.
Sister isn’t my type in some ways, but she’s got a nice body. She is very slender and gracefully built. I think she’d make a great artistic nude model, if I could ever get her in town while my camera was functional. This is the second time she’s been down from Illinois (or was it Michigan?) while my camera was on the fritz. Oh well.
So sister starts small talk with me almost immediately, and I made a reall fool of myself with my answer. She asked when I became single… and I couldn’t remember. June? August? September? October? No, finally I remembered… November 7th. The day I should never be able to forget. Okay. So I’m feeling like I have the taste of foot to wash out of my mouth, and we head to the sushi place. My friend is driving… I end up in the car with her and her son. Her sister drives a separate car. Damn.
So we’re on our way there and of course someone has the guardrail torn to shreds on the exit we were supposed to get off the interstate from, so the exit is blocked off. My friend, S, positively flips out. I was surprised at this… no reason to get that upser. She also flips out at the other drivers for being idiots. I am beginning to suspect none rage in HER at this point… although the other drivers were being d****, I’ll have to give that to her.
We finally arrive, and go inside. I end up sitting next to sister. It’s awkward. Sister is a psychology grad student. Working on her Ph.D. Very high standards and all this. Sitting next to her seems awkward because I don’t think either of us really knew how to deal with this level of physical closeness at that point. However, this means she’s well within my phero cloud all evening, while making it very difficult to see how she’s responding without giving myself away doing it. Damn.
Fortunately, yours truly has excellent peripheral vision and is slick about people watching. He heh heh.
So the sushi starts rolling, and at first it’s very awkward, but as the pheros kick in, she starts exhibiting two responses. First, she’s relaxing very nicely - and no alcohol is served. Second, she begins exhibiting some subtle signs of arousal. Nice.
It’s when she starts flirting with me and joking about how I’m a racist for liking white tuna sashimi more than pink tuna sashimi that I realize she’s never been this way towards me before. And the wringing of her hands, fiddling with her G-phone more than makes sense as we’re eating and talking, and talking more and more animatedly than usual means she’s got something going on in the arousal department. This woman is normally very intellectual and cerebral… she always has absolute self control and maintains a sort of professional aloofness. I’m trying to sneak glances to see if she’s flushing about the face, too, but my quick glances did not detect that. Hmmm.
So we end up leaving before two of the four of us are really done with the “all you can eat” part, because the other two are whining about wanting to leave. I think son wanted to leave because he was bored and happens to be rather spoiled… and sister wanted to leave because she was becoming intellectually bored to a degree and was feeling uncomfortably aroused.
As we were all saying goodbye, sister seems to want to give me a hug, but doesn’t know how to broach that subject, so she simply tells me goodnight. I can see in her body language and hear in her voice she would not mind spending more time with me, at the very least. Shame there are children present… and no bottles of wine. Interesting things could have happened otherwise.
So S and son and I get in S’s car and leave. I’ asking S, who knew I’d be wearing pheros, how they appear to have affected her. She tells me that she felt more open and relaxed, and “tingly” all over. She also says she couldn’t stop thinking about the sex she had had that afternoon. It started being an obsessive thought when we got into the car to leave for the sushi place. Interesting.
Then I ask her about her sister’s behavior. She hasn’t been paying much attention, but when she thinks back, she says, “Now that I think about it… that was really unlike her… she was flirting with you! Wow, that stuff really works well!”
So… I start thinking back. I wonder if the female servers were affected too? We had one middle aged and one older server, both female, and they appeared to have been of some sort of hispanic-asian mix. I’m thinking, and I realize… the younger one was always standing next to me when she came to our table… not in the middle between S and I… not over by S… always next to me. Very interesting!
It’s a real shame the circumstances weren’t more accommodating for seeing what the mix would do “full throttle”… but I did notice that the kid wasn’t intimidated at all.
I think, however, that upon further reflection, this mix is too heavily buffered. I am not sure which thing is doing it, but I want it to be more directly sexual and masculine. I’ll probably adjust it for next time.
P.S. - How did I go from 2,038 posts to 1,838?
I have just ordered all the stuff I wanted to experiment with - 11 bottles in all. This is all experimones and putatives. I am going to determine exact specifics for mcg/spray of each part of my Panty Scorcher mix.
Looking forward to this. These ought to give me quite a few weeks if entertainment.
I think I am going to base the PS mix on three primary pheromones:
Androstenone
Androsterone
Beta-Androstenol
This thing is probably going to have between 11 and 14 pheromones in it when I get done. I have already used up most of a notebook with theoretical notes, mixes and research.
I think I have an idea what the strength of pheromones in the Instant line is, but I need to be more specific than “3 sprays of IFM”. I need to know how many mcg of A-1 does the same thing. Sorry, instant line. and sorry, A314, but I couldn’t afford you too this time.