Liquid Lust holy grail mix: stunning results on two women in a single day

Of course it’s still going. I only just found the formula I was looking for. lol

I hope, anyway. This calculator has been pretty awesome in the past. I never put it through such a complex workout before though.

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, last time I had a mix I wanted released, SD-12, it never got released (I still don’t know why) and you all got upset with me. Now I have another great mix and I am trying to get it into testing, but I can’t get through, I can’t get to Steve, or Steve needs Jasmine for something, and she’s not available.

Please help me get them to call me back… The Panty Scorcher mix is ready to be produced for testing, and I know there’s some of you who would like to know how this mix works. I would too! It’s too complex for me to actually test unless Androtics actually produces it! lol

holy crap 43 pages of posts… after reading all of this… I would but this outright!

It has taken a LOT of R&D to get to this point. CFM for Him will probably be made available as an MX (although which one will remain a secret) and the goal is to release it as a commercial product with my company supplying the honesty and integrity you’ve come to expect from Androtics, who would be producing it on the back end for us. We basically have decided to produce what we think is going to be a “Major Player” pheromone mix, possibly cologne strength scented product that I designed to produce “slap you in the face” obvious results both on the person wearing it and those the wearer interacts with. We’ve decided to aim at producing a classy product, even though the end result should be quite sexual. Originally this was supposed to be a complimentary product for something else, but it seems to have outgrown that role, and I think it deserves to be the center of attention on it’s own stage. I went all out, ignoring costs, and designed this with the goal of producing the best product possible for getting the best results across the board. (Uncertain what the effects will be on certain races, however.) It is a very complex, intricate and subtle mix, and should have at least three major effects. But while I don’t know yet how much it will cost, I am betting it is going to cost us a pretty penny just to produce.

We are all very excited around here about this formula, and we’re DYING to get our hands on the initial test samples. (“We” being my business partners and those who have been chatting with me about it.) While the mix is far too complex and subtle for me to create in my own little “mini-lab” so to speak, it is what I would call positively brilliant on paper, and without my secret calculator, I would have spent another 2 to 3 years probably arriving at this mix, or anything close. The calculator revealed that I was going in the wrong direction entirely with comparative ratios of two different groups of pheromones, and using WAY too much of a third and fourth, and WAY too little of a 5th, along with the wrong type of a sixth - and that I should leave two of them out completely.

Based on my understanding of pheromones, the mix looks brilliant, but we won’t know for sure until we get our hands on the initial test batch (hint hint, Steve! and Jas! :smiley:)

Once the first test batch has been used to determine whether the mix produces results in the correct direction and if there are any undesirable side effects, we will begin tweaking and wider scale testing on our own, in addition to the MX. I expect this formula is going to be extremely close to spot on what I was aiming for, and I expect it to become counted amongs the “Major Players” of pheromone products. (A314, Phero Proof, etc.) In fact, I dare say it might just end up being the best on the market for doing what I designed it to do. That is definitely my intention, and my hope.

To be a little more specific than before about the intended effects, the major effects are three fold:

  1. To cause forcible arousal in females, respect in males, and step up the “alpha” in the wearer’s attitude without becoming a jerk or asshole. Edgy, but under control - the effect I was looking for is sort of like a cross between James Bond and Vin Diesel. Slightly cocky, but definitely with the stuff to back it up, and having it under control. That fine line that the best of them have.

  2. To bring with it a socially comfortable icebreaking effect that generates both a comfortable atmosphere for communicating, but also encourages honesty from the subjects, whether they care to be honest or not - and encouragement to be actively communicative also. It should have a very nice ice breaking effect even for those who have mild social anxiety, and should help encourage the ladies to approach and “open” the wearer.

  3. It should have the effect of giving the wearer an aura of being smooth, cool, admirable and desirable to women and admired and respected by other guys, without being overly aggressive or giving the wearer an attitude problem.

The secondary effects I was aiming for include relaxing the wearer, and causing a dis-inhibiting effect in the subjects, which I am expecting will cause women to become more playful, flirty and open to acting on their desires, and have guys being more comfortable with the wearer, and seeing him as more fun and admirable. There should also be a significant, but subtle “attractiveness” undertone to this mix. It will probably be hard to spot by itself, but the effect should be that people - especially women - want to be around the wearer more, within close proximity, and feel more comfortable being there. Finally, there will be a few “social proofing” elements, which should result in a strong tendency for people to assume the wearer is of higher value, and tend to view him as such even if he’s not always displaying higher value. It won’t work miracles, but I suspect it will be somewhat “forgiving” in this regard.

The final result, if I got this right, will be a mix that is very sexual, but not so much that it skips “Point B” and takes a woman right to sex (“Point C”). It should interest her, and help the wearer with his “game”, without going too far too fast and resulting in the ASD shutdown effect. In other words, it’s designed to move things along very quickly for her, without causing her to feel like she’s going too far too fast. The rest, of course, is dependant on how the wearer “drives the car”.

Most of the sexual pheromone products are designed to jump straight to Point C. Some of them work, some of them don’t; but the vast majority of women need to go from Point A (Meeting him) to Point B (Becoming comfortable with him) before they give him “prized access to their eggs”. CFM for Him is designed to make this process go much faster and more smoothly, but of course it isn’t all in the pheromones, and even the best mix is going to flop if you don’t act in a congruent manner. Although, again, as I said… this should be a “forgiving” mix.

I also expect some of the secondary steering pheromones to have a huge impact on the primary ones… and for this to result in some spectacular hit reports.

My fingers are crossed. Let’s hope I got it right. We should have preliminary results about a week after I get the mix into my hot little hands and distribute it to preliminary testers.

By the way, preliminary testers have already been selected. Second stage testers haven’t been determined fully because we don’t know yet if the formula is as good in real life as it appears on paper, or if something has gone horribly wrong and I didn’t catch it. :slight_smile: However, remember that I expect this mix to be VERY not cheap to produce. The intended dose range will be 1 to 3 sprays, and it should have over 200 mcg of pheromones at the 3 spray application range. This is a serious mix.

Let’s hope I did the numbers right. That was about 13.5 hours of number crunching. :slight_smile:

EDIT: By the way… expect that we’ll be using placebos (and possibly even alternate mixes) for testing, to make sure we get genuine, effective reports.

If I shout loud enough, do you think Steve or Jas will hear me from here!

STEVE, JASMIN,YOOHOO!

Come on, my mother was a hamster and my father smelt of elderberries, I want the Holy Grail :smiley:

I have their attention… and they are working with me actively on this. :slight_smile: If they start to slack off, I’ll sic you all on them. lol But with any luck, I should have ordered the first test bottle of this stuff by tomorrow afternoon. Er… hmm, later this afternoon. :smiley:

The amount of dedication and time you have spent on this mix will be reflected in the success it will bring you. I would say good luck but you won’t need it. Just don’t leave it too long until you start posting results :slight_smile:

We’ve got your back man, us new guys like my self who are really serious about the research aspect of it, love of the pheromones, and advancement in its technology so to speak. As well as the OG hardcore members you all know, and obviously already know what’s up. In their footsteps I follow, and even though this is only the beginning of my journey I will be glad to test your product to the best of my ability.

I’m going to be walking a fine line here - reporting, but trying not to influence testing. So I’ll do my best but remember that in the end, we don’t benefit if the tests are skewed by my reporting.

And I know I have a way with words, but try to contain your expectations. :slight_smile: I may have a mix that is brilliant on paper, but flops in testing. Although I very seriously doubt that… but it is still a possibility. You know my goals. Just presume that those are goals, until testing shows that the mix has achieved them.

Testing will be opened up when we get the chance… but you may have to wait for the MX.

Hmm… You’ve rather sparked my interest.

I wish you the best of luck in your testing, and would be willing to participate if need be.

How do you feel the mix will work over a wide variety of age ranges?

As to the age range question, the answer at this time (without any in hand so far) is as follows.

The product uses a rather large amount of androstenone at a dose of three sprays, and even though it should be nicely buffered, the gradiation I have used per spray means that to interest younger women, you should be able to simply use less sprays. I estimate that one spray should be of most interest to women between 18 and 23, two sprays for women of 24 to 29, and 3 sprays for women over 29.

However, that is a rough estimate, and I could be wrong. I’m sure some guys here have gotten good hits from younger women on large amounts of androstenone.

Based on the aggressive nature of the mix, I’m not sure how well it’ll work around Asians, but if it does not do well with them, I can always create a mix designed specifically for them. I already have a pretty good base for that, actually.

No call from androtics today, unfortunately, which probably means that Steve didn’t get in touch with Jas, or he forgot to call. :roll_eyes: Might have to get out the chariot driver’s whip.

Oh, no doubt! I totally understand what you’re trying to say, and that’s something that I always take into consideration when testing. However, I also like to believe that being easily influenced by say for example, another person’s post/results is something that easily doesn’t influence you if you truly know how to do your own thing, and not easily get swayed by someone else (or whatever someone else says.) I think it all comes out to how easily someone is influenced in general, and I feel that it can be easily controlled and also figure that the older you get the wiser you become (if that makes any sense.)

However, I can see how important this is when you seriously don’t want to take any chances or take every variable as a chance to prevent errors in the tests. So placebo testing is also another good idea. Heck, I just hope some don’t start saying that they’re getting good hits out of a placebo MX! 'Cause then that would suck and make things difficult ha, ha.

I don’t know if there would be a placebo MX or not, although that seems like a good idea… I was talking about for in-house testing. Maye have three bottles, one being no pheromones, one being an alternate mix, and one being the CFM. That would give us Mix A, Mix B and Mix C, and the correlations would be recorded before we gave them out. Then we would get reports based on designation, without the tester being aware of what is what.

Yes, that does sound like a good idea! Maybe we shouldn’t talk about a placebo being a possible idea on here, since people might use this in some negative way when your mix does make it out (it might skew testing knowing this, perhaps?) Hope not though!

The solution to that problem is to give some people placebos and some not. Tada. I would prefer to do some double blind tests, but that’s not so simple.

Yes, while being real sneaky about it! Ooo, this is fun. :stuck_out_tongue:

hi Catlord

keen follower of your work and this thread - infrequent poster.

How about giving each tester the real mix AND 1-2 placebos? A slightly different way to measure efficacy in a “blind” study manner. It eliminates the person to person variation and focuses in on the effect of the mix.
Also, the placebos need to smell like pheromones or similar scent. Why not use a pheromone (e.g. Androsterone) as the placebo/control? A314 might be an interesting control as well.

just a thought (or two)

Mark

Hi, Mark, thanks for the suggestion. That sounds like basically what I had in mind. Each tester gets 2-3 test mixes, each coded to a tester number and a letter. Before they are sent to the tester, the tester number is associated with a name and location, and the letters are associated to specific mixes on my end. The tester would know each one as, say, #344756-A and #344756-B, never knowing if either, both, or neither of their sprays is a placebo or alternate mix. They report and we gather evidence. That seems the best way to go about it. Of course… MXs would be good too. But those tend to take longer to push out.

I’m so relieved! I was really hoping that I wasn’t going to be one of the testers that only ended up with a placebo or something! At least now the efficacy of reporting will show. Glad you’re doing this, very impressive time and work spent. Hope we all (and especially you due to karma) all get to reap the rewards of your hard work!

My investment partner got in touch with Jas directly for about 30 seconds today. She was supposed to call back at 10 PM. He hasn’t told me that she did, so I suspect she did not. But I expect we will be testing this mix shortly, and will continue testing through April probably. I know they’re busy but… really wanna see how this mix works. :frowning:

If it all bombs out because of no follow through by Andritics, though… you guy’s will know it wasn’t me! lol