Liquid Lust mix: the leaked formula and its later revisions

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Ultimately, only you can decide what you think is right for you to do. It’s not as if my mixes are only for experienced users. I’m just thinking from the point of view that if you want to understand a mix better, it helps to have experience with the pheromones that make up the mix. This may not be a suitable goal for you. Perhaps you just want to try the mix. That’s perfectly fine. :slight_smile:

The more complex the mix, however, the more complex the responses seem to be, from what I have observed. So it helps to have some experience with seeing how each pheromone makes people respond. That way, you can see responses that you might not notice otherwise, and you might not realize are pheromone responses.

But again… it’s certainly not as if, because you’re new to pheromones, you’re somehow “not good enough” to be using this mix or that mix. :slight_smile: Experience comes from experimenting.

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I have not been seeing the same results lately that I was in the beginning. I have concluded that:

A) You have to use close to OD levels to get those types of response with the current formulation.
B) Emotions play a BIG role in how people respond to pheromones.
C) I probably have too much NOL in the mix.
D) It will probably benefit from even more copulins.

Once I run out of my current batch, I’ll adjust the ratio.

So far, every woman I have allowed to smell the bottle, has said exctly the same thing: “Oooooh, that smells GOOOOOD!” I believe these women have all had bisexual leanings. Every bisexual leaning woman has been attracted, while the hetersexual women have responded with either outright efforts to avoid me, or have been seemingly confused in some way. The ones who were confused were the ones who had features that typically attract a lot of attention from the guys. I hypothesize that using Seduction around women who are used to getting every guy sniffing after her, along with a “So what?” attitude, confuses the hell out of them. The attitude alone would probably do it, but having the scent of a freshly laid high value young stud doesn’t hurt.

I suggest using 5+ sprays of Seduction of the current formulation to achieve the desired results.

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ooooh and see, part of my curiousity in trying this is how i am going to react to my own smell,lol. for guys or not, this stuff has me peeeeeked!:open_mouth:

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You’re probably habituating to the results you’re getting. Starting to take them for granted.

The brain is marvelous at that.

Lottery winners or others with newfound money, for instance, start to forget that they’re rich after a week or so. It becomes “the norm”. Everyone notices but them (their “old” friends, especially!)

The brain “normalizes” fast.

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While I agree with you, I don’t see women throwing themselves at me and rubbing on me as they were before - even the same women.

Now granted, every time I’ve been around one of the two best responders, she’s been emotionally upset. REALLY upset. I think that’s inhibited it in her.

The other one I don’t spend much time around, and we have been spending a lot of time outside in the wind and heat. That doesn’t help ether.

It’s probably just a combination of bad timing, and bad circumstances. I don’t wear it every day, and I don’t experiment with it every time I go out though… still think it’s normalizing?

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Well what the hell do you need me for then? YOU have the real thing in spades! LOL

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I thought you were talking about the general populace, not the very same two women.

In terms of them, it’s definitely normalization… but not yours, as much as theirs.

I’d let their neurology “forget” the effects for awhile. They’ll never completely forget, of course, but it’s just like pizza… they’ll better respond to your mix once in a blue moon than they will if served daily. It’ll never be like their very first bite of pizza, but it should still be good.

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who said anything about NEED?
want comes into play here,LOL!!!

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If you’re going after self effects, heavily change your mixes daily… drop in and out different pheromones, and use different levels. Apply at different times, too. The brain has a great sense of time.

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you know, your right, i didnt think about the timing at all!!!
i do tend to stick with the same stuff , and could use a total screwing - up. oh hellll no, i did not just say that! lol

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And here you are telling me that you hate it when things get to be the same. Typical woman. :roll_eyes::smiley:

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and hating it…
you know, i wouldnt have to stick with the same stuff if i was sent pheromonal gifts ::bat bat bat -look into the eyes- :open_mouth: bat bat bat:: okay, its clear to me i cannot dilate my eyes at will.
typical woman :roll_eyes:

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hehe this sounds like me when i discovered copulins and nol.

the good ol days. =P

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ps. try tal/tah in place of bnol/anol =)

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Did you just say you need a “total screwing”???
:open_mouth:

(Said with tounge in cheek…

oops, wait, that can be taken a number of ways too… )

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OK, now, ladies and gents, let’s behave. :smiley:

Examine, are you suggesting TAL/TAH to me or Lor?

Lor, a great way to dialate your pupils at will is to - oh, wait, maybe I shouldn’t tell you that. :smiley:

Now then. I have another day’s worth of experimental interestingness to extoll upon.

Today I did a shoot with a friend of mine’s friend. We were doing a shoot for a CD cover, and she was supposed to be nude according to the wishes of the client. So, I put on five or six sprays of Seduction, and went off to work.

Now when I met the model, I instantly knew that she was not interested in me. She had an attitude that “he’s male, he’s probably a loser”, but I only smiled. She’s not really my type, but I was looking forward to seeing how Seduction worked, if at all. Keep inmind, I follow Rules # 1, 2 and 3 to a tee:

  1. Never screw the client.
  2. Never screw the client. (That way either.)
  3. Never screw your models.

So she was never in danger of a screwing, total or otherwise. :smiley:

Anyway, the shoot was supposed to be done in an old crappy room that had decent lighting, but everything else was all wrong. One of my main backdrops ended up getting drity, and the other got stained. (Damn, I just bleached it, too!) The girl had a nice body, but she wasn’t really photogenic, and she was anything but in the mood for the kind of expressions I was after.

So, I’m working with her, and using my “everything’s calm and OK” voice. During the beginning of the shoot, she says she can’t give me the CFM look because she’s just not in the mood. She wasn’t willing to get in the mood with a room full of guys around, either, so I just winged it and made it a playful experience. Something is better than nothing.

Then she started doing things that told me she was not necessarily telling the truth. She was giving me some interesting looks, which would go away when I ducked behind the camera, so out came the cable release. She also started playing with a nipple, which I didn’t ask her to do. That stopped the second she realized what she was doing.

So we did about 77 shots, and nothing was going right. I decided, better to stopwithout boring the girl to tears and try again another time, than to bore the girl to tears and kill any chance of getting the shot I need.

On the way to a fast food restaraunt afterwards, she told us she was horny. I said, “What?! Where the hell did this come from? Why didn’t you tell me that before?”

Well, as it turned out, she was feeling shy in front of the camera, but she’d been aroused ever since the beginning of the shoot. “And that voice!” she said to me.

“What voice?” I had not realized I was using my relaxation voice. (AKA hypnosis voice, aka seduction voice)

“God, you have a sexy voice! I think that’s what got me going.”

I asked when she started getting aroused, and as it turns out, she was getting aroused the minute we were indoors, without a draft, and she was getting turned on before I started using the voice. Score one for the pheros.

I figured she must be bi, and later on after the shoot, I was proven correct. She told us she was equally attracted to both men and women.

Interesting.

Oh, and you should have seen it. My friend was being so subservient, she might as well have put a leash on him. I was cool and aloof, uninterested, and playful. She got mad at him for not introducing us sooner. I think it was major brownie points in her mind, too, that I knew what all her tattoos were of. (One was a crop circle design, and one was a mandala.)

I’m going to try this again for tomorrow’s re-shoot wearing A314 and LAM and see what happens.

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okay okay okay, not for nothing but…
how much more relaxed would she be if you told her to bring a female friend to the shoot? im just saying, you wearing the 'mones, her wanting to show off her stuff to her friend (when a guys shooting shes thinking look how he tells me to look … with her girl there, its "look? what look? this is FUN) and im only guessing that your going to meet her indoors for a gab before the shoot to let the pheros do their thing??? lol listen to me, like im going to be there! :smiley:

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I know you wanna be there. lol You do, admit it. :smiley:

Usually I have them bring female friends or whatever. Today, when she met me, we had a mutual friend present. But she requested that we do a re-shoot in her bedroom, “where the walls are pink” (and the ceiling isn’t a nauseous green that kills bounced flash), and that our mutual friend not be there. Maybe she has some naughty intentions.

Either that, or she trusts me a lot already, and she did seem uncomfortable allowing our mutual friend to be there since he’s got a thing for her. Given how I was being my usual professional self when I do photography, she probably decided she feels very comfortable with me, is not comfortable around him, and just wants to do some pics so she can get some she likes. lol But I definitely will be watching for pheromonal responses.

I think maybe I’ll hit her with 8 or 10 shots of CTTM and see how relaxed she gets. lmao

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you know, you may need a one woman special ops unit…i can provide gatorade and re-pheromoning services…im here for you,man! :stuck_out_tongue:

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Yo cat. I used a modified version of your mix with a lot of success this weekend.

3 sprays IH+alpha nol mix (1:1 ratio, CTTM2 emulator)
1 Drop EW dilution (Egyptian Musk:EW, 25:1 ratio)
2 Drops NPA
2 Drops A314 Mutant
2 Sprays IFM
2 Sprays EST

The point of this mix is to create a powerful sexual presence, and it really seems to do just that. It isn’t the most approachable mix out there, as the A314 and NPA can create quite a bit of tension, however, the CTTM emulator I threw together along with the EST and IFM do a good job of buffering the negative effects once you get a conversation going. Women seem captivated by everything you have to say while wearing this mix.

I must say that copulins have added a whole new dimension to my mixes. I feel more confident and assertive while wearing them, and there seems to be an attention grabbing quality to it as well.