Catlord,
Does the ylang ylang blend with the neroli scent of the instant line? I was thinking of getting some LAM on my next order but wondered if the neroli and the ylang ylang would be too much.
Sure, the neroli blends with the ylang ylang. And gets obliterated. Utterly.
Don’t expect to cover the ylang ylang. But, also don’t expect to have to really worry about it unless you seriously overdose.
Thanks for the reply. Hmmm, guess I need to go take a whiff of ylang ylang before I put my order in.
With copulins, you have a choice between cucumber melon (PCC), virtually scentless (W-9), parmesan cheese (EW) or cough syrup (LAM).
I’m told W-9 works well, but it didn’t work well for me. EW has always worked well for me, and at the dilutions I use isn’t difficult to cover. It also fades down nicely. LAM is almost impossible to cover, and smells like cough syrup (to me). My assistant says LAM smells like baby powder. I’ve never used PCC.
Also keep in mind, mine isn’t the best nose. 
Seduction Mix 2 - The Day After:
Took a shower today, and did not apply any pheromones. It was suggested to me that maybe my headaches are from pheromones. I know they’re not, but this was suggested by my know-it-all mother who is very much a rigid thinker, and she’ll never stop hounding me about it until I prove her wrong.
So no pheromones today.
But wow. None needed. Seduction Mix 2 seems to have a strong inertia. The distractant was so hot and bothered all day that once again, virtually nothing business related got accomplished. She was insatiable. Insane. Made herself physically sick playing so roughly the first time, and then came back for seconds and thirds, and tried to come back for fourths! (I said no by that point.) Then she went home and took care of it herself.
Even she was commenting that this was not like her. She’s very highly sexed, sure… but she was amazed that she’d said what she did to me yesterday about taking her home to have her, and how she was acting today…
I think overdosing on Seduction Mix 2 is definitely a train wreck waiting to happen. Get out of her way, because you’re gonna get run over! Maybe not such a good idea to overdose. 
Wow, awesome hit there Cat 
Can you describe the type and duration of contact you had with your distractant? Were you two together the whole day before when you used the 15 sprays, or was it periodic for short periods of time? I’d like to know if it was an all day affair (no pun intended LOL 
) or if you had consistent short-moderate intervals of exposure with her so that you reinforced your mone signature to her and, as you said, built up the inertia until her tea kettle overflowed!
Was she showing any escalation of IOIs throughout the period of exposure? Or was it a sudden, unexpected burst of her sexual urges overriding her composure and forcing her to ravage you? 
I haven’t had a chance to try out my LAM/AA314 mix over a longer duration of time as you have with your distractant. I’ll have to see if I can find an opportunity to spend several hours with a test subject …
you mean in a working environment? you boys are bad! funny thing, i always noticed guys being more into their work at work than the women. are you guys just real good at hiding inner dialogue, or are the men in my company truely not interested? lol!
If you really must know, Lor, we’re all busy thinking of new formulations for mone mixes when we have that serious, focused look at work. Then we can spend all our time in our labs when we get home to whip up those crazy mixes!
Seriously though, I sometimes test mixes when I go out to lunch with people. At work though, I tend to keep the mixes to the strictly friendly mixes so things don’t get out of hand! No sense in setting your bed on fire if you have to sleep in it, right?
Yesterday we went to every damned Sprint store and kiosk we could find, as well as every Radio Shack, looking for a battery for her POS phone. We were together for a long time, but I kept getting bored and wandering off. Most of the time, we were within arms reach, since I like to be able to put my arm around her. I guess it was a combination of long periods together, with short intervals apart thrown in at random.
It was about four hours in before she let loose with “Take me home…”. Then it was of and on for the rest of the night. I couldn’t do anything about it, so I just smiled.
But if she’d been someone I didn’t know, chances are she wouldn’t have said anything. It was pretty much a sudden burst of expression. Like a dam bursting. Like suddenly she wasn’t able to concentrate on business anymore. Suddenly the battery for her phone no longer mattered. Suddenly she was filled with desire.
But she’s not your average woman. She’s a very highly sexed woman, and she is always thinking about sex at some level. She’s also got excellent self control. She was on a mission. Was looking for a phone battery. But Mix 2 overrode her willpower in the end. I’m impressed. Yes, it was a rather sudden override of her willpower. But since her natural response to me is submission, she will only ask for it by name, she would never try anything on her own.
Guys are more into their work because they usually believe that without the cashola, ain’t nothin’ gonna make her head turn.They’re tryin’ for the females even when they’re not. lol
Well the mix I tried is certainly evovling on me.
1 Part IFM
1 Part EST (E1)
1 Part EW sandalwood:copulin dillution (25:1)
1 Part NPA
2 Parts IH
6 Parts Anol (5 mcg/spray)
I’m out of Ishine so I left it out and threw a bit of EST in instead
I wore this last night at my friends b/f’s condo for a 4th of july get together last night. I lowered the doses significantly mainly because I felt like I was having slight OD reactions with the previous mix…particularly with the beta and alpha nol. With the old mix I couldn’t shut up lol.
I’m also seeing better results with lower doses of IFM and EST…these ingredients work best for me as a subtle spice to the mix, not the main course.
I got a lot of attention from the ladies there last night, though I do think it could be a bit more sexual. A little more NPA perhaps, or maybe I should put the A314 back in. After I take my license test Friday, I’ll have more free time to go out and test…I’ve spent most of the last two weeks studying.
Isn’t EST the “snuggle” mone? I don’t know much about it just yet.
I’d give it maybe 2 parts more of NPA and 1 more part copulins… and sorry, man, but you need that IShine - 2-3 parts, minimum. And hell yes, keep that A314 in there! lol
At least… that’s what I’d do.
Seduction Mix 2 appears to be slow acting, but has very powerful and long lasting effects. In fact, the distractant reported being hyper-aroused today as well, even before I went to pick her up. Unfortunately for her, I was wearing six sprays of it again today, and the poor woman was just about insane with desire. I have concluded that Mix 2 is closing in on cruel and unusual punishment. Yes, it’s that good. I think the combination of A314 and LAM are the main culprits.
I also notice that whenever I get good results from a mix using copulins, I also have a heightened sense of pleasure awareness myself. It works against my willpower and makes it more difficult to keep the situation under control because the pleasure is so much more alive.
EW seems crude in comparison to LAM now that I have some experience with them both… both are effective, but one’s fast, obvious and in your face, whereas the other is slow, sensual, seductive, and much more complete in it’s effects. Compare having someone throw a brick at your head with having a building collapse on you. Both will get your attention, but one is more likely to be an “experience” than the other. I wonder what would happen if I used both?
Interestingly, neither EW nor LAM produces a strong, clear color association for me. EW gives me something yellow, while LAM gives me a russett reddish brown.
After giving it some thought, I realize that it is necessary to point out that just because I get astounding results from my mixes, does not mean that everyone else will.
Your results will be determined by your personal chemistry, your personal circumstances, and of course, your particular way of doing things.
For instance, if you’re in a committed relationship, and your SO is female, she may not appreciate suddenly detecting the scent of “another woman” all over you.
If you’re looking for a heterosexual woman, you may want to include more androstenone and reduce the amount of copulins present - I will be testing such a mix when I run out of Mix 2.
If you’re not able to spend enough time out and about, you need to find a way to interact with women in a longer term situation.
If you don’t know how to handle the attraction a woman may be feeling for you, you’ll need to learn to deal with that. And so on.
Furthermore, not every woman will be aroused by copulins, regardless of her sexual orientation. Or any other particular pheromone or phero-like substance, for that matter.
Additionally, every woman will express herself differently, and you not only have to know how to read her signals, but you have to consider what your social situation is, how comfortable she is with you, and how highly sexed she is. It’s much easier to get astounding results from an astoundingly sexual woman.
I get the results I do from my “distractant” because she is the right kind of woman for the mix, and she is comfortable with me. I know how to read her like a book. She is about as highly sexed as a woman gets without losing self control. And she’s also “wired” to respond to copulins.
So if any of you are expecting that every woman out there is going to jump out of her panties and rape you after smelling one of my mixes, think again. Sure, you could encounter a woman who might do exactly that, but don’t expect it. Expect that some women will be repulsed, some women will not respond, some women will be attracted, and some women will go nuts. And expect it to be a bell curve distribution, too. I just happen to have a lot of friends who respond to my mixes. (Or maybe I am mixing to their tastes because they are who I have available to experiment on?)
I know it’s easy to look at what I write and either blow it off as lies because it sounds impossible, or to expect every woman to respond this way, but don’t. What I write here really is what I experience (and sometimes I leave things out that are over the top, too!), but it’s not going to be what everyone experiences - or even what I experience from everyone. There is no magic bullet. You have to find the woman who responds to the mix, regardless of which mix you use.
Today’s experiment was another dose of 6 sprays Seduction 2 to the forearms. And once again, no matter what we did, the distractant could not stop wanting more. She even commented on this afterwards. “I know I’ve had enough to satisfy me, but I still want more!” She also told me that she was so aroused the day before that the day before, she had to take care of herself 27 times (yes, you read that right, twenty seven times) before I picked her up, and once again, after I dropped her off. In addition to everything that happened when we were together. According to her, she never had more than 13 times in one day by herself before. In her life.
I have taken a natural nymphomaniac and turned her into something else entirely. Cruel and unusual punishment, indeed. I think I’ve overshot the mark on this one. Unfortunately for her, I still have half my test mix left to use. 
I should take a break from testing this around her for a little while, since it’s not fair to her to be under such insatiable sexual tension all the time.
By the way, lest you think, based on my sex and my comments about copulins making it harder for me to maintain self control that I am simply not satisfying the woman, consider this: She typically asks me to stop so she can rest, breathe and re-hydrate. Not blowing my horn, here - she’s incredibly orgasmic, which makes it vastly easier on my part. But just because it’s more difficult to maintain self control, doesn’t mean I can’t or don’t.
I haven’t noticed it being a snuggle mone, but it does have some seem to put everyone in good spirits
Wore this mix to a club last night:
1 spray IFM
1 spray EST
2 parts NPA
1 drop EW: sandalwood dilution
2 sprays IH
6 sprays alphanol (5mcg/spray)
Its actually the same mix with an extra drop of NPA…kinda pointless to retype all that out eh?
I had some very nice results from this mix last night. The ladies were diggin me .
Testing in clubs is great, because towards the end of the night when everyone is thoroughly drunk, the hits becomes far more apparant. Pheromone use at its best if you ask me.
I’ve had IFM for a while now, but I haven’t seen the same kind of effects mentioned here until testing it at a significantly lower doses. I’ve actually had instances where I’ve OD’d on LS’s chemset A1, though you rarely hear any talk of that. Anyway, now that I’ve found my groove with IFM using just a single spray, its showing quite a lot of promise.
I do miss IS. I honestly didn’t see any major reactions from others while wearing it, but I really liked the way I feel while wearing it. I was going to pick up an extra bottle of IS, but opted to pick up the safari mix instead. I felt more inclined to try something new (hopefully I made the right choice lol)
I think I’m going to keep A314 out of the mix. What I really like about this mix is that its very sexual, while being very open, free-spirited, and fun.
Yes, I agree, a little social lubricant certainly does wonders for the hits. I don’t find myself in situations very often that I can put that into effect. All my friends are either moved away or not willing to drive the 45 minutes each direction to go find a club. My area has one place to go dancing, and then only Fri-Sat-Sun nights, and the dance floor is outside. Go figure.
You are making a mix in a spray bottle, or on yourself? Two drops NPA seems like one heck of a lot for a single application. You say “parts” in the mix, and “drops” later. 
I noticed that Liquid Lust had a very carefree playful attitude to it, which is probably considerably dampened by the IFM and A314. IFM seems to cause relaxed glowiness, and A314 seems to be a bit of a serious note. I like the way they interact with the mix, but you’re probably having more “fun” without the A314 bringing in the seriousness.
Interesting that you get better results with lower doses of IFM. I haven’t really finished testing IFM yet by itself. But IShine is great for the “be close to me” effect, which seems to be most obvious with women who are interested. I look forward to seeing how this mix works for you with IShine added. Have you tried using an Androtics 'none product instead of NPA?
Initially I was mixing the products in a bottle…I’ve been kind of lazy about pre-mixing everything so I’ve been applying each product separately. I’ve always had better results applying everything separately though.
The premixed batch I made before had some good effects, but it felt a little out of whack to me sometimes. All the alpha and betanol made me talk my head off, though I was met with the seriousness of the A314. This batch seems more balanced.
Though none for me is saved for only certain occasions, when I do wear it, I’ve always been able to wear quite a lot of it. I go all out with androstenone at clubs…seems to work well with me.
The only none product from Androtics that I’ve tried has been Ammunition, which I like a lot. Its still a product I use when I’m in a rush, or need a quick re-application.
Ironically enough, I literally had a hit just now (while in the process of typing this thread lol) using an ammunition combo I slapped on earlier. 2 Sprays Ammunition, 1 Spray IFM, 1 Drop EW copulin dilution. I’m on my laptop in a coffee shop right now “studying” for my license exam. At any rate my friend walked in earlier with his girlfriend, whom I’ve me a few times, but hardly spoke a word to before. I saw them last night at the club, so we sat around talking about the events that transpired the night before. My friend eventually makes his way outside (where he is now) to meet up with friends, while his girlfriend stuck around and talked with me for a while longer. She’s eventually sitting sideways next to me with her head leaning on the cushions, playing with her hair. I, at this time felt pretty awkward by the whole situation, considering my friend was just outside. I will say that she seems much cuter once having spoken to her.
k submitting now because he’s coming back lol
Last night, my friend Sarah showed up and to make a long story short, on her way through travelling to Georgia, she stopped and wanted to see what my Seduction mix smelled like. I put six sprays on her (3 per forearm). IM conversation I just had:
Me: Got anything more to report about the spray I put on you?
Sarah: yeah actually
Sarah: first of all, as i told you already, once was not enough for me! lol
Me: and?
Sarah: i did it twice in the car, then when i got here i ended up doing it with <name withheld> (and it was the best we have had in a loooooong time, WOW) and i came once in the beginning, much faster than normal, though i did accomplish it the usual way (touching myself) and then i came AGAIN right before he did, without any touching! For me, thats remarkable
Me: Mind if I post that on the phero-talk board? lol
Sarah: sure
Me: <Distractant> asks if you’ve noticed any increased sensitivity in your nipples?
Sarah: oh yes!!! Last night while i was driving i remembered ou said hers were, so i tested it out and i about jumped out of my skin, and literally shouted out loud laugh
Sarah: the guy driving next to me probably thought i was nuts
Distractant: This mix is deadly, I don’t think you should release it to the general public.
Me: It’s out there, babe. Too late.
what was she wearing?
I think that I am going to end up getting TUTH even though none doesn’t typically work well for me… or maybe even Raw Power… just to experiment with and use in my mixes. I’m thinking that this mix would work best for guys if it had a 2:1 or 3:1 (possibly even 4:1) ratio of none:cops.
After testing it out on my friend Sarah directly, I think a good version of this for the ladies to wear for attracting men would be without the none and A314.