Wow. Talk about your foul smell. adding two drops of EW… ugh.
It and the Ylang Ylang combine to create a scent strongly reminiscentof a dirty horse stall. Whew… six drops of APC AND two sprays of Akuto to cover that smell.
I don’t recommend it. Now I have to figure out what to do with 4 ml of awful smelling pheromones.
How strange..
I have two bottles of “doctored” LAM. One with the Ylang Ylang scent additive, and one with the chocolate-praline scent, and both have an entire bottle of EW added to them.
Both smell just fine even IN the bottle, and after around ten minutes of applying the drops to the skin, there is only the very faintest scent left, then as always, I apply an appropriate cover scent.
I use the Ylang Ylang one when I wear Monoi, Lei or vannilic fragrances such as Boudoir, and the chocolate-praline one when I wear Pink Sugar, Fresh Index’s Fleurs De Chocolat, or other Gourmand fragrances.
I also have several mixes, incorporating one or the other of my doctored versions of LAM, and they smell great and give fantasrtic results.
“The Man” has a nose that is extremely sensitive, as do I, and if the stuff I make and wear smelled bad, I would soon know it.
I wonder why on earth your couple of drops of EW turned your LAM so bad…
Ail 
I can attest to the stank power of EW as well. I have been trying out EW based/enhanced mixes, and I have never been able to completely eliminate the strong acidic smell of that particular copulin soup. The best that I have been able to cover it up with are with cover scents like Akuto which create a synergistic balance with copulins (if you’re going to go all out, go all out in style 
) or strong scented components that mix well with acidic type scents such as cucumber and vanilla. It won’t completely kill the EW scent, but it will significantly diminish its power.
One thing to keep in mind is that the initial EW stank goes away in 2-10 minutes depending on the cover scent used and the dispersal rate of the mix. I’ve had some mixes clear up in a few minutes without a cover scent, which may or may not be acceptable depending on the situation. I have actually found that the mix that was giving me amplified neroli scent issues was very well suited for reducing the stank of EW mixes.
Most of my EW mixes range from 1:22 to 1:28 concentration (1 drop to every 22 drops mix or 1 drop to every 28 drops mix). I have had some extremely strong hits with these mixes though, so it definitely works very well. If there were a way to remove the putrid acids without impacting the effectiveness of the rest of the copulins, EW could become very powerful in mixes 
It should be obvious that EW based mixes are definitely not work safe from the stank aspect alone!
I understand what I did wrong last time, now. I didn’t allow it to dry down before I tried to cover it, and the cover scent was APC - which was DPG based, and both didn’t allow it to dry down, and clashed.
Today, I wore 8 drops of Mix 4 and allowed it to dry down, with no cover scent. I did use 1 spray of Akuto to my neck, but I applied the Mix 4 to my forearms. Once it dried down, it was fine. How silly of me.
I had a chance to test it, too. My mother, grandfather and I went to a Chinese restaraunt. It was one of those “all you can eat” buffet style ones. The wait staff we got was a young man, who seated us, and then disappeared. Normally, they check up on you, but not him. I got the feeling I made him slightly uneasy.
Later on, we had a female staff member begin waiting on us, rather spontaneously. She seemed a little intimidated at first, and focusedon me slightly more than anyone else. At first, she seemed eager to be away from us (me?), but as time went on, she began coming over more and spending more time with us. And doing more for us, until she was pouring creamer for us, reaching across the table to get sugar that was 3 feet closer to my grandfather (who it was for), and so on. (She had to reach across me to get to his coffee.)
When the time came to pay, mom was going to pay (she invited us all out), and she had placed the money in the middle of the table. She assumed I was paying, and addressed me with a request for any more food I might be interested in, but did this to nobody else, before taking the money. She also acted toward me as if I was someone of great importance, and made the returning of the change a rather interesting act of gracious submission, almost as if she was doing some sort of ceremonial offering. Neither mom nor grandpa got this appeasement response, and I got the impression she was doing all that to fix my grandfather’s coffee because:
A - It gave her an excuse to lean in closer to me, and
B - She was trying to be good to my elder as a display of respect to both him and me. (She didn’t go to any such lengths to serve any other customers - I watched her all night!)
Interestingly, the response was more respect than attraction… if she was feeling attraction, it was very well kept to herself. Even the Chinese women give subtle signals when they are interested, and I did not see any that really suggested attraction. Just respect.
Also interestingly, Mix 4 seems to make me more confident, and I had a similar response from a different waitress last night, at a pizza place. She didn’t spend much time in my mone cloud, but I cought her giving me surreptitious glances from the counter, and treating me as the man to respect, even though - again - I wasn’t the one to pay. Her glances again were not attraction based… more like, “What is it about him?” That was the impression I got, but I could not tell if it was good or bad.
Later this evening, I had a friend drop by. This is one of the women I exposed to Mix 2, who ended up having the same response the distractant had. (Not with me, though.) I was wearing six fresh drops, but we only had a half an hour to chat, and Seduction takes longer than that to kick in. So after about 15 minutes, I put a single drop of Mix 4 right on her upper lip.
Her description of it was interesting. She said it enhanced the feeling of pleasure she had from being around me, and that it reminded her of Pherlure, but instead of being a “punch” like Pherlure was, this was a diffused cloud of arousal. She is, by the way, one of the women I know who goes positively NUTS if I wear Pherlure. She was the first woman I tried it on, and the first to try to steal my bottle of Pherlure from me.
It seems to me very likely that Pherlure contains either TAL or TAH, probably the former, but is more than just that. Seduction Mix 4 seems to be a good low key “sexiness” enhancer in a high value sort of way, but is not a raw arousal as was Mix 2. I suspect it has too much A314 for the women I have encountered so far.
I am going to have to experiment with higher doses of EW, if you’re getting good strong hits with 1:22 dilution, Joker. And by the way, Ail, it was interesting that I think that Mix 4 smells awful, but every woman I have asked thinks it only smells like cough syrup, or actually likes the scent. I strongly suspect it’s just a matter of which sex your nose is, and whether it’s dried down yet.
I have a mix that’s based on Mix 2, which I am thinking will actually enhance its effects. It is:
20 drops A314
35 drops LAM
2 ml Instant Shine
1 ml CTTM2
1 ml IFM
It’s simpler, but I think that is what I’m going to use for Mix 5. I’m also thinking maybe 1.5 ml CTTM2 and 1.5 ml IShine might be good too.
Well, I mixed up a bottle of Mix 5, and put on six drops. Wow.
It smells good, for one. A little bit like a faint licorice scent. Put it on, and it’s mostly like IShine. And it’s had me feeling like I have sun falling directly on my shoulders for a couple hours now. I must either have flushed there or the heat sensitive nerves are getting action. Interesting.
I have had two occasions to test Mix 5 now. The first time was optimal, technically. I went to a movie theater and sat next to a female friend who has shown response to Androtics products in the past, especially IShine. I had 12 drops on, 6 applied right before, 6 applied 40 minutes before that. We sat next to eachother in the theater for a couple hours during the movie, and… nothing. Nothing I could see, anyway.
She and I are both without sexual partners at the moment, and we have been lovers before, but we had a bit of a spat a while back and I suspect she is waiting for me to ask for it. Anyway, after the movie, I gave her a sample bottle, and put one drop on her upper lip. I gave her a sample so she can see if it works for bisexual women.
We headed back to her house after that, and by the time we got there, she was giddy and flirtacious and playful, but reported no noticeable sexual arousal. I thought that was odd, but it is entirely possible that she was simply being reserved because we had that spat. I know I was being reserved about the whole sexual thing. I’m quite sure we’d have had sex if it weren’t for that, whether or not she had been affected by Seduction, but I am continually amazed at the ability of a woman to shut herself down based on emotional responses.
The second time was today. I went to class today and wore 6 drops. I applied under the table in class, but class only lasted 20 minutes. The girl to my right seemed nonplussed, and the one to my left seemed confused. I think she was becoming uncomfortable with her responses, and was consciously seeking to hide them. I was certainly more confident and outgoing, and was willing to speak up several times when nobody elsew would or could. It’s a photography class, so we were studying images and trying to decipher how they were made, how many lights were used, where the lights were placed, what kind of lights they were, lens used, lens length, etc. To everyone’s surprise, including mine, I kept nailing it even when everyone else was stumped.
Then I went to the library where I got some good hits from a black girl and a white girl I had never met. Again, I was more outgoing. Conversations seemed a breeze to start and keep going. I caught the white girl turning around to look at me several times, but she left before I could really get her affected much. The black girl was becoming very aroused after about 30 minutes, as was evidenced by her body language. She began doing the arms over head playing in hair chest thrust out CFM poses, apparently completely oblivious to the fact that she was giving CFM body language. We got into conversation and were having a good time talking and laughing, and after a while she said, almost as if she was in a trance, “I’m not getting any work done… I have to go to the bathroom, I’ll be right back.” She left her stuff behind and walked off, never to return before I had to leave. I was there about fifteen minutes longer trying to get my laptop working before I decided to try using a different electrical outlet somewhere else.
I of course can’t be sure why she was gone so long, but it’s interesting how many women seem to head for the bathroom and stay there for extended periods of time after giving CFM body language.
Mix 5 rocks for bringing me out of my shell and giving me confidence, apparently.
same reason why men spend extended periods of time in the toilet after watching porn
That would be my guess, but I cannot, of course be certain. Just ask Lor. 
*points finger to Lor *
Galfriend…, u got alot of answering to do
I haven’t done much testing of Mix 5, none since the last post, but I have only been in public once since then, and that was today. I didn’t wear Mix 5, or any Seduction mix. Instead, I wore Pherlure. But while I got some good responses from it, I’m interested in this Mix 6 that I have recently come up with. Mix 6 has 10 different pheromone products in it, with many of them having more than one pheromone in them. I don’t know how many pheromones are in it total, but it’s going to be interesting to test. It’s supposed to be sexy, and appeal to heterosexual women more than bisexual or homosexual women. So far I haven’t had a chance to expose anyone but one of my “sniffers” and she only for a moment.
I’m getting ideas faster than I can test them at this point… I already have plans for how I’m going to make Mix 7. lol Beginning to think I should make experimental mixes and send them to others to test for me.
It’s getting to be difficult to tell which mix or product I should use in any given situation, since I have two or three that fit almost every possible situation now!
Today I wore Mix 6 to school. I applied it as I left, since it needs to dry down a bit before you can’t smell it. It takes me 1.5 hours to drive to school, so it was mellowed by the time I got there. Applied another time before I got out of my car. Total of 8 sprays to the forearms.
First class, I came in late and sat down. Couldn’t sit next to the girl I wanted to, but it’s all good. Noticed that the instructor was treating me differently than everyone else. I found it odd that he seemed to be acting as if I were a “fellow photographer” instead of a “student photographer”. Granted, the man likes my work, but he has not seen very much of it. During class, though, he was always looking to me first to answer his questions, and he tended to give me preferential treatment in how he referred to various things. “You know this, Shannon, but for the rest of you…” That kind of thing. I felt like I was “above” everyone else in status somehow.
Then I headed to the library. I like to go to the library and watch people, especially how they respond to pheromones. Today I observed a couple of 20-somethings, and noted that once my mone cloud hit them, they began giving different body language. One started wagging her leg immediately, and by the time the other one started, the first one was almost bouncing in her seat. This usually indicates some sort of subconscious response. I see it a lot with sexual arousal that has not consciously made itself known yet.
Then I went to the upstairs when the computer I was on died, and had to sit down at the end of the long table where students with laptops usually go in order to be at all close to any females. The only one present was very cute, but with a very affectionate boyfriend. I saw him touching (kino-ing? lol) her after I had been there a few minutes. I wondered if he might have been asserting his place in the presence of someone with a much stronger phero-signature. But for the most part, I got lost in my study.
I did have a guy come out of nowhere to gush about me being a photographer, talk about my camera, and generally pick my brain and act like a fan. He was very enthusiastic. It was interesting because I never have this type of response from people. I wasn’t even in a very likely place to be discovered.
Then I went to my second class. On the way, I walked past a woman who was teasing another woman about walking so fast to get to the bathroom, and I had to chuckle. When the woman took a hard left into the bathroom, I made the comment, “Hard left!” and the woman I was walking past laughed. Then I passed her and kept going. About fifteen feet away, she says, “Are you a photographer?” and struck up a conversation with me. Then she asked me if I would be willing to shoot her head shots, and agreed to model for me in exchange. Turns out she’s a Theater major, from Columbia. Not bad looking, but not a beauty queen, either. Perfectly serviceable for stock photography though, and definitely a foot in the door to making more friends. She asked for my e-mail and IM, and gave me her e-mail address. I have to say I like how hispanic women can be proactive.
Next class, same instructor. I always get there late, in spite of my best intentions. I sat down and he began class, and I had him standing behind me within my phero cloud. The whole class, he was within my phero cloud, probably because the “classroom” is so small. But he began doing something interesting. As he was more and more affected, he began teaching not to the class, but to me, and then asking the class to listen as he did. In fact he even initiated kino (Hee hee, I love teasing Ail) and touched me on the shoulder to get my attention three times during class when he wanted to show me how to do something or other with Photoshop. The man NEVER touches people, at least not that I have seen. But his touching was as if he was dealing with a friend and equal and he wanted my attention.
I also caught a couple girls giving me exceptional attention. One was a tall brunette, and every time I looked up from the image I was working with, she was staring at me, and quickly looked away. The other was a short Jewish girl, who seemed more interested in talking than usual. She came over and instead of leaving, she stood behind me and waited for me and the guy next to me to leave, and I ended up walking her to her car while having some nice conversation.
Now here’s the kicker… on a normal day… NONE of these things happen. This is the first time I have had a decent chance to test Mix 6. If this is what it does, I like it!
I’ve noticed with certain pheremone mixes, that whenever I see a couple.. the girl will stare at me and then the guy will usually immediately get affectionate and then look at me. Geeez.
Funny thing is is when I have my camera with me with that Canon 70-200mm F/2.5 lens, people act like fans and treat me like a professional photographer. It can be fun at times talking to them, though after awhile it does get very annoying=) Actually the last person who did it to me was a native mexican woman who was trying to promote her daughter in her Triathlon event. So in some ways it is definetely a benefit.
A question on the side.. what sort of school and type of courses are you taking? I take it you’d have to go to a specialized school geared just for that or is it an actual college?
I have never noticed this response from a man before… and it didn’t make sense because SHE wasn’t paying attention to me! That’s why I thought maybe he sensed my mone cloud and became insecure or something. But if that’s what happened, it suggests that Mix 6 is perceived as a threat to other men, and therefore, it would seem to be a good mix.
I get people asking me about my camera, am I a photographer, etc. once in a while… but never this enthusiastic, and never acting like fans. And They never stick around past the logical end of a conversation trying to figure out new stuff to ask about just so they can keep talking. I find it amusing that a lot of people see an SLR, and they automatically think professional, and the bigger the lens, the more professional they expect. Granted, those big lenses at the extreme end are ridiculously expensive… sometimes as much as $75,000 each… but you never see those except at sporting events or on wildlife photographers’ cameras. I usually use the IS 28-135 and people are still amazed.
I’m attending a four year college taking courses towards a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Photography. Not what I had originally intended, but it’s the closest thing to me. I attend Florida Atlantic University, which is not a specialized school. For that I’d have to travel beyond my means, and move, which is currently also beyond my means, even though I’d dearly love to.
I am about to go out with a couple of girls I know. One is a long time friend, one is an odd combination of certain extraordinarily rare features that I dearly love in a woman, and certain features I cannot handle for very long. I can’t make up my mind as to whether or not I’m attracted. I’m going to apply 4 sprays of Mix 6 and see what happens.
Okay, just got back. I went with 8 sprays of Mix 6. 8 sprays all at once is a but much, methinks. I was feeling warm all over my face, probably from the P79. I am presuming that feeling warm from P79 indicates overdose for me.
I was with the two women in a minivan, and it was windows up. I was sitting in the back, but leaning into the front.
I noticed that the girl I was interested in seeing the reaction of was feeling very comfortable around me, and she kept noticing guys she was attracted to. The only thing I can think of is that if the mix was affecting her, she was not associating the effects with me because she’s decided I’m in the friend zone. (And with her being married, engaged, dating, and playing on the side, I don’t have all that much problem with being in the friend zone…)
The other one, though, told me flat out when we stopped for gas and were alone, that she knew I was wearing something and she knew because it had turned her on to the point that she noticed she was wet, her nipples got hard, and she was horny. She’s one who responds well to Pherlure, and has responded well to previous Seduction mixes, so this isn’t a big surprise, but… what did surprise me was that she said it was “at least as good as Pherlure, if not better”. That I have never heard from her before. That stunned me.
Come to think of it, I’d have had no idea she was turned on if she didn’t tell me, so I guess I’ll have to ask her to find out what it did to the redhead.
I think four sprays will be next time, I’m running low on Mix 6, but I love it. Hell, maybe I have figured out what’s in Pherlure after all.
Since I’m almost out of Mix 6, the exact formula to which shall remain a secret, I have decided to try a new mix, this time leaving out two components I have used in almost every mix thus far: A314 and copulins.
Mix #7 is a fairly simple formula:
1 part P79 (2.5 mcg/spray)
2 parts Instant Female Magic
3 parts Instant Shine
4 Parts Instant Openness
It smells good to me… and it definitely has a neuro-influence effect. I can feel it when I smell it. I theorize that this mix should have all the effects of Liquid Lust, and that the P79 should make it interesting in other ways, too. I also predict this will be one that hetero women respond beautifully to. Kinda wish I could do like 10 mcg per spray instead of using 2.5 in a 1/10th part of the mix.
First test of Mix #7: The Post Office.
I had an order from the United Kingdom to ship out, so I went to the post office. Our PO here is about 1/4th as big as it needs to be, and we see long lines all the time. Which is great for me, because it lets me have a chance to run phero 'speriments. 
Since the ingredients in Mix #7 are fairly fugitive, I applied it right before I got to the post office. 2 sprays neck, 2 sprays each forearm. By the time I walked in, it had dried down.
I got in line behind a woman who looked like she was in her 60’s. She didn’t notice me, because she was turned the other direction, and I tend to walk quietly. So with no indication of my presence, I stood and waited. Within 20 seconds, she turned her head about 45 degrees to her right, paused, then 45 more degrees, then paused, then another 45 degrees and looked at me. I smiled at her, she smiled back, and turned around again.
About 20 seconds later, she turns around and looks again, and the guy in front of her turns to look at me briefly, too.
Then another woman, probably late 40’s, early 50’s, walks in and gets in line behind me. Within five seconds, she starts a conversation with me, and the woman in front of me joins in. This of course wasn’t necessarily a hit, but it was interesting because it usually doesn’t happen.
The conversation petered out, but by the time I was called to be served, she had started a conversation with me no less than five (5) times! She even started looking for things to talk about. “England, huh? Who do you know in England? I’ve been there, have you? Beautiful place…” was my favorite. She was grabbing at straws by that point.
While waiting, I noticed that several other people further ahead of me started turning to look at me in a progressive line of distance and time as the pheros expanded. People started talking more, too.
The mix makes me feel really good. It made me happy, and I relaxed and felt more comfortable in socializing. When I got to the counter, there was a bowl of mints, but only the wrappers were left. With a cocky/funny tone (which caught me by surprise, because it was entirely off the cuff, not like me usually) blurted out, “Oh, free mint wrappers, I love it!” The woman behind the counter laughed, and went to get some more. She was very positively affected by the pheromones, and for the first time since I had arrived, she began smiling. Every time I wear a mix heavy in Alpha Nol and IShine, I and the people around me are noticeably uplifted.
I noticed no overtly sexual responses, which does not surprise me, but I have to say this mix definitely does three things:
If the woman who was talking to me had been unmarried, and closer to my age, it would have been simplicity itself to go have a coffee with her or something. It was a very pleasant “I enjoy socializing with you” vibe. I can’t wait to try this around younger women.
I wonder if the p79 has any effect at the levels I am using? Maybe I should do a 1:1:1:1 mix of these four.
Hey Catlord interesting mix I am trying similar mixes. I think you really should add sprays of P79 as you go through the day (10 mcg maybe every hour and a half). P79 on my skin does not last longer than 2 hours in my opinion. On the other hand, Instant Female Magic lasts all day and more for me (I had some hits 19 hours including sleep after application of this one last week). IS and Instant Openness will last you 4-6 hours I think. When you mix them like this you will have a completelky different mix in 3 hours for example.
I’d be interested in what you see with P79-it is quite new and a pretty unknown product after all.
Visionary
I have been thinking exactly the same thing… I should be using sprays instead of mixing them all together. Not just so I get the modularity of the different pheromones, but also so I can switch up more often without wasting anything.
P79 overdoses cause effects that last as long as 24 hours on me… I don’t know if that’s the p79 itself, or the effects, but they last hours at least… In fact, my second test of Mix 6 didn’t seem to peak in effect until four hours after I put it on… it was like I was getting woozy and oddly not all there.
I have theorized that something close to my idea of a perfect mix would be something like this:
1-2 sprays TUTH (2.5 mcg/spray)
1-2 drops A314
1 spray copulin dilution
4 sprays Instant Openness
2-3 sprays Instant Female Magic
2-3 sprays Instant Shine
That would seem to have it all; attention getting, sexual spice, icebreaking, high value, playful, fun, popular, comfortable… I think that will be my next few mixes, as soon as I get my bottle of TUTH.
Maybe throw some P79 in there too.