# Liquid Scream - The Logbook **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [May 22, 2008, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973 "2008-05-22T08:58:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/1 "2008-05-22T08:58:32Z")
**Who am I?** Name: Call me v0m1t. Age: Little shy of 24. Sex: Only with women and I am hetrosexual. Ethnicity: Brown Indian (…as opposed to red???) Country: India (Do boundries really mean anything?) Height: 5’11. Above average. Weight: 167 lb… or 76 kg in human readable format. Occupation: Operational Manager in sales department. Basic job profile is to terrorize people older than me. Status: Alpha Male with emotional rollercoaster. Sensitivity, humor, fear, lone wolf, lovable, talkative, jerkness… They all seem to surface randomly. Speculation: I think I am already creating a lot of -none on my own. When I dont smile or look emotionally neutral, I create a ghost like effect and no stranger makes an eye contact ever. When I do, I am usually bombarded with ‘sir’ usually from customer executives, but more than normal. Also I stay a little grumpy most of the time. Not often though. I am probably skinning the hair here. Read on! ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/2 "2008-05-22T09:29:11Z")
Knowledge is power… but action gets things done! **Getting Started** Applied pheromone at 4pm. Went to a supermarket at around 5-5:30, dentist. No specific target. Climate is hot and humid as always. 30°C and humidity at 74%. I also rode my motorcycle so add a little wind into factor. **Purpose** First test with A314 and [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in general. **Mix | Application** A314, one drop on left wrist, smeared with right wrist. **Results** Some random looks and eye contact from both gender. Nothing special and definatly no head turners. Went for a dentist appointment at around 6:00. Now this is not my regular dentist and I am visitng her for first time. Dr is probably in her early 30s. She seemed very nice and sweet person. Had a light chat with her.. nothing personal on her end though. I made her sniff my wrist to try out my ‘perfume’.. This is interesting, she was taken aback as soon as her nose reached my left wrist… She told me the smell was too strong. Not judgmental good or bad, just too strong! Infact she asked her assistant to take a sniff, which I thought was a bit unusual. The assistant was probably in her mid 40s, and she thought the smell was alright. Not too strong or too light. I had to tell the doctor I was making the perfume when she asked me where I tried it out 😛 erm… anyhow. **Reflection** The result was exactly what I thought it would be… A failure in terms of hits. Now this was my first day of using pheromones and just used one drop of A314… Btw its 10:20PM right now, and the fragrance is still on me. I also kept sniffining it throughout the day, since I have a tendency of playing with my chin 🙂 Also reporting a bit of sleepiness at an odd hour _yawn_ Tomorrow two drops. Also Jay would be with me in evening. ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/3 "2008-05-22T17:32:26Z")
…BAH I am so tempted to try out 3 shots of IShine and 2 drops of a314 tomorrow. someone PLEASE tell me to stick to my experiment of +1 drop each day and to stay the hell away from Ishine. :-/ ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/4 "2008-05-22T21:01:21Z")
Nothing wrong with a “newbie baptism” we all did it. Just don’t be too flustered if it doesn’t work and come back to your testing plan knowing that you tried 3sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and 2 drops of A314. It’s a good combo and might give you a better insight into what you are looking for/at. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/5 "2008-05-22T21:15:27Z")
Yes i agreed with my buddy renny there. v0m1t don’t lose up hope when you didn’t get results at first. Keep on trying & eventually you will get your results. Must have patience there 🙂 Good post btw 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/6 "2008-05-22T23:55:45Z")
I don’t know the breadth of your experience with pheromones (sorry, I haven’t read all your previous posts) But if those two experiences are your first ones, I would recommend staying the course until the week is over. Eventually you’ll get that AH-HA moment! ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/7 "2008-05-23T18:21:50Z")
Day 2 **Getting Started** Weather same as yesterday.. Broke my code and tried both A314 and instant shine (detail below). At this point I am just looking for changes in body language and subtle iois. I dont expect anyone to come and talk to me and I wont go and chat anyone up because that will skew the results… but I want some hard eye contact, even DIHL, to confirm that it works! **Mix | Application** A314, 2 drops. 1 on each wrist. 11:00 am. A314, 1 drop split on wrist. 05:00 pm. A314, 1 drop split on wrist. 08:00 pm. Instant shine (to-go), 1 spray on right side of neck. **Results** 3 random men friendly-curious-stared at me between 02:00 and 04:00. They wouldnt break the eye contact… not a DIHL though. They seemed like alpha-males. No eye contacts with any women. Went out with Jay at 09:30 for some drink. He seemed a little cranky at first but mellowed out at after 30 mins or so (not had a lot of drinks though)… but I wouldnt read into that so much because he does have an impulsive personality. **Reflection** I guess the kind of effect I am looking for will not work with A314 or instant shine combined.. or on their own. I NEED AMMO AND INSTANT OPENNESS! Also this is something unusual. Yesterday on my first application… the scent of A314, one drop, stayed on me the whole day. It was there even as I went to bed and I kept sniffing it the whole time. That was a good 9 hour. Today, the scent seemed to fade away after 30mins or so. After a few hour it was extremely light. Infact I almost have to touch my nose to the wrist to get a good wiff. Dont know if it means anything, but it is an oddity that should go in the journal! P.S. No self effect on instant shine.. although it did smell nice. Probably because I under-dosed? (togo bottle sprays 80% of regular and people here spray 3-4 times usually) Until I post again… ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/8 "2008-05-23T20:41:18Z")
Honestly, even with Ammo or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), if you do not intend to talk to anyone, that will be communicated in your body language, and thus turn away some people that might have approached otherwise. Especially with a314. With a314 the ball is ALWAYS in your court, you MUST make the move, otherwise you won’t see the results you’re looking for. I’m not sure what situation you are wearing pheromones in, but I find that while I can get good hits while passing by someone, there are greater shifts in behavior once the target is exposed to the pheromones for a small period of time. Usually, that means having to chat with someone for a bit. Unfortunately, talking with other people is the best way to see hits, doubly so with a314. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/9 "2008-05-25T20:10:01Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > Honestly, even with Ammo or Instant Openness, if you do not intend to talk to anyone, that will be communicated in your body language, and thus turn away some people that might have approached otherwise. > > Especially with A314. With A314 the ball is ALWAYS in your court, you MUST make the move, otherwise you won’t see the results you’re looking for. I’m not sure what situation you are wearing pheromones in, but I find that while I can get good hits while passing by someone, there are greater shifts in behavior once the target is exposed to the pheromones for a small period of time. > > Usually, that means having to chat with someone for a bit. Unfortunately, talking with other people is the best way to see hits, doubly so with A314. I agreed with what you have said there buddy 🙂 Wise Phya 😃 v0m1t take notice on what he have said there & carry on with your testing 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/10 "2008-05-28T19:25:46Z")
The A314 based oils and sprays are not good if you are “unapproachable” already, unless you want to give off that vibe. People just will not approach you. It makes you too royal to approach, especially with higher dosages. They will talk to you if you start a conversation, but treat you with alot of respect. It’s like putting one of those “Take a number and wait” signs up on your head. Very formal and to the point. If that’s not your style, you can use less A314 and add instant openness, use Ammo as a base, and so on. There are alot of options besides using A314. Pheromones work fastest on people that don’t know you well. On people you know, you have to be closer to them and expose them longer to the pheromones. The effect is quite subtle and sometimes it takes repeated or longer exposure periods to influence people. You can’t see a person and assume “oh, I am influencing them”. It works best in conversations lasting at least a minute or more, and greatest effects seem to be in long conversations. Tailor the dosage accordingly (the more brief, the more you need). Also the appropriate dosage seems to vary by culture as well. In cultures that are very stand-offish and like alot of personal space, you will need more pheromones than in cultures that have less personal space and get very close to you. Too much in those situations might produce unusual, almost “drug like” effects. ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/11 "2008-06-01T07:56:09Z")
Good points… Just want to let you all know that I am still around and doing a lot of testings. I am out on vacation. Got some good hits and some misses. Will post when I get back. Also I found out that using even two spray of instant shine from a to-go bottle gives me light headache. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/12 "2008-06-01T12:12:35Z")
> [@v0m1t](#): > > Good points… > > Just want to let you all know that I am still around and doing a lot of testings. > I am out on vacation. Got some good hits and some misses. Will post when I get back. > > Also I found out that using even two spray of instant shine from a to-go bottle gives me light headache. Good you do get some good hits there 🙂 Will look forward to your reports v0mit 🙂 And about your light headache, well i’m not sure how it can caused it maybe the experienced ones here will know this better than me. ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/13 "2008-06-09T21:44:26Z")
Insane hit yesterday… Or atleast better than what I had till now. **Getting started** 04:00 pm. Coffee shop and later a bar at around 08:00pm. Day was rainy, got drenched a little. **Mix | Application** A314, 4 drops. 2 on each wrist and 2 on jawline **Results** Went out with Jay to meet a friend. Later a friend of his joined us. Jay and me had never met this girl. Anyways, she was very sweet and nice. The evening turned out to be fun that otherwise seemed to get boring. She got a little touchy. Kept touching my arms and thighs although she was very much interested in the other friend.. Now she just might be really friendly but Jay was the only one missing out on the kino action lol. Bigger hit was from Jay. Although he always rips on everyone, never complementing.. seemed to complement me more than usual. He even devalued himself which is very unusual for him. **Reflection** I’hv got other ‘hits’ before this, but they were too subtle and random to report on the forums. I’hv noted them on my journal book though. Sometimes it seems that it never works. But thats because I’hv only got A314 and ishine. Need to order ammo and instant openness but my credit card is maxed out lol… Will get them in 10 days. A314 really does work so subtly that its hard to gauge any reaction initially. I think we shouldnt really recommend that as the first order. I find that A314 + ishine combo never works ever!!! Alright I havent tested it out a lot.. only like 3-4 random days since I got it… But I feel better with A314 alone. And I dont feel all happy and shiny with ishine as everyone else does. Infact it gives me a strange buzz in my head :-/ And I didnot notice any reactions from others either. I’hv tried everywhere from 1 to 3 sprays from a togo bottle. The fragrance is alright. Theres only a couple of sprays left… ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/14 "2008-06-09T22:20:51Z")
Now that is what i called good hits 😃 A good updated report btw 🙂 Good you see how the girl & your friend Jay reacted to you there. Well for A314 not to be recommended as a first order, well maybe you are right but you see how it works for you there. I leave to you to think about this or ask the others what they think about this. Anyway here is some reps for your report. Keep on posting more. See you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/15 "2008-06-10T22:21:24Z")
I too don’t usually recommend a314 as a first product, but it works so well, it’s hard not to. In the end, it’s their loss if they try a314, don’t get it, then give up. ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/16 "2008-06-16T11:22:51Z")
06/14/08 Its saturday and my order of ammo and instant openness arrived at the dhl facility in the evening. They dont do deliveries on sunday. So I went down and picked it up myself 😃 I’hd kid April about a togo bottle of turn up the heat, and I got it free 😮 She is way too sweet, but I feel greedy lol. Anyhow, I applied one spray of turn up the heat (togo) on chin and went to sleep. The smell is very similar to [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). But I didnt get any buzz like I did with Instant Shine. My nose did feel ‘inflated’ though. No wet dreams as reported by others. 06/15/08 **Getting started** 06:00 pm. Remeber the girl I talked about in my last report? Went to see a movie with her. **Mix | Application** Instant openness, 2 sprays, each wrist Ammo, 1.5 spray, chest under shirt. First spray of ammo did not come out right.. it was more like half a spray, so I sprayed once more. Also a lot of instant openness was sprayed out of wrists.. the spray dimension is way too large compared to togo bottles. \*\*Results **So I went to see a movie with this girl. She acted normal and nothing out of ordinary. At around 10:00 pm I noticed this other girl outside the theaters staring at me with a poker face. Not a dihl though.. She would hold the stare for a few secs.. look away and look back again. If only I could go and talk to her.. but I was on a date ☹ She also seemed to follow me around for a bit, but disappeared few mins before the movie started. 11.00 - 12:30 movie time. Droped her home after the movie… but somehow we stayed outside her house and chatted till 04:00 am 😮 (just like to add that going in her home was not an option) \*\* Reflection** I dont think the effect of instant openness would last this long. And most of it was not a silly conversation either. What do you guys think??? 2 hits I got… With the girl staring and the 3 hour chat at the insane hours. No reactions noted from men. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/17 "2008-06-16T16:07:17Z")
Well to me those 2 hits that you got in your report are good hits with the girl staring at you & 3 hours of long endless chatter 🙂 It’s a good report btw v0m1t. You will get some reps from me for this 😃 Carry on updating your journal as i will be checking once in a while 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/18 "2008-06-22T15:21:38Z")
**Getting started** 09:00 am. Usual work day. **Mix | Application** A314, 2drops, each wrist Ammo, 1 spray, upper chest. **Results** So I had to take bus to work in the morning. Rush was usual, but I got a seat. After about 30 mins, a 20 something girl came and stood besides me. Now there was enough space around her to stand comfortably.. but she was almost leaning over me. Damn her crotch was on fire! She defiantly made no effort to move back and ‘it’ was literally touching my right arm. If only she was my type… After few mins an older women, probably in her late 40s came and stood around my seating area. Another 15 mins later a seat in front of me got empty but neither the girl nor the women sat down. They just stared at each other for a min. The girl had to give in and take the seat lol. I have never seen people passing on the opportunity to sit down in public transports in my city. You get a seat.. you sit down. No second thoughts. Unless you are with another person and want them to sit. This was very unusual. Later in the evening at around 08:00pm.. I got an awesome hit from my boss. Its only been a few days since I joined and he already thinks that I am perfect for the job and will do a lot of justice to my responsibilities. **Reflection** Pheromones work! Or atleast A314 and Ammo do… I havent had any luck with instant shine. I gave up on it, with a couple of sprays remaining from my togo bottle. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/19 "2008-06-22T15:43:06Z")
Great Report v0m1t 😃 This indeed show A314 & AMMO work for you 🙂 Well based on your report there, look like the older woman & the girl is attracted to you but they did not want to show it. And also good hit from your boss too. Reps for your report 😃 Keep posting more in your journal as i will be keeping track of it 🙂 P.S. And regarding your instant Shine, don’t lose up hope yet, you have seen how A314 & AMMO work for you. So give [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) a chance there. ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973/20 "2008-06-22T15:53:34Z")
Thanks buddy… Means a lot to me. I’hv been using A314 every day between 2-3 drops. I’hv got instant openness and turn up the heat togo, but holding it back for now. People I know are already very ‘open’ and chatterboxes.. I’ll probably try them in some mall next weekend. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-scream-the-logbook/12973.md?page=2)