# Liquid trust or instant honesty ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 18, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086 "2008-06-18T21:35:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![robert1940](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@robert1940](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/robert1940)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/1 "2008-06-18T21:35:55Z")
Has anyone experimented with both liquid trust and instant honesty at the same time ? I still havent figured out [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/),cause I am the kind of person that people really open up.I use stories etc and they confide me ANYTHING. From my use of honesty,I NOTICED that I am the one that cant keep his mouth shoot.And I wear it usually on my legs nowdays ,since I am most of the time shorts. ---
**Author:** ![Diatris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diatris/32/1066_2.png) [@Diatris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Diatris)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/2 "2008-06-18T22:45:26Z")
Hmm , well I want to buy instant honesty and i figure i can get this guy who says he likes me but still holding back to open up more.Would I get that desired effect? ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/3 "2008-06-18T23:07:36Z")
Michael mentioned that a friend of this told him that not even every bottle of liquid trust has the same effect or potential, because the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) they use is not stable. I think they added some other pheromone too to their old one, oxy-something 🙂 I think people will say that ih is better. You will get used to the effect of ih in like a week, so you wont be telling everyone your secrets 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Evantarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4491bb/32.png) [@Evantarin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evantarin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/4 "2008-06-19T01:19:52Z")
From what I’ve read, oxytocin isn’t even a pheromone. It’s a hormone I think. It is secreted by the pituitary gland. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/5 "2008-06-19T02:37:23Z")
With great anticipation I blazed through an entire bottle of LT. It didn’t do jack. Total waste of both time and money. Well, the empty bottle made a nice atomizer for “real” mixes. On the other hand, IH actually works when combined with a little technique and social skill. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/6 "2008-06-19T02:44:40Z")
Isn’t oxytocin the hormon that mothers put out and babies pick up on? Anyways, I don’t think it’s really a pheromone and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) works better. Though the effect is extremely complex- “honesty” doesn’t do it justice and in low amounts it certainly isn’t a truth serum. I think Instant Honesty tends to bias conversations towards weightier topics and tends to get people talking about how they feel moreso, and also lead to faster rapport with people- people feel like they know you from somewhere. A “Deanna Troi” or “Vulcan Mind Meld” sort of pheromone (if you are a Star Trek geek, you’ll get that). ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/7 "2008-06-19T02:51:09Z")
Basically same results as Gegogi and I agree with his recommendation: IH hands down. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/8 "2008-06-19T04:59:11Z")
You’ll find a number of reports on Liquid Trust (Oxytocin) here in the forum. I’ve had 3 bottles myself, the first worked great the others didn’t do squat. Oxytocin is a hormone produced mainly by women (I think). It is responsible for aiding in mother child bonding and plays a major role in establishing maternal behavior. Oxytocin also aids in the child birthing process by enhancing contractions, and is sometimes used to induce labor. And Oxytocin stimulates milk exection by stimulating contractio0n of the myoepithelial cells. Vero Labs markets it as a product for building trust, and CLAIMS that [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are proven to only work because of Oxytocin. But, they have now released Liquid Trust Enhanced, with…Pheromones! ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/9 "2008-06-19T06:16:55Z")
I use both Liquid Trust and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) regularly. I like them both. I have used several bottles of LT and haven’t gotten a bad one yet. There are similarities between the two, but they are different. Sexual arousal and orgasm raise the level of oxytocin in people’s blood (men and women). I find that meaningful – think pillow talk. Liquid Trust gives a sense of specialness to an event. Oxytocin is similar to vasopressin. You can (by prescription) get vasopressin as a nasal spray. Durk Pearson described it thirty years ago as a “smart drug”. It increases alertness and enhances memory. Some politicians are said to use it before entering a room, so they will remember names better. I was surprised to find that when I use Liquid Trust I remember the names of people I meet. I am usually very bad at that. It also helps me stay alert during long meetings when otherwise my mind would wander. I tend to use IH more habitually, but there are occasions when Liquid Trust gives me more of the edge I want. On those occasions I generally use both. Some people think LT leaves them feeling more tired after it wears off. Diatris, I would try IH, IO and plenty of Liquid Trust. No guarantees but Good Luck. In my experience, I think of the three LT might have the greatest impact. I haven’t tried the enhanced version. Remember most of us guys have had some pretty bad experiences following the script you want him to follow. ---
**Author:** ![robert1940](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@robert1940](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/robert1940)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/10 "2008-06-19T07:39:36Z")
for how long would you say [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) lasts ? I have the x4 version.Where should I apply it best ? How many sprays ? With LT its easy cause its odorless. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 9:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/11 "2008-06-19T09:04:59Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > Liquid Trust gives a sense of specialness to an event. . I think instant Honesty has a similar effect, though it gives more specialness to a relationship, like you’ve known somebody longer than you have and you can talk to them on a deeper level. Also, when you look into somebody’s eyes wearing Instant Honesty, it’s like you are seeing really deep into them, like a hypnotic gaze. It goes both ways to you, and if you were to wear Instant Honesty around somebody when they are telling you all their problems, you start to feel like they are your problems as well. It’s more a “sharing” or empathic experience. Honestly (no pun intended) I don’t always like the Instant Honesty effect. If I wear too much Instant Honesty and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), I start talking about heavy subjects all the time and sometimes that can be a bit irritating to people because they are doing the same and they don’t know why. It’s like peple start to only talk about how they feel and it’s a very serious vibe. Good for alot of stuff, but can kill an overall mood and if somebody is standing outside the circle of influence it might look a little ridiculous to have a heavy conversation all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-trust-or-instant-honesty/14086/12 "2008-06-19T14:06:05Z")
> [@robert1940](#): > > for how long would you say Instant Honesty lasts ? > > I have the x4 version.Where should I apply it best ? How many sprays ? > > With LT its easy cause its odorless. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) X4 nothing else compares seriously 🙂 , last about a couple of hours to 3 max for myself, I Usually spray it on my neck, chest, wrist.