# Live in a dangerous city ( what can i use to reduce a chance of holdup? ) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 17, 2008, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342 "2008-04-17T08:55:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/21 "2008-04-18T02:32:44Z")
I do hope your joking Thomas…or if your not i wouldnt go revealing your evil intentions to everyone 😃 , ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/22 "2008-04-18T02:41:53Z")
haha great discussion… well on the bright side…anything is better than Mogadishu 😛😛 Ak47 on every corror in the hands of a capable 8 year old 😮 😮 scary place… thats when u need one of these ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/3/37f766a5fee40eefbc5b2573a34e413b4ea2201d.jpeg) LOL only kidding 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/23 "2008-04-18T02:46:38Z")
I think this should be moved to the lounge @ bondkill: did you know that the suburbans infront of and behind the presidential limo have miniguns mounted in the back ?😃 ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/24 "2008-04-18T02:52:44Z")
wat??? 😮😮😮😮😮😮 how much ammo do they carry in there??? damn that is tight… LOL bond ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/25 "2008-04-18T03:03:43Z")
Eldros, Is this gun for roberto to protect hinself?😮 > [@Eldros](#): > > I’m sure you could articulate it, cause in most cases, 1 shot from a pistol, unless its \>.45cap, will not kill. So after you shoot him, call the cops, and the proof will be lying on the ground 😃. > This .50cal desert eagle WILL kill 😃: [http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9189/desert20eaglecd4.jpg](http://imageshack.us) > [http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9189/desert20eaglecd4.8d97d0edf8.jpg](http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=528&i=desert20eaglecd4.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/26 "2008-04-18T03:08:35Z")
nono its much to small… LOL when i go to mogadishu (Every weekend 🙄 ) i always have my recoilless rifle (the one in my post) in my bak pocket, fits even if i have ammo togo in the same pocket 😛 idk in reberto’s case, he might need some artillery or an airstrike 😛 bond ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/27 "2008-04-18T03:20:52Z")
> [@flaming](#): > > Id say the the positive self-effects of none on me are feeling powerful, capable and strong. > T But the problem is that, often, people who wear none don’t seem to physically fit with the perceived high strength vibe given off by none. My small build friend sometimes wears none and acts like a big shot and does “big things”, he will get his ass kicked by guys, he is acting bigger than he really is. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/28 "2008-04-18T05:04:08Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > For the US culture (I don’t know how it is in venezuela - I’ve never been), I’ve seen A314 render people untouchable in almost any dangerous situation. > > It exerts a leader’s calm confidence. The one where the wearer can secretly beat the holy $#!T out of any offenders without even breaking a sweat. You wear it, you instantly get a boost of stature, whether you know it or not. > > Bad people are not going to mess with someone they sense will hurt them back. I totally agree with that. I’m just thinking from my perspective. If I WERE to plan on jacking/hurting someone, I would want to keep my distance and would not want to be associated with my target before, during or after. Which would mean my target would be too far for me to smell. I agree that if a person is giving off an aura that he can handle him or herself well, I’m not going to be the fool to prove it. xD ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/29 "2008-04-18T05:07:21Z")
> [@thomaslavoie](#): > > If you want to jack others: > I’m going to start wearing a shit load of Instant Honesty and steal people’s money when they aren’t suspecting it. mens rea, you’re halfway there. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/2/28c1f39c635b3e7a9e6e4e219b9f1ca083e0e931.jpeg "Dumbest Criminal") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQP0IQfD3CA) 'nuff said ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/30 "2008-04-18T07:59:42Z")
> [@thomaslavoie](#): > > But the problem is that, often, people who wear none don’t seem to physically fit with the perceived high strength vibe given off by none. My small build friend sometimes wears none and acts like a big shot and does “big things”, he will get his ass kicked by guys, he is acting bigger than he really is. Yeah i can actually see that happening..makes you a little over confident at high doses.All some guy has to do us see them as “cocky” and they are gone…young guys love proving themselves in fights. Im ok with none but im an “oldster” (to borrow martin Amis’s term) Young guys are better off buffering low doses with something like instant gent ---
**Author:** ![Lillith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lillith/32/2355_2.png) [@Lillith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lillith)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/31 "2008-04-18T22:58:32Z")
Roberto: If you live in such a dangerous city, AndrosteNONE and guns will not help you. Just pack your bags and go somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Streetarson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/streetarson/32/1550_2.png) [@Streetarson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Streetarson)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/32 "2008-04-18T23:35:16Z")
Reberto here is another idea from a cops point of view… Now this is not illegal here as long as it doesnt have a marking as “Blank Police” or any word stating police Just do this buy a T-shirt with a badge in the corner Preferably Gold meaning your Ranked… Then buy a gun and place it on a body strap. LOOKING like a cop from a distance Thugs are scared of one thing and that is athority they wont shoot at us unless they have a death sentance. I’ve never heard a cop getting robbed in uniform. NO AND DONT PRETEND YOUR AN OFFICER THATS ILLIGAL Oh wait this might not work where u live 🙂 not ur not in the usa well this might be a bad idea i take it all back I can see 100 reasons why this could turn out really really bad ---
**Author:** ![esstee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/esstee/32/2082_2.png) [@esstee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/esstee)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 11:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/33 "2008-04-19T11:36:49Z")
I suggest getting zips etc on your pockets for a start. Make sure your wallet is **ALWAYS** in your front pockets and NEVER in your back pockets. So firstly, make sure you can’t be pick pocketed. Then I suggest taking up a Grappling based martial art. A striking one could end up with you seriously injuring them, and getting charged yourself. I suggest Ju Jit Su or Judo. [YouTube - Ju-Jitsu Clip SHow](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPUafDDa7tk) Is a fairly good JJS video. [YouTube - best of judo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-BoM-WokY) is a fairly good Judo video. Just to let you know, when you do join a martial art you have to buy a yearly license for insurance etc. This license also covers you from the authorities in case you ever use the training in public. You need to issue warnings such as “I know Ju Jit Su, so you may be hurt if you fight me” 3 times for example. Have a drive around your area and look for a good martial arts. If you try it and it’s not working for YOU in 2 weeks, or is boring you join another style or club. If you can locate a LICENSED Jeet Kune Do club near you, I highly suggest it as that is based on street fighting and if you get it done at a licensed club you will be training with people taught by the great Bruce Lee him self. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/34 "2008-04-19T18:59:26Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > I’m sure you could articulate it, cause in most cases, 1 shot from a pistol, unless its \>.45cap, will not kill. So after you shoot him, call the cops, and the proof will be lying on the ground 😃. > This .50cal desert eagle WILL kill 😃: [http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9189/desert20eaglecd4.jpg](http://imageshack.us) > [http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9189/desert20eaglecd4.8d97d0edf8.jpg](http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=528&i=desert20eaglecd4.jpg) Wow, nice gun Eldro 🆒 How much for a piece in the US? Very interested on it 🙂 If i want to use it, it is only for self defence. With Regards, PhatSounds ---
**Author:** ![esstee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/esstee/32/2082_2.png) [@esstee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/esstee)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/35 "2008-04-19T19:31:20Z")
> [@PhatSounds](#): > > Wow, nice gun Eldro 🆒 How much for a piece in the US? Very interested on it 🙂 If i want to use it, it is only for self defence. > > With Regards, > PhatSounds The deagle is possibly _the_ most powerful pistol out. It will deffo kill lol. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/36 "2008-04-19T23:54:14Z")
I think they go for around $2500, not including other charges that you need to license it 😃. But IF that’s out of your price range, you could prolly get a Glock for ~$500. ---
**Author:** ![Streetarson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/streetarson/32/1550_2.png) [@Streetarson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Streetarson)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/37 "2008-04-20T00:40:27Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > I think they go for around $2500, not including other charges that you need to license it 😃. > But IF that’s out of your price range, you could prolly get a Glock for ~$500. wow over priced glock IMO i got my secondary weapon (glock) 320 … got my AR15 223 for swat 900… ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/38 "2008-04-20T03:00:53Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > I think they go for around $2500, not including other charges that you need to license it 😃. > But IF that’s out of your price range, you could prolly get a Glock for ~$500. Hmm, very pricy & it haven’t include other charges to licensed it. Yes, for the glock i will think about it but not getting it now anyway. My country doesn’t permit buying guns or even owning one as it is considered dangerous so maybe when i live overseas, i will get one. Does the price 500 include licensing or not? & how much for licensing a gun like in the UK or US? Thanks for the reply Eldro 🙂 > [@Streetarson](#): > > wow over priced glock IMO i got my secondary weapon (glock) 320 … got my AR15 223 for swat 900… Hi Streetarson, 320 for a glock. That’s a good price. Does it include licensing or not? ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/39 "2008-04-20T03:13:33Z")
You might not even be able to own a firearm depending on where you live. Thats one thing I love about America, you can own guns and shoot people that step onto your property without your consent 😃 (at least in texas. . . Texas ftw!). But if a democrat gets elected president , we may not be able to own guns, or there will be very tight gun control laws, cause: GUNZ R BAD :retarded:. @Phatsounds: depending on how you buy your firearm (retailer/private) costs may differ. Here in Texas, to buy a gun, you have to get license from the police department and get registered there too. Then when you go to buy the gun, you have to wait for like 2 weeks while everything clears up. I don’t know the extra costs involved. If buying private (like over a forum) you just pay for the gun and you’re done. And remember, having a gun is not enough to keep you safe. Go take some classes and maybe a advanced class, well worth the money. You may get taught by an ex-spec forces guy. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342/40 "2008-04-20T03:28:03Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > You might not even be able to own a firearm depending on where you live. Thats one thing I love about America, you can own guns and shoot people that step onto your property without your consent 😃 (at least in texas. . . Texas ftw!). But if a democrat gets elected president , we may not be able to own guns, or there will be very tight gun control laws, cause: GUNZ R BAD :retarded:. > @Phatsounds: depending on how you buy your firearm (retailer/private) costs may differ. Here in Texas, to buy a gun, you have to get license from the police department and get registered there too. Then when you go to buy the gun, you have to wait for like 2 weeks while everything clears up. I don’t know the extra costs involved. If buying private (like over a forum) you just pay for the gun and you’re done. And remember, having a gun is not enough to keep you safe. Go take some classes and maybe a advanced class, well worth the money. You may get taught by an ex-spec forces guy. So i see it is like that in the US. I get it now. Hmm, not easy to own unless you buy privately.Well too much risks to own a gun, it’s not worth it. I changed my mind & give it a pass now. I agreed with you Eldros guns are bad. It can either protect or harm you one way or another by the way you handled it. And yes owning a gun is not enough for your own protection, i see here u said take some classes you mean martial arts classes right? I was thinking about it too. Yup if you are lucky you might be taught by a veteran. Good advice Eldros 🙂 Thanks 😃 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/live-in-a-dangerous-city-what-can-i-use-to-reduce-a-chance-of-holdup/11342.md?page=3)