# Lizzie's Journal (Towards Self-Actualization)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [December 29, 2007, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849 "2007-12-29T13:27:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/21 "2008-01-11T01:58:11Z")

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**Wednesday:  
3x IS/A**

Went to my law advisor for my research paper. He seemed pretty psyched about what I’m about to do (though I think it’s a simple matter of analysing legal credibility through principles of natural justice, etc etc).. He’s got tons of fresh ideas, so i think I’m basically stealing all his intellectual thought and presenting it as my own, 🆒

Then I found out that I’ve got 4 days of weekend =D..  
That’s right. No more lectures, no more testing folks.

That night, I went out with a guy friend of mine to watch a movie. Pretty cool, but I got bored. So I mentioned to him how frustrated I was that I missed Across the Universe, and how could it have played for only a week here. He basically then bragged about watching the movie, but then later totally maked up for it by swearing up and down that he would find a DVD for the movie and give it to me. (He didn’t know that I was torr\*\*ting it, but never mind!)

Okay, holiday awaits!

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/22 "2008-01-11T01:59:47Z")

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it’s too early to get bored, but I’m already pretty bored with IS/A.. No self-discipline at all, heheh 😛

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/23 "2008-01-11T06:47:01Z")

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> [@LizzieM](#):
>
> **Introduction**
> 
> To all those who do not know me, I’m Lizzie. I’m Asian, living in Malaysia, and I’m 19. I’m right now in law school, I have 2 more years before I can work properly. Well, this is my journal. I hope to god no one I know is here. If you feel there’s a slight chance you may know me, leave please 😛..
> 
> Anyway, since I’m using pheromones, it’s kind of an unfair advantage to the rest of the fellow lawpeople. Therefore, I might as well post out my ideal dream career : one in international law. I’ve always wanted to work in a non-governmental organization surrounding. Hoping this unfair advantage might just help me out.
> 
> I’m currently writing CVs and resumes for friends, which is how I earn some extra money. Not much, though. I’m also pondering into doing this is a bigger setting. (Don’t know where pheromones come in here, just thought I’d mention it).
> 
> **Pheromones Arsenal**
> 
> Well, don’t laugh! At present, the only pheromones I have is the Instant Sexiness (A). Neroli scent. I’m quite the minimalist in person, so I think it’d be a good idea to start from a basic pheromone, then have people giving me inputs on what to add and customize, depending on my results.
> 
> I’ll buy those pheromones again, when I have the money. I’m not a lawyer yet! Just a broke 19-year old living in Malaysia…
> 
> **What My Aims of Using Pheromones Are (Minor):**
> 
> a) I’m 19. The rest of my classmates are 23-24. People don’t take me seriously. Plus I’m playful. I tend to be sarcastic, but I still give a very nice sweet girl vibe. Therefore I need to raise respect around my classmates.
> 
> b) Every few weeks there may be law conferences that we students are invited to attend. Usually what would happen is that, I go, listen, eat and leave. I do talk to people, but never with the drive of actually leaving an impression. I’m gonna start doing that from now on! Regardless of how intimidating a person is, I have to start talking to them.
> 
> **What My Aims of Using Pheromones Are (Major):**
> 
> This is where you guys can help by giving me tips
> 
> c) I’m currently starting my research work on the topic “Legal Credibility of the KL War Crimes Tribunal”. For those who do not know, Kuala Lumpur recently launched a tribunal working to criminalise war, by perhaps bringing war crimes to light.
> 
> It’s a great effort, but imo, was a disaster the first time around, and is quite a laughingstock in the outside world, from the little I know. It was far too one-sided, similar to any convention which criticizes the current global scenario. It was very enlightening, and great for public awareness, but not much use in terms of legal credibility, really. Not enough follow up on proper legal procedures, etc..
> 
> Thus the research is looking towards how to give legal credibility to it, since it is merely a NGO effort and not a governmental one (which means that it has absolutely no real credibility).
> 
> i) One of my lecturers is the committee member for the War Crimes Tribunal, and he’s very well sought after by students who wants to do their research. I need to get him on our side.  
> ii) We have to do interviews with regards to the War Crimes Tribunal. The ideal would be to get in touch with the biggest fish : which is the Malaysian ex-PM, since he’s the most outspoken and non-diplomatic person in the tribunal. Not sure whether this is likely or not, even with pheromones, but I’m just writing here, to set a standard for me to just jump through. I’ve talked to him once, not made much of an impression though.  
> iii) Well, I need to make a huge presentation of my research by the end of the semester (4 months from now), so I guess I need all the help I can get.
> 
> \*\*Note that it’s not because of pheromones that I’m doing this. Even if I don’t have pheromones, I still have to do this. It’s just that having pheromones gives me an excuse to post this here and get help from you guys.
> 
> \*\*\*Pheromone Testings (I’m going to edit this from time to time):
> 
> \*\*a) Practical Work (Court) - See [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/probably-a-coincidence-but-courtroom-hullabaloo-scares-the-hell-out-of-lizzie/7569) (not much results, but then, I’ve only managed to use it a week).. Seems like I’m attracting the respect of criminals as opposed to other people 😮… This is probably a complete disaster, (I’m still embarrassed by it), but it gives me an idea of the possibilities of pheromones.
> 
> b) Personal Life (hehe, not much progress yet 🙄 )
> 
> I’m trying to save up on my pheromones.. 😛.
> 
> By the way, I know it’s never about the pheromones. It’s how I pick myself up to do what I want to do with my life. So here goes. My journey towards self-actualization .
> 
> By the way, you guys have been awfully nice to me.
> 
> [http://www.elmika.net/images/smilies/hug2.gif](http://www.elmika.net/images/smilies/hug2.gif)
> 
> Liz

Lizzie, you’re one of the smartest, and most forward thinking females Ive had the pleasure of talking to.

A few pheromones and some social savvy, and you’ll find yourself THROWING yourself into the conversational field of the Malaysian Ex-PM, or anyone else in those high powered thrones who you want to influence. Trust me here, dude, I am SO with you here because I’ve BEEN there, I AM there..

I’ve successfully used these pheromones to cut straight through the crowds and shake hands, wine, dine, deal, and become bff with major visionaries. (I hate to namedrop because it seems so reachy, but I’ve pheromoned my way into the social circles of Richard Branson, Jay Conrad Levinson (creator of Tony the Tiger, the Marlboro Man, etc.) … seriously, you tell me who to meet, and I just go and do it.

DO it, girl.  
And bounce your sneaky influence ideas off us. We’re all sneaky influencers here, and we’re all experts in our own way. PLUS, every one of us is in posession of the most cutting of cutting edge technology to engineer social fireworks… You’re with the _right_ group of people, Liz.

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**Author:** ![kidzest](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kidzest/32/1613_2.png) [@kidzest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kidzest)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/24 "2008-01-12T13:05:29Z")

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What matters most is confidence! 🙂 Second is pheros.😃 Not unless you come from a very diversified community like mine, than in first place will be Pheros & C…!😮  
Looking forward to your next adventure with my idol, yr ex-PM. I admire him for his guts, vision and shrewdness. 😉 😉 🙄

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**Author:** ![Patratt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/patratt/32/971_2.png) [@Patratt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Patratt)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/25 "2008-01-13T07:21:23Z")

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> [@LizzieM](#):
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> **Thursday:  
> Pheroless**
> 
> I think next I should make her smear paprika all over her pretty little face (_is a jealous whore_)

LOL! You crack me up girl…Reps to you for just being silly and making me laugh. Love your energy!

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/26 "2008-01-18T15:20:45Z")

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Thanks Jas for the amazing encouragement! Patratt, I’ll be calling her “paprika girl” now!

I didn’t wear pheromones for the last week, and I wouldn’t say things have particularly been going bad for me this week. I’m thinking that instead of pheromones making me “Angelina Jolie” for a day or whatever, I’m going to make use of these pheromones to turn me into that Lizzie I’ve always thought I was gonna grow up into when I was a kid, but one way or another life gets a hold on me ☹ 🙂..

Am gonna use pheromones to help bring up some self confidence in turning me slowly into somebody I want to be. Hopefully somehow my pheromone’s sig going to change for the better too 😃. No idea if pheromones work that way, but I’m gonna assume it does. Am trying to self-script my way to becoming that pheromone signature I have come to like so much in IS/A, and hopefully the rest of Jas’ pheromones as I come to test them out.

Also, lucky for me is also the fact that someone have very nicely made an order for me (figured it saves shipping cost!) for Instant Shine and MX134. Will be waiting for them to come my way!

Jas, heh, you bubbled me up so well that I have an urge to rang Dr M up for lunch almost immediately, but of course that’s definitely not possible, at least not right now. In a few months, I’ll give it!

We’ve done all the paperworks needed to complete our research. Hard skills done, all left is pure soft skills alone. I’ve gotten myself (and my research mate, which not-so-coincidentally happens to be paprika girl 😃) so pumped up that we’ve made lists of things that we should and should not do, power lunches that we should plan, and so forth. I’m not exactly a world superpower when it comes to soft skills, well actually hard skills are definitely more my forte, while my pretty paprika friend here is all about the social skills. A walking [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), if you must label her.

I’m not sure I could feel at ease if my pheromone signature is the walking “Instant Openness”. I must admit I do feel a bit uneasy because my friends seems to be the ones who are really talkative, though I am very much reserved in person. I don’t have too many friends who’s not talkative, and that got me thinking that I shouldn’t be going for the “talkative person” signature. At least not if I want to stand out. I don’t think I want to go into a “who’s more talkative and social” competition, and I doubt I need more chitchats. I’m kind of a “space” person. (Well, don’t judge me! 😛 I like to write! Blabbing on an internet journal is a totally different matter! )

Anyway, since I have IS/A, and in the future IS and MX134, I’m thinking these could possibly be instrumental towards all my plans and everything.

I doubt any of the people I’m about to go meet is going to be too intimidated by too many TAL. But I was wondering whether MX134 should be worn together with IS/A? Or maybe just MX134 is enough? Or should I steal A314 from somebody and dose myself with IS/A?

I also wonder whether I should be getting cops, probably not, since MX134 and IS/A already contains traces of them. Anyway, it’s not like I’m looking to get laid, I just don’t want them to get a fatherly “I have to help her get her wishes because she is like the daughter I never had” vibe like I always seem to do.

Anyway, it’s all still in plan mode. I’m also going to use IS/A sparingly, coupled with lots of pheromone-less days to practice my skills.

**By the way, this does not turn out to be quite the report journal I hoped for, more like the typical me blabbing away like I always do when I think people aren’t watching 😛**

Btw, huge hi to new people!!! Everytime I’m away for college, it usually means I won’t get any access to the internet. Must be lotsa new people turned regulars that I missed.

Wish me and paprika girl luck by the way! She wants to be a diplomat (a total social cat she is!), and me, if I happen to find the secret combination to unbridled success, am totally backpacking my way to Netherlands and start up from there!

**Thursday Update :**

Arranged meeting with a person who’s in the committee of the KL War Crimes Tribunal. Hopefully he’s gonna be totally psyched about helping us! Meeting is on Monday! (I don’t have classes, yay!)

Arranged meeting with my lecturer whose got experience in war crimes. Am going to see what’s happening tomorrow!

**Friday Update : (Pheromone Effect)**

5 sprays of IS/A

Whoops! Today is the best day ever. We planned to meet our lecturer just mainly to get new materials for war crimes. Suddenly while talking about football and cars 🙄 I mentioned that I’d love to go and work at Netherlands, and he totally volunteered to write me a reference letter so that I can intern there..

It gets better, after a few moment, he comes up with a better idea. He said that he’s gonna get our Vice-Chancellor of the university to write me a recommendation letter. He was totally psyched about it as well, saying that the reference letter will totally blow! 😃

Anyway, this next part has nothing to do with pheromones

Well, if you don’t know, I’m totally phone phobic, but I’ve finally gotten over my fear. Me and paprika girl, we totally made an awesome team. Today we recruited all our friends, and what happened was that we found someone (Guy A) who is the PR for Guy B, who is toot toot, son of Dr M! Bingo!

Anyway, we called him up, and now we have lunch with Guy A!

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/27 "2008-01-18T15:22:03Z")

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I’m so sad that my university totally won’t have internet access for another couple of weeks ☹.. So i’ll probably be updating this weekly now.

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/28 "2008-01-18T17:14:18Z")

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Oh no ☹.. My visa credit card does not work!.. This is not fair. Stupid bank! I will call them to see what happened!

Edit : oooh, this night is not going well. Just got an SMS. Guy A just cancelled, he said something came up for wednesday. He’d try to reschedule another date ☹

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**Author:** ![kidzest](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kidzest/32/1613_2.png) [@kidzest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kidzest)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/29 "2008-01-19T08:34:34Z")

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Suggt to MHarris to create “transfer factor digital” pheros!, so dat you can ‘hit’ guy A & everybody with ur ISx via telephone wires…!!! That will definitely help me in my cold calling too..!!!😃

> [@LizzieM](#):
>
> Oh no ☹.. My visa credit card does not work!.. This is not fair. Stupid bank! I will call them to see what happened!
> 
> Edit : oooh, this night is not going well. Just got an SMS. Guy A just cancelled, he said something came up for wednesday. He’d try to reschedule another date ☹

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/30 "2008-01-19T08:40:55Z")

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> [@kidzest](#):
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> Suggt to MHarris to create “transfer factor digital” pheros!, so dat you can ‘hit’ guy A & everybody with ur ISx via telephone wires…!!! That will definitely help me in my cold calling too..!!!😃

Phone pheromones would definitely be awesome! 🙄

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**Author:** ![kidzest](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kidzest/32/1613_2.png) [@kidzest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kidzest)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/31 "2008-01-19T09:32:44Z")

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Lizzie, i think your purchase of mx134 & IS a very good choice! You shuld not opt for more COPS ( c whos talking!?), together all these plus more COPS you’ll definitely giving out signals, of wanting to get laid…! Soorry, dats wat i tink… Thanks to this forum, all you guys out there, lizzie, and especially to IS, i tink i hv evolved from a cadet to a knight. (i hope!). One thing is for sure, i will not keep quite.🆒

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/33 "2008-01-19T09:40:23Z")

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> [@kidzest](#):
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> Lizzie, i think your purchase of mx134 & IS a very good choice! You shuld not opt for more COPS ( c whos talking!?), together all these plus more COPS you’ll definitely giving out signals, of wanting to get laid…! Soorry, dats wat i tink… Thanks to this forum, all you guys out there, lizzie, and especially to IS, i tink i hv evolved from a cadet to a knight. (i hope!). One thing is for sure, i will not keep quite.🆒

heh, thinking about it.. cops and me might not go together very well. I’ve still got my eyes on MX135 though 🆒.

Oh btw.. I just entered myself into a scrabble tournament 😛.. I’m not the best 🙄 (I kind of sucked actually since the new lexicon/dictionary got introduced), but my awesome teammate is a high-ranking national player, so if I win, I definitely know what to buy after this.. (Not winning is not even an option!) I am going to practice Tisha’s suggested Law of Attraction until the money is in my hand (muhaha!) 😃

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**Author:** ![kidzest](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kidzest/32/1613_2.png) [@kidzest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kidzest)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/34 "2008-01-19T09:59:18Z")

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Good for you..! MHarris, don’t keep Lizzie waiting…!:o Dats the way to go..!, aim high! With your wits, emmmh & ur xperienced t/mate, not surprised…! Goodluck, anyway…

quote=LizzieM;88284]heh, thinking about it.. cops and me might not go together very well. I’ve still got my eyes on MX135 though 🆒.

Oh btw.. I just entered myself into a scrabble tournament 😛.. I’m not the best 🙄 (I kind of sucked actually since the new lexicon/dictionary got introduced), but my awesome teammate is a high-ranking national player, so if I win, I definitely know what to buy after this.. (Not winning is not even an option!) I am going to practice Tisha’s suggested Law of Attraction until the money is in my hand (muhaha!) 😃

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/35 "2008-01-22T14:49:24Z")

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I need help!

The ex-prime minister of Malaysia I was gushing about? Tomorrow I’m meeting his son! (Um, approximately 12 hours from now!). If nobody replies here, I am opening the question to the main forum!

I have :  
IS/A  
Instant Shine in Chocolatini  
MX134 (togo)  
[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) x2 (togo)

Help me! Should I wear them all and hope for the best? I was hoping I could test them out first one by one so that I know the perfect dosage once I meet Tun Mahathir (the ex-PM). However, now that I’m meeting his son, I shouldn’t pass up the chance of giving the perfect first impression. Apparently he wants to hear directly about our research!

Idea for good mixes??

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/36 "2008-01-22T15:05:26Z")

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kinda like smellovision fer the fone =D

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/37 "2008-01-22T15:11:41Z")

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> [@z414a4d](#):
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> kinda like smellovision fer the fone =D

focus!! 😠

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/38 "2008-01-22T15:16:35Z")

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oh! right right. Sorry. A D D at its best…

Ok so Choclatini…

I got nothin…

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I havn’t smelled any of those female ones before 😕 Im not much help! im sorry. But definatly load up some TAA / IS =D cant go wrong there 😃

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/39 "2008-01-22T15:16:59Z")

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Do some 134 too =D thats good stuff I hear.

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**Author:** ![Curiouschic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Curiouschic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Curiouschic)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/40 "2008-01-22T16:52:48Z")

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Hey Lizzie, If I were you I would try out your MX134 today to see how you respond, maybe 2 or 3 sprays.

Then based on todays results I would probably go with a mix. Definetly some instant shine to the hair with IS/A mixed between the wrists and neck (2-3 sprays dependant on your product preference) and then if MX134 seemed to work for you I would put a spray or 2 to either side of neck. With regards to IH, I haven’t tested mine out yet (haven’t found a situation I actually want to use it yet) but I would maybe keep IH for a second visit and play around with the others. Hope this gives you an idea. Good Luck hun, and can’t wait to hear your results!

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**Author:** ![kidzest](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kidzest/32/1613_2.png) [@kidzest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kidzest)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lizzies-journal-towards-self-actualization/7849/41 "2008-01-26T03:50:29Z")

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Hey Lizzie, my advice is.., use everything Xcept for IH 2x.. Not until he (datuk mukriz) prosposes. By then you definitely need IH 2x or higher potency to arm yourself and ‘squeeze’ all his dark secrets out before deciding anything.. hahahahaaa!!!

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