# Logbook **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [February 13, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125 "2008-02-13T13:38:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/1 "2008-02-13T13:38:24Z")
First, thank you to many people here who put efforts in sharing their experiences. I learned a lot by just reading their posts. 😃 I figure I can write my own notes on this forum (can I?). Being a foreigner, Chinese descendant, living in Japan must has some useful experiences to someone. I’m 6"2, Typical Chinese look (with bigger eye frames), Muscular build, dress well occasionally. My items are: Edge, NPA, SOE, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (normal strength) and A314 My best result was when using IS alone. My best mood was when using only A314. My worst moment was when I used NPA individually. Edge and SoE don’t do much alone but they enhance the mix. Here are observations I have gathered from using ISx2 A314x1 0.5ml of SoE. **Self effects** I felt great, but was always aware that placebo’s effect could take place, and no dizzy feelings as I used to have when using SoE, maybe my body has already assimilated to the previous use of 2ml SoE. I took notes of things I found and hoped I could illustrate my experiences clearly enough. I went to meet a JP lady at cultural office, which I would not mention any name for anonymous reason, and was waiting at common area. A guy who I know had invited me to join his table which already had another lady sitting there. She was cute! 😃 However, she couldn’t understand English. I later learned that she’s a Taiwanese and…married. (No, no, LT, not the same Taiwanese I mentioned before) But I gave all my attention to the guy for courtesy reason. We had a few things to talk about and I always tried to involve her in the conversation, mainly not to leave her out which would seem impolite in this society, and made some eye contacts along with good smiles. She eventually felt comfortable with my presence and smiled back. Real smile, not the forced one. \*Note - I did face my body toward her, but she didn’t. She focused on her textbook and occasionally joined the conversation. I didn’t pursue further at the moment. I mainly talked with the guy until he had to leave. Then I repositioned myself to her opposite seat. \*Note - After sometimes, she began to initiate conversations. I speak little Japanese so it was a hard process. At the time, I assumed she did feel comfortable with my presence. After I doubly reapplied SoE from ear to ear, I did this where no one would see me of course, we had some nice talks. Big grins. IOI? I wasn’t sure. \*Note - no pupil dilations, hairplays or any other IOIs. Two of my friends joined me later. A guy and a girl. Both are ones I am teaching my language to. So they got along well. Intrigued by the subject, TW lady actually tried to join my little lecture. Seemed interested and did teach me some Mandarin. \*Note - nice attentions, still showed no IOIs, however. During that time, my female student touched my shoulder. She initiated more physical contacts lately, but I saw her as my friend only. Now, after long hours, we packed our stuffs and left the office. \*Note - I stepped in her personal space. No backfire but a compliment of my height. She didn’t seem to mind about personal space stuff, I also was aware that Taiwanese had more progressive thought about flirting. I asked when she would come to the office again. She answered and asked the same question to me. Then we parted. Conclusion I’m learning… This country is a land of courtesy and I can mistake a politeness for an IOI when I first arrived here and made a shame of myself. I found from a few previous tests that -nol and IS are good for first meeting. A314 is also good but not more than one drop for me in that specific situation or else they would all tense up. \*Note - 3 drops of A314 and no one would talk to me. 3 sprays of IS alone made some nice interactions. Any advice and correction are always welcome. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/2 "2008-02-13T19:40:29Z")
Nice journal Kevio! May I ask if you take morning showers? If not then you can try using A314 before you go to bed to get some of the self effects while sleeping and it will still be working at a lower dose when you wake up (note that this is not something a lot of users do here but if you can’t use A314 when around people use this technique to reap some benefits). You are having some success with IShine and SOE so keep on trying them at various ratios when around people and keep us posted.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/3 "2008-02-14T05:43:50Z")
Thank you. I am doing so as well and now I am observing IS’s effects to other people. So far so good. I’ll summarize my notes and put them here soon. They are not conclusive at the moment. I take hot shower in the morning. But I did what you said before, however not much effects seen. ---
**Author:** ![Kusro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f05b48/32.png) [@Kusro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kusro)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/4 "2008-02-14T07:36:38Z")
hey Kevio, Nice report. Keep us posted on your experiments.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/5 "2008-02-16T11:09:21Z")
[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (Normal Strength) After a few experiments, I, a skeptic, have come to believe its shiny effect. IS alone can provide mood lifting result. I started with 1 spray and perceived no effect. 2x also could not do much. 3x provided some results. So 4x and so on 4x - Good mood lifting. People smile a lot. 5x - Big smile from a lovely stranger for no certain reason. 6x - Made me smile and chatty. People have the same effects too. 7x - After 3 days of test, I finally get used to the dose and manage to shut my mouth. 8x - Good reactions from friends and strangers. My part-time job involves up close interaction and the air conditioned room (about 28c\* maybe) give me opportunities to test IS effectively. People are less grumpy. Not many criticisms on my job. Good friendly smile. Now I have only about half left. Maybe time to place another order. ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/6 "2008-02-29T11:10:28Z")
After long and many tests of A314, I could say that it could not do much to affect young people. Similar to -none overdose when they did not know how to react they would just ignore it. As far as I could see A314 made people around my age ‘scared’ but did not repel them away like -none OD. However, it worked great with mature people. They were not more friendly but would not treat me as a child and also more willing to help if I asked. Self effect could not be more vagued. I liked herbal, deep plant smell so it had something to do with my mood. I enjoyed taking a deep breath of it and intoxicated my mind. Made my head clear. No confidence boost but calm my nervousness. While Edge and NPA mix gave me aggressiveness and confidence boost, A314 calm me down enough to do things right. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/7 "2008-02-29T21:21:58Z")
Good posting Kevio. Keep up the good work. sounds like you are finding some sweet spots. ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/8 "2008-03-01T02:53:33Z")
Thanks renny. I had ordered Instant Honesty x4, Instant Shine x2, Ammo to-go, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)/m to-go, Instant Sexiness to-go and Instant Female Magic/f to-go yesterday. I want to try Instant Female Magic as well as I want to find out the different outcomes between male and female products. Especially, I work in male dominant areas sometime. Results would be so interesting. * * * My -none mix, Edge and NPA (4:1) First mistake I did with this mix was not to consider any cover. Too stink, I barely noticed the scent but clearly all women around me did. It all was just a spray from an atomizer. (No accurate dose known, sorry) However, after I tried layer method, it came out fine. I could put up to 3 sprays on myself without others noticing it. That’s my max by the way. 4 always make me too angry. Confidence boost was more like arrogant upbeat. I lightened the tone using Instant Shine and A314. (Mix 3: IS 2: A314 1) Ghosting effect was less visible. Girls around my age or younger laughed or giggled nervously but would neither take any step closer nor further. Maybe they were being submissive? Men treated me no different from usual. No conclusion for this. Note: Ghosting effect takes place when I put on 5 sprays of the mix. Definitely the OD. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/9 "2008-03-01T03:56:42Z")
I have to say, even if not many people are showing vocal interest, I’m sure many people are following your journal as many guys are interested in what works for Asian women as they are generally sensitive to -none, a fairly tried and true pheromone. Which, I might add, A314 has in significant amounts. I’m not so sure about Edge, Scent of Eros, or NPA. I’m pretty sure they all have -none in some amounts. I would suggest trying some Instant Openness to establish friendly connections easily. Or maybe some [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)? I haven’t tried it extensively around Asians, but I think it works pretty well. I don’t know if it’s still available, but there was also a test pack, I think mx200 and mx201 which was directed towards attracting Asian women. Finally, Instant Shine, as you already know is quite effective as well. I don’t know about others, but unless your bottle is a to-go bottle, 8 sprays is kind of a lot. Maybe you could try dialing it back to 2-3 sprays and see if you can establish similar results now that you have some experience with it. In any case, enjoy your testing and let us know how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/10 "2008-03-01T14:45:24Z")
Thanks. Although it is a normal size bottle, it runs out very quick. Note to myself. Do not put 8 sprays of IS on myself and expect people on the train to not smell it. Too strong! * * * Today. 2 sprays of the none mix, 1 drop of A314 and 8 sprays of IS. Result was equal to the cologne guy. Strong neroli scent. The woman who sat next to me on the train eyed me from head to foot. Then no interest after that. But the one who was sitting at my left DID turn her head away. No significant results after that. Some IOIs detected but I was always too busy with my friends to actually observe them. \*Note: my ex was in the group and it annoyed me so much that I used sarcastic jokes against her everytime I had a chance. I did it with everyone. ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/11 "2008-03-15T17:23:50Z")
Placebo effects It has been quite sometime that I am exposed to pheromones. Now I compare the early notes with the new ones. Noticeable self-effects are decreasing significantly so I think at the early stage there can have some placebo effects in place. When I first ordered pheromone products, I had a strong belief in it. Now, I take times to actually perceive how it will affect me. Very little or none at all was done to me by these pheromones. Recently, I tried 2 sprays of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) on a consecutive 2 hours reapplication. 8 sprays in total. Next day, I put on 14 sprays in about 4 hours. I smelled funny, many people told me. I did not get any depression and my female colleagues seemed happy, in which their personalities were already cheerful. I tried 2 drops of A314 and 3 sprays of IH4x when I attended my class. Nothing happened out of ordinary but could be that I recently changed my pheromone signature too often and my classmates had my image imprinted already. What really worked? Instant Female Magic did the job in comforting my colleague. She grabbed my arm and touched my back. She just would never do that. I also treated her well and she perceived that as an attraction. So IFM is the enhancement of what I have done. Instant Sexiness(A) made the girl irritated. As the enhancement as well, I did not create much comfort and skipped it to attraction. We ended up in unpleasant situation before parted. No return call. Also one of my colleague dislikes the smell of it. Instant Honesty did not do much and I did not have the opportunity to test it. All the environments I was in just did not fit for it. A314. Best when use with IH or IS. Other than that would mix the result. I tried it with Instant Sexiness once but not enough information to post. * * * ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/12 "2008-04-05T18:11:10Z")
I tried to put my notes together and here were the summary about A314. Really, I do love its smell. However, the girls do not. \*side note: I have a father persona. It has a lot to do with it. -As a standalone It gives out a strong but peaceful vibe. People pay more attention and are not afraid to approach. A drawback is that I have to always remain in my frame. Any childish behavior is less tolerated. My opinion It is hard to always keep myself on track. A314 is good as a standalone but I do not find it tasteful. -Layer with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) x4 People are very comfortable with me and want to stay close. There are trusts in the air. There were some alphas who tried to AMOG me when I wore this mix. I usually get good reactions from women at age of early or below 20s. My opinion I just do not feel right. There is an urge to steer truth from my mouth. Many times I said things I would feel stupid afterward. -Layer with Instant Shine x2 (same application as IH) A young father persona mix. People do not just stay close. They approach and open me. Not in a way of AMOGing me but a friendly and equal interaction. Women like this mix. Age groups are vary. My opinion It is all good. It does not soften A314 too much like IH. Again, my IH is x4 and IS is only x2 so maybe IH is too strong. Just my two cents. -Using both IS and IH Unconfirmed results. — Will add details later. It had been a long observation. If I missed out anything, please ask. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/13 "2008-04-06T19:44:12Z")
Kevin, your observations are good and it sounds like your starting to really put the pieces together. One thing I would point out is that sometimes less is more. The are significant reactions to [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) at just two sprays of regular strength. That’s 1/6th of 3 sprays of 4x IH. You don’t need that much IMF. Just use around 1-3 sprays. If you want to refresh a lot, start with one then refresh a little more frequently. You shouldn’t need much of it anyways. Remember less is more. ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2008, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/14 "2008-04-07T08:44:13Z")
Thanks Phya The thing with IMF was that I wanted to get OD and to see how my friends would react. I did not get any depression and I already depleted both to-go bottles of IMF(M and F versions). No differences but IMF(F) gave me a funny smell. ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/15 "2008-04-20T15:43:26Z")
Additional information for A314 Using 2 drops covered with 2 sprays of IHx4 and 2 sprays of ISx2 I think it makes a strong beta vibe. Not so attractive. People feel comfortable around me but not in attentive way, not ignoring but not want to bother. Some respects are in the air but, again, its lack of alphaness does not make much difference. I do not find this mix useful unless I want to remain unnoticed. Please note that my personality is quite that of a beta. So that complements it. My p83(15mcg) arrived today. I also just put -rone chemset in my old IS bottle. Its concentration is around 40mcg\> Gonna experiment some more 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/16 "2008-04-20T16:23:34Z")
Hey Kevio, Just wanted to say that I appreciate your reports. 2 drops A314 + 8x IH + 4xIshine is pretty heavy on the socials. You could probably use one spray of each since the concentrations are high if you feel that the beta vibe you are describing is not what you want. Also just working on improving some alpha traits, posture, voice, assertiveness could bring up the alpha vibe on that mix. Little steps make a big difference when A314 is involved, at least for me. Good reporting! Have Fun! ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/17 "2008-04-22T15:30:40Z")
Thanks I have been thinking the same. I tried putting on 3 drops of A314, 1 sprays of IH, 2 of IS. Things seem to work better. ---
**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/18 "2008-05-16T07:57:28Z")
Not much idea why I purchased Instant Sexiness/to-go. I recently depleted the bottle so here were what I found. Friend zone was easier to enter but provided not much of sexual vibe. My male friends were rather distancing but those acquaintances of mine liked being close. Could be of a changed [pheromone](https://a314.com/) signature? Or perhaps the female vibe was too much that it did not suit me? I did not feel any self-effect which was good. I wanted to put magic on people, not on me. I did notice one of my female friends cheered up a lot. - Chinese/25yo/3 sprays from to-go/met 2 hours after application My co-worker was more grumpy after being exposed. - Chinese/23-25yo??/3 sprays/30 mins to 5 hours after application/she was not in a good mood Another was more talkative but, again, no sexual vibe at all. - Thai/female/24yo/2 sprays/approx 2 hrs - 3 hrs Followings are quite trivia but fun(for me). I sprayed it on the back of my friend’s head (Thai/Male/28) and he became quite relaxed. I did the same to another friend (Nepal/Male/25-30?) but nothing happened. I covered the desk with 3 sprays before my co-worker got in and sit there. She noticed the smell but did nothing out of ordinary. (Japanese/f/29) I did 2 sprays on my Thai friend again about a week later. He was obviously more vigorous. Later, I assumed my Nepalese friend had a smoking habit and might prohibited pheromone from taking effect. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/19 "2008-05-16T17:00:08Z")
Hey Kevio, long time no see. [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) eh? Which one? A or B? What other tests have you done during all this time? ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125/20 "2008-05-16T20:34:27Z")
Hey kevio, I tested TAL and TAH by themselves for a while. TAL is the main ingredient in IS/A and TAH in IS/B. Your results sound like IS/A. Is that right? Did you notice that the ladies felt more confident talking to you about things? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/logbook/9125.md?page=2)