# Lone Wolves/CEE : IS/m + WAGG **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 4, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470 "2006-07-04T18:47:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/1 "2006-07-04T18:47:49Z")
2 sprays of IS/m (2X strength) 2 drops of WAGG OMG, this combo is so neat! I managed to put a smile on every female whom I met today. Never had I got such a welcoming & “graceful” response, not with WAGG alone. I recalled last year, when I wore 1 dab of NPA/w, a young petite girl took a step back in horror, arms covering her chest, as I stroll by. That was grizzly me. Today, the same girl met my gaze & smiled as I step down the staircase towards her. Nothing ever came close like this for me with other products. It is the most gratifying experience for me since using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) 2 years ago. This combo has the same effect on females of all ages (22-55 years old), stronger on the younger ladies. For the small group of users who are lone wolves, pheromones as a successful correction tool is invaluable. We have to fix & undo the aggressive/don’t-snap-with-me vibe before the positive characteristics of other pheromones could be used. Combos in the past could never put the finger on it. This combo will be my base mix, where other pheromones are added upon. People here have got to tell me other possible pheromones/putatives that could help to mitigate CEE. We have waited just as long as the ladies for an amazing breakthrough. However, I did not observe much positive & lengthy interactions from males with this combo, compared to WAGG alone. Hmm… what would other males feel if there’s a mone-boosted celebrity in their midst? Shy away in order not to look bad? It’s unlikely any male would “come under my wing” when I am the centre of attention. I need to fix this so as not to isolate myself from males at work. Is there a possibility of a tweaked version of IShine, specifically for ladies (i.e. IS/w) to reverse this situation? Thanks. i2w ---
**Author:** ![International\_Playboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/48db29/32.png) [@International\_Playboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/International_Playboy)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/2 "2006-07-05T01:30:04Z")
I need to break out the WAGG again and try it with different products. Your suggestion sounds like a good start. I’m pretty much a loner and tend to be introverted. WAGG was the second product I bought from LS , other than Realm (NPA was the first a year or two before that). And other than Realm, which I had been using for several years before discovering LS, WAGG was the first product that I saw anything noticable from other than hostility or apprehension.\* When I wore WAGG to work, I became more outgoing and was even treated to lunch one day by my boss for just doing my job. It was pretty good for me but I bought several products in succession after that and it went by the wayside. And after Chikara was released, that became my favorite until I came across the Androtics products and Instant Shine. \*(The first [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) that I ever used was “Andros,” which I was buying from an adult botique company called “Adam and Eve” back in the 1980s. It was ok, but the biggest effect I noticed was on my mom when I once received a new bottle. She was really enthusiastic about the smell. 😮 Not quite the target audience I was going for.) ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2006, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/3 "2006-07-05T08:35:18Z")
Yes I have had good results combining IS and WAGG too. I think IS adds to the mood lift (your’s and everyone else’s) whereas WAGG can make you feel kinda flat. Also the fact that WAGG is the best product I have tried for being ‘approachable’ blends quite well with the ‘space erasing’ effect of IS. Again just because you had one great day doesn’t mean it’s going to work perfectly forever. It isn’t a question of finding the Perfect Mix! The best policy, I do believe, is cycling products so that noone will be exposed to exactly the same signature for more than a few days in succession. As soon as they start getting used to your signature you can expect mone effectiveness on them to drop but could get the odd reaction still. I like your idea of finding a great ‘base combo’. I think then what you have to do is alternate the other mones around a base combo every 2-3 days/1-2 dates/etc if you are around the same people. What else has anyone found out of the Androtics range that works for the Clint Eastwood/Lone Wolf effect? TAC maybe? Visionary > [@itwow](#): > > 2 sprays of IS/m (2X strength) > 2 drops of WAGG > > OMG, this combo is so neat! I managed to put a smile on every female whom I met today. Never had I got such a welcoming & “graceful” response, not with WAGG alone. > > I recalled last year, when I wore 1 dab of NPA/w, a young petite girl took a step back in horror, arms covering her chest, as I stroll by. That was grizzly me. > > Today, the same girl met my gaze & smiled as I step down the staircase towards her. Nothing ever came close like this for me with other products. It is the most gratifying experience for me since using pheromones 2 years ago. > > This combo has the same effect on females of all ages (22-55 years old), stronger on the younger ladies. > > For the small group of users who are lone wolves, pheromones as a successful correction tool is invaluable. We have to fix & undo the aggressive/don’t-snap-with-me vibe before the positive characteristics of other pheromones could be used. Combos in the past could never put the finger on it. > > This combo will be my base mix, where other pheromones are added upon. People here have got to tell me other possible pheromones/putatives that could help to mitigate CEE. We have waited just as long as the ladies for an amazing breakthrough. > > However, I did not observe much positive & lengthy interactions from males with this combo, compared to WAGG alone. Hmm… what would other males feel if there’s a mone-boosted celebrity in their midst? Shy away in order not to look bad? It’s unlikely any male would “come under my wing” when I am the centre of attention. I need to fix this so as not to isolate myself from males at work. > > Is there a possibility of a tweaked version of IShine, specifically for ladies (i.e. IS/w) to reverse this situation? Thanks. > > i2w ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2006, 1:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/4 "2006-07-05T13:14:21Z")
We need at least 2 base combos for cycling sigs. Problem is there isn’t any WAGG equivalent, nothing comes close at the moment. I don’t remember how many pheromones is inside WAGG. Anyone care to remind me? To me, WAGG itself is an anchievement. I remember turning an enemy around with 3 drops of WAGG. I don’t have any other product quite like WAGG, which produces favorable reactions from both sexes (at the correct dosage) for me, and IIRC WAGG doesn’t contain ANOL or BNOL. WAGG doesn’t have -none or -rone from my experience. My bottle is running low. Maybe others could give some ideas/conclusions about TAC. I have tested TAC (10mcg) a few times. Notable responses came from young males (13-14 y.o) - like they were impressed/in-awe, waiting for me to talk to them older males (40-55 y.o.) - mild respect, less grouchy from old men, quite “flat” responses, not as friendly/admirable as WAGG effects females - nothing worth reporting The response with young males (above), could it be an OD reaction? I always thought kids could be brutally honest. If they’re happy or unhappy, they will make it aloud. Should I increase the dosage or reduce it? Any thoughts? PS : I could always identify someone in my office who is negative to a particular product. I engage their help to find an acceptable dosage by monitoring their reactions. There’s this guy who always show a grim face whenever I wear A1. I could test A1 & EST on him. My A1 is running very low (sigh). i2w ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/5 "2006-07-06T12:03:10Z")
WAGG for some reason seems to be a wussy mone. I tried it on certain people and I noticed that girls were prone to treating you like a “nice guy” and you were more of a target for bully’s. ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/6 "2006-07-06T15:58:25Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > WAGG for some reason seems to be a wussy mone. I tried it on certain people and I noticed that girls were prone to treating you like a “nice guy” and you were more of a target for bully’s. “Wussy” does justice to over-intense guys like me 😃 Smoothen the edges, round-off extremes (-none OD) etc ANOL seems to perform a similar job, but not quite there. Used in large quantities could do the job but need to deal with the extra chattiness (too low inhibitions, where anything shoots from the mouth without thinking). Main difference between WAGG & ANOL, WAGG does the job without me needing to communicate directly. This makes it far easier to build up on congruency skills, especially for newbies. WAGG also eases approachability & “lubricates” intense combos. “Too easy to approach” makes people “don’t think about consequences” when responding, which could come off as “bullying”, as opposed to hesitation when interacting with an “intense & big” guy. WAGG could be handy when intense mixes don’t work. I often “layer” WAGG with A314 (side by side strips on the neck). Often, it’s a matter of dosage when it comes out too wussy 😃 PS : Being wussy could be a strategic advantage at times, where a courageous act could claim victory. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/7 "2006-07-06T18:40:07Z")
I wonder then if Androtics offers their own version of an equivalent to WAGG. ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2006, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/8 "2006-07-06T18:58:07Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > I wonder then if Androtics offers their own version of an equivalent to WAGG. I’m listening…! 😃 Nothing less than A-WAGG from Androtics A-WAGG Absolutely\>What-A-Great-Guy! 😃 😃 LOL Seriously. i2w ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 6:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/9 "2006-07-07T06:22:13Z")
This week, I’ve received more hand waves, hellos, hi & other greetings than in a month, thanks to IS/m + WAGG. They hi me from across the hall, corridors, rooms etc & the next day, from outside a closed glass window (a 1st one) 😃 I work with young males (teens) & adults from both genders. Hi from young males & gays (young & old, chuckles…), eyeing & hair flipping (afar) from females, nothing from straight males. 😃 [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), TAC, Meo-EST could be a sidekick or alternative to WAGG but they work in a different way. See here before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? > [@before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476): > > There is so much fragmented information about the [putative pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) properties. We should make notes here about all we have learned to date regarding the behaviors of these molecules. i2w