# Lookin' for something new

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 15, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748 "2011-06-15T05:04:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![anon13543563](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbe5ce/32.png) [@anon13543563](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/anon13543563)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/1 "2011-06-15T05:04:26Z")

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**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/2 "2011-06-15T05:43:34Z")

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> [@anon13543563](#):
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> this year was a wonderful one, especially with the help of mones. too bad i ran out of IG. it helped alot..!
> 
> so i was looking through the store.. and i was wondering what was
> 
> A314 1.23 A and A314 1.23 B?
> 
> any more suggestions? i’m 16.

Hey Cradlerobber, not gonna ask how you been; you just said you were doing fine. 😃

A314 is a serious trust and respect mone. Has a serious alpha vibe, good for those guys looking to be taken seriously as a capable, trustworthy, respectable guy by his peers (working) and as someone who is ‘a catch’; dependable, trustworthy etc by the ladies.

A314 is not recommended by the guys for someone as young as you. It could come off as an OD, it’s just too much. The guys here don’t even recommend it to other guys unless they’re really confident and have experience with mones and sweet spot testing.

What they do suggest, is to work up to it with IG. Which has been described as A314’s Little Bro.

There’s a whole discussion thread just for A314 users. You could check it out and maybe PM one of the guys in there.

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**Author:** ![slingblade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@slingblade](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slingblade)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/3 "2011-06-15T07:00:05Z")

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Just buy the best androtics products:

A314, TUTH, IS, and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), probably in that order. Work from there.

From what I’ve read, I believe the difference is in scent between those two A314 options.

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/4 "2011-06-15T07:06:42Z")

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Take it from someone who’ve tested almost the whole instant line and the same age as yours: don’t buy A314. Unless you are working somewhere where you want to be perceived as independable and trustworthy or may be you are a salesman.. then just stay away from A314. It will only seriously piss off your parents too.

The only time I would recommend someone to use a314 for social purposes is when you use it around people that you already know. if you are trying to prove to them that you are the new tribe leader, a314 will help you with that. girls who know and you think are out of your league, a314 would help with that too. otherwise i think its too serious (business) for strangers in a social environment.

Re-stock with IG if it gave you good results. May be add on ISHINE if you want to add a little happiness to the product and mood. IO/IH are good too to experiment with for this age.

Out of all the products I own (look in my signature), the ones that’s always been consistent in the results and effective are: IG, IO, IH, IS and AMMO.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/5 "2011-06-15T10:32:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The only time I would recommend someone to use [a314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) for social purposes is when you use it around people that you already know. if you are trying to prove to them that you are the new tribe leader, [a314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) will help you with that. girls who know and you think are out of your league, [a314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) would help with that too. otherwise i think its too serious (business) for strangers in a social environment.

I just want to point out so no one misunderstands that this advice applys because of both Pherojack and craddlerobbers age. 17 and 16. Just in case some newbies read it and dont realize its age related.

Its a powerful signal and girls in there age range may not respond socially very well to it and I agree on PJ’s take on it. However for men in there 20’s and up its a whole different ball game and used with the correct buffers or even on its own if your personality allows A314 will work for attraction in social situations.

> [@](#):
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> It will only seriously piss off your parents too.

Now this can happen depending on the parents. Some parents are just not ready to let there kids launch into adulthood and A314 is a loud signal that there little boy is becoming a man. Not sexually, although thats part of it, but mentally.

My son is 17 and I do let him use A314 on occasion. Of course I am aware its there so I dont get pissed off and I wouldn’t anyway because my goal is to get him ready for manhood just like I did with his brother. He uses it when going to work. I think it helped alot in his interviews.

He uses it when in situations where he needs to come across as more powerful, mature and respected. Just when he needs to kick it up a notch more then IG. Around his GF parents, when he knows he needs to impress a teacher. He buffers it well as to not put girls off and he is extremely outgoing so it works well for him.

When he is just going out socially he sticks to a little IG and the socials. He sometimes sneaks his fathers Ammo to but its the original scent and I smell it right away. He tried P83 without my knowledge, which I cant smell and its banned from him until he is 30 LOL. He told me after the fact when I had to pick him up from the police station… no crime really just some wild partying and naked teenagers down at the lake LOL

Lots of mones are age dependant for the kind of results you will see so keep this in m ind when reading posts and check on the persons age if your unsure.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/6 "2011-06-15T13:25:11Z")

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> [@anon13543563](#):
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> so i was looking through the store.. and i was wondering what was
> 
> A314 1.23 A and A314 1.23 B?

Only difference is the dose. The A-version is slightly stronger.

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**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/7 "2011-06-15T13:36:24Z")

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> [@anon13543563](#):
>
> this year was a wonderful one, especially with the help of mones. too bad i ran out of IG. it helped alot..!
> 
> so i was looking through the store.. and i was wondering what was
> 
> A314 1.23 A and A314 1.23 B?
> 
> any more suggestions? i’m 16.

I’d wait on a314. Run IG again, get yourself some AMMO and a few socials (IS and IO are my 2 fav. socials)

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/8 "2011-06-15T13:42:59Z")

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IMO the sprays would be even worse than the oils.  
A314 was originally designed to be used as an oil based product, which is slow diffusing and can last 8 hours or more.  
The sprays were made in response to observations that it’s effectiveness sometimes decreases in colder weather. So AD made the sprays.  
Now I feel that even oil based A314 can be TOO serious and dominant for a teenager for the reasons other already mentioned.  
Considering the spray based products last approx 4 hours, that means version B which has about the same concentration of mones per spray as the oil does per drop will likely hit twice as hard. When you figure that version A is about 1.5 times the concentration you’re really working with something that may be too much.

If you’re a teenager and want a status raising “alpha” vibe then I suggest…  
1 spray IG, it’s a kinder, gentler A314 vibe. More appropriate for younger users and not as overbearing and serious.  
1 Spray Ammo, I’m not too worried about the None as IG seems to have a slight None taming quality.  
1 Spray either IO or Shine, to further buffer things and make sure that your dominance doesn’t come off too negatively to the point of being unapproachable and unlikeable.

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/10 "2011-06-15T17:40:53Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
>
> I just want to point out so no one misunderstands that this advice applys because of both Pherojack and craddlerobbers age. 17 and 16. Just in case some newbies read it and dont realize its age related.
> 
> Its a powerful signal and girls in there age range may not respond socially very well to it and I agree on PJ’s take on it. However for men in there 20’s and up its a whole different ball game and used with the correct buffers or even on its own if your personality allows A314 will work for attraction in social situations.
> 
> Now this can happen depending on the parents. Some parents are just not ready to let there kids launch into adulthood and A314 is a loud signal that there little boy is becoming a man. Not sexually, although thats part of it, but mentally.
> 
> My son is 17 and I do let him use A314 on occasion. Of course I am aware its there so I dont get pissed off and I wouldn’t anyway because my goal is to get him ready for manhood just like I did with his brother. He uses it when going to work. I think it helped alot in his interviews.
> 
> He uses it when in situations where he needs to come across as more powerful, mature and respected. Just when he needs to kick it up a notch more then IG. Around his GF parents, when he knows he needs to impress a teacher. He buffers it well as to not put girls off and he is extremely outgoing so it works well for him.
> 
> When he is just going out socially he sticks to a little IG and the socials. He sometimes sneaks his fathers Ammo to but its the original scent and I smell it right away. He tried P83 without my knowledge, which I cant smell and its banned from him until he is 30 LOL. He told me after the fact when I had to pick him up from the police station… no crime really just some wild partying and naked teenagers down at the lake LOL
> 
> Lots of mones are age dependant for the kind of results you will see so keep this in m ind when reading posts and check on the persons age if your unsure.
> 
> Tisha

Can you be my mom 😃?  
LOL! Your son must be lucky to have a cool mom like that.

OT: My advice was certainly advised towards youngsters under the age of 19. A314 is so powerful eh ? 🆒

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/11 "2011-06-15T19:04:09Z")

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> [@slingblade](#):
>
> Just buy the best androtics products:
> 
> A314, TUTH, IS, and Ammo, probably in that order. Work from there.
> 
> From what I’ve read, I believe the difference is in scent between those two A314 options.

PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU GIVE THE WRONG INFORMATION. IF YOU DONT KNOW THEN DONT SAY ANYTHING.

Also if you read HIS AGE you would know that A314, TUTH, and AMMO WOULD NOT BE SUITABLE BECAUSE OF THE ANDROSTENONE CONTENT. Moreover, the incongruencies that he would project wearing A314 AT 16 would CONFUSE those around him.

> [@](#):
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> **FAQ**
> 
> * * *
> 
> **I’m new to A314, what does it do?**
> 
> * * *
> 
> A314 has been shown to enhance the trust and respect you receive from those around you. People often see A314 users as a source of authority and someone to follow.
> 
> While A314 is useful in many social contexts the place where A314 really shines and proves it’s worth is in business and at work. For less than the cost of a Starbucks coffee per day, your social status and the benefits that come with it can improve.
> 
> To learn more about the world famous “A314 Effect” check out the description of the original A314 oil, which was generated from real people like you who use the product.
> 
> You can also search [pherotalk.com](http://pherotalk.com) for the keyword “A314”.
> 
> **What are the differences between this and the original oil-based version of A314?**
> 
> * * *
> 
> Our clients tell us the effects are a little more present than with the original oil based version of A314, especially in areas that are cooler or are getting chillier during fall and winter. This has to do with the differences between diffusion of the spray vs the oil.
> 
> **How many does do I get?**
> 
> * * *
> 
> You get 40 doses, all of which are slightly more powerful than a standard drop of the A314 oil edition. You get enhanced trust and respect in a portable format, for less than 70 cents per dose.
> 
> **This is a little more expensive than other pheromone](javascript:void(0)😉 products, can you tell me if it’d be useful for me, and help me justify the price?**
> 
> * * *
> 
> It depends on who you are, what desires you have, and your own personal values.
> 
> While we firmly believe that almost everybody would benefit if they at least try A314, we have to be completely honest and tell you that there’s 3 categories of people who shouldn’t even bother.
> 
> 1. A314 is not for the type of people who are most concerned with cost per spray or price of a bottle and don’t care much about the actual effects produced in their life.
> 
> A314 is for people who set their sights on the big stuff in life – people who might say they’re pound wise, and penny foolish, instead of vice versa. It’s for people who don’t “sweat the small stuff”.
> 
> 1. A314 is not for people who are looking for a traditional pheromone](javascript:void(0)😉 product that is supposed to make women fall out of trees and force women to hump your leg.
> 
> While no product will truly produce the effects you see in Axe commercials or in movies like “Oceans 13” with George Clooney, A314 in particular is NOT a sexual pheromone](javascript:void(0)😉 in any traditional sense.
> 
> While some users report that it’s sexy and can help attract high value women looking for relationships, it’s definitely not a “sexual fantasy” pheromone](javascript:void(0)😉 or a “play the field” product _at all_. You’d want to use our own “Ammo” product for anything approaching that, just keeping in mind that effects from movies and in most ads are overplayed.
> 
> 1. A314 is not for people who would rather believe a sales page from a con artist or criminal (the type of predatory company that dominates most pheromone](javascript:void(0)😉 sales) rather than a science based company that tries it’s best to produce real products with real values. In fact, nothing we offer is for these people - not A314 or any other of our products.
> 
> If you want big claims and fake studies, fake charts and fake certificates of analysis try products like Pherlure or other advertising induced placebo effect based products. Just be aware that recent studies show that even the best placebo effects tend to wear off after a few weeks. For this reason, you might even want to save yourself some money and buy Axe or Lynx. Their products contain no pheromones or chemosensory compounds to note, but their ads are absolutely fantastic!
> 
> On the other hand, if you want something that truly can help you achieve great things in your life, then you may want to continue reading and carefully consider what A314 often provides.
> 
> What A314 excels at is exactly what it actually does in the real world. Beyond what any copywriter could come up about it, A314 really does help to establish you as an authority, someone to trust and follow. It’s almost parental or a “pillar of the community” type effect. The benefits blossom from these core effects.
> 
> In business contexts, it’s often invaluable. Our users can’t rave enough about how much A314 tends to assist them at work and in sales environments.
> 
> While we can’t guarantee anything specific involving income (both because we don’t have a crystal ball, nor do certain speech restriction in the US allow such claims), we can say that long term users do report moving upwards at their companies. Many working in sales see an increased closing rate. In a business context, almost all users say that A314 easily pays for itself many, many times over.
> 
> **How about results with women?**
> 
> * * *
> 
> While not a sexual product, A314 does give off a “real man” or “strong, reliable man” type signal and can help to properly identify your role with women who are looking for these types of men. Typically, these are high quality and healthy women looking to settle down. For example women looking for children, for a stable household, etc. While A314 is definitely not useful for playing the field or casual flings, it can be useful for men looking for the right woman to create a home with.
> 
> **Other effects?**
> 
> * * *
> 
> Beyond business and romantic uses, there’s many other places A314 shines. Our clients often tell us moving stories of transforming their lives with A314 and occasionally they’re not even easy to believe.
> 
> Yet we’ve heard these stories and seen the effects with our own eyes time and time again. Since we don’t know how to easily to put these benefits into words ourselves, check out the forum PheroTalk at [pherotalk.com](http://pherotalk.com) and use the keyword “A314”.
> 
> **Summary?**
> 
> * * *
> 
> All things considered, A314 works well for what it does and it delivers real world results that make it quite affordable when all things are considered.
> 
> So what is the most unbelievable aspect of A314 is the cost per dose when compared to what every thing else costs in real life. Again, you can often upgrade your life with A314 for less than the cost of most Starbucks coffee per day.
> 
> Something else to consider: most people don’t live beyond 25 thousand days. Some lives are cut much shorter and while a few exceptional lives do run a bit longer, a 25 thousand days is about standard.
> 
> To even be old enough to have the credit card necessary to buy this product, you’re lived at least a quarter of those days. By the time you’re in your thirties you have about half remaining.
> 
> For about the cost of a cup of coffee a day, you can get a short lived caffeine buzz, or with A314 you can often change your position in the social hierarchy for the better and make the most out of your time on this planet – and reap all of the rewards that come with it. Which one is more worth it to you?

> [@](#):
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> **NEW!** Now enhanced trust and respect can be always ready for you right in your pocket.
> 
> The new A314 To Go Format allows you to use and re-up this product exactly where and when you need it.
> 
> This spray is version 1.23A, which has the same formulation as revision 23 of the original A314 oil-based product. The “A” version is slightly more potent than a single drop of A314 per spray.

> [@](#):
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> **NEW!** Now enhanced trust and respect can be always ready for you right in your pocket.
> 
> The new A314 To Go Format allows you to use and re-up this product exactly where and when you need it.
> 
> This spray is version 1.23B, which has the same formulation as revision 23 of the original A314 oil-based product. The “B” version is about as potent as a single drop of A314 per spray. For a more potent spray, try Version “1.23A ([https://a314.com/](https://a314.com/))”.

Moreover you could have read it here:

> [@Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802):
>
> AD offers a wide array of pheromones out there. There’s been more and more new users asking about products and what not. To start off here are some basic guides for pheromones. This is a great writeup by Steve O to test pheromones out that you receive. [How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-sweet-spot/55943)[http://www.pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-today/introduction-](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-the-introductions-new-users-say-hello-category/189702)[pheromones-names-size-strength-use-46373.html](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012) Here is also a guide to the molecules by toilofd…

Sorry but this pisses me off to no end. IF YOU DONT KNOW DONT SAY ANYTHING.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lookin-for-something-new/50748/13 "2011-06-16T01:14:19Z")

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I don’t think you will have to wait very long - Whenever I’ve seen any of the Instant Line go out of stock, it has come back pretty fast. This is Androtics bread and butter range after all. 🙂
