# Looking for help and advice on what to start with **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 29, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391 "2009-05-29T19:42:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![basudz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@basudz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/basudz)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/1 "2009-05-29T19:42:03Z")
Hey guys, I’ve never used [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) before and have been reading up on them, but I’m overwhelmed with the product selection and the promo’s vs all the mixed reviews..I need some advice on what to start out with.. Basically I frequent smaller type bars..sports bars, karaokee bars and live dive bar type places..Not into the big club scene anymore, like more the low key settings.. So I’d like to find a combination of pheromones to work best in that environment..any suggestions? I should probably add that I am most attracted to women in their mid to late 20’s..not sure if that makes a difference here but I’ve read a few posts on products geared towards different age ranges. ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/2 "2009-05-29T20:22:27Z")
The first phero a guy who wants to increase attraction, should start with is [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), just by itself. Maybe consider getting A314 and also trying that by itself too. Once you have a good idea of what these do, A314 + Ammo is a pretty good, every day, combo to wear, I find. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/3 "2009-05-29T20:26:39Z")
My advice: Get a bottle of Ammo. Forget the rest for now. Just keep it simple. Ammo is awesome stuff. Easy to use. Effective. Get into how that works for you at various doses… and then worry about other stuff. ---
**Author:** ![basudz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@basudz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/basudz)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/4 "2009-05-29T20:31:36Z")
Thanks for the advice..would i mix these with normal cologne or apply after normal cologne, or forget the normal cologne all together? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/5 "2009-05-29T20:46:21Z")
You don’t need cologne with them… but you can add cologne before ior after if you like. Mind the potential of scent clash. ---
**Author:** ![basudz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@basudz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/basudz)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/6 "2009-05-29T20:46:38Z")
I guess the main products I was curious about are the chikara / ?? combos and or the pherlure / ?? combos? I’ve read good and bad about both base products, and lots of good things about chikara combo’d with some others..some good but a couple bad also about the pherlure combos.. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/7 "2009-05-29T20:47:32Z")
> [@basudz](#): > > I guess the main products I was curious about are the chikara / ?? combos and or the pherlure / ?? combos? I’ve read good and bad about both base products, and lots of good things about chikara combo’d with some others..some good but a couple bad also about the pherlure combos.. You’re on the wrong forum for really getting much dealing with those. You’ll do better asking about those over on the forum for Love Scent. ---
**Author:** ![basudz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@basudz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/basudz)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/8 "2009-05-29T20:50:33Z")
is this forum against those products in a sense? ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/9 "2009-05-29T21:32:26Z")
> [@basudz](#): > > is this forum against those products in a sense? No, not at all. It’s just they are not sold here, the chikara (aka C7) is sold at Love Scent and the pherlure is sold, well… Some people have good results with chikara and others, including me, don’t. I was one of the beta testers for it. You might want to do a search for pherlure on the forum for people’s results (very mixed). Just so you know, I’m a Mod over at Love Scent. ---
**Author:** ![basudz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@basudz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/basudz)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/10 "2009-05-29T23:20:17Z")
So it sounds like I’m just gonna have to try some different combination’s because each product works different with everyone’s body chemistry? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/11 "2009-05-29T23:30:19Z")
> [@basudz](#): > > is this forum against those products in a sense? No, not at all. We’re not against LS products or LS in the slightest. It’s just that those products, as mtnjim said, are not sold here, so you will find more knowledgeable responders and more responses etc. where they are sold. LS is a good company, and one of only two I would trust to buy mones from. I just am mainly focused on Androtics products, and most people here are… so it makes sense that to get advice on products they sell… visit their forums. As for trying different combinations, get to know each product by itself first at different dosages. But you are right, everyone has different responses because of unique body chemistry. ---
**Author:** ![Jay55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e68b1a/32.png) [@Jay55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jay55)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-for-help-and-advice-on-what-to-start-with/29391/12 "2009-05-29T23:35:05Z")
I have used Pherlure in the past, and it was a complete waste of money for me. Other than being a pretty decent-smelling cologne, there were no noticeable differences on myself or those around me, which is kinda why I have been so skeptical about Androtics line, but this seems to be a LOT better quality stuff that I really want to try out! Good luck, but I would not recommend Pherlure based off of my own personal experiences… but hey, everyone is different!!