# Looking forward to trying this out.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [August 16, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833 "2011-08-16T14:40:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![archangel689](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@archangel689](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/archangel689)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/1 "2011-08-16T14:40:35Z")

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Age 30, Male, South Western PA. Thin build, 6ft tall. Good looking but not amazing. Dresses well. Frequents tapas bars and expensive lounges.

My background started in the PU community, however I have since moved on. I really do my own thing now any stay away from 99% of PU material as new things generally send me off track, and in my option are generally wrong. I am by no means gifted with women but have painstakingly learned how to be, the hard way.

I go on a lot of dates so I will have a lot of opportunities to try various products up close and personal. I went on three dates last week. I am looking for that one special woman though and have one woman I have been dating, and used to have sex with, but she has closed the gates on me. She sways back and forth on this issue. Perhaps [pheromones](https://a314.com/) would help with this situation.

I am generally a nervous person. I am nervous about things like driving and didn’t actually learn until I was 25. I am generally anxious about things like dating and it’s just a part of my personality. When out on a date, I’ll make sure I have at least one drink before my date arrives. I think that perhaps pheromones (314 or socials) may help alleviate this problem without alcohol.

Additionally I think that perhaps I may get some sort of edge from it on dates.

The women I date and am interested in dating are 24-29 age range. I generally try to stay towards the younger end of the spectrum. What I wear should be geared towards this. I look forward to trying these products out on dates and reporting my findings.

Arch

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**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/2 "2011-08-16T14:41:01Z")

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Welcome!

Hi archangel, nice to see you here.

Great, PUA is good, why you are stay away from them? PUA + mones = casanova. Oh, I understand basically the basic principle are enough. See mones are only tools, your personality and social skills are the key. By the way in what way do you need help to improve your game? Opening , staying in sets, rapport etc.? With better infos we help you much better and you can get a really nice gift certifcate.

Yes, we have something for the nervous and anxious thing and it’s better as alcohol.😛 First, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) it’s a mood booster for you and other people in a circuit on you. A exciting aura, then is there A314, it’s a big weapon, higher status, serious trust and respect. All in all the cool guy image with superb self effects. Much better self-confidence. Try the oil version. It’s really effective on the workplace and for women. Maybe alone too intimidating, Instant Shine and a social element like IO for fast icebreaking or IH, for bonding, trust and depth. For the sexual edge add TUTH, it’s sex in the bottle.

Dude, with this combo, especially A314, you are high value on dates. It has a imprint effect. 😉

I hope it help you and it would be nice if you tell us something more about you, for example your hobbies and how you find pherotalk.

Rock the girls, dude! 🙂🆒😉

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**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/3 "2011-08-16T15:06:07Z")

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Hi there archangel,

don’t fret about nervousness…

For every negative habit that we possess, we possess also something of equally positive in value in the eyes of others. It is just how we see and portray it that counts.

Here are some products that you might want to consider when venturing into this world;

1. A314 - Respect
2. TUTH - Sexual Intimacy
3. Ammo - Great All rounder
4. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) - Great Attraction feel good vibe

Generally, as you improve yourself as a person, like most of us do here, we all start to become a very positive influence on others and in their lives. This community aims to do just that.

Hope you enjoy your stay here!

Welcome to [PTalk.com](http://PTalk.com)!

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/4 "2011-08-16T15:09:33Z")

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**Hello and be welcome here at PheroTalk Forums !**

and i don´t have much to add …

I see you´d get some solid advise from the boy´s …

but what i don´t understand as well why you want to stay away from PUA …

you say you have lot of success with women … GREAT

PU has got a bad image .. i know .. but that´s because of the women´s movement ..

hmm it looks like you´ve read up quite a bit on the collected knowledge here ..

and Johnny ad Oasis has covered all quesions and what the products do …

so i don´t wanna bother you with more get this or that ..

we´re happy that we have some new buddy here ..

stick around the board as much as you can .. and

maybe you´ll start a journal and we can participate on your adventures ..

have a good time ..

Pago

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**Author:** ![archangel689](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@archangel689](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/archangel689)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/5 "2011-08-16T15:18:37Z")

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> [@JohnnyHard](#):
>
> Welcome!
> 
> Hi archangel, nice to see you here.
> 
> Great, PUA is good, why you are stay away from them? PUA + mones = casanova. Oh, I understand basically the basic principle are enough.

Yes, they very much are. Additionally, certain things work better for other people than others. I have found what works for me. If I was to recommend a starting point for someone it would be Sean Messenger.

> [@JohnnyHard](#):
>
> By the way in what way do you need help to improve your game?

I don’t do active approaching any longer (I used to for 4 years but no longer need to). I go to singles happy hours where people already have some trust for eachother. I also do a lot of online dating.

> [@JohnnyHard](#):
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> Opening , staying in sets, rapport etc.?

The biggest trouble is sometimes I get close to a woman too quickly, and they stop talking to me. I’ll kiss a woman and they won’t show for a second date. I suppose this is a comfort, or rapport problem.

> [@JohnnyHard](#):
>
> With better infos we help you much better and you can get a really nice gift certifcate.

Whatever you’d like to know, I’m here to be of assistance any way I can.

> [@JohnnyHard](#):
>
> Yes, we have something for the nervous and anxious thing and it’s better as alcohol.😛 First, Instant Shine it’s a mood booster for you and other people in a circuit on you. A exciting aura, then is there A314, it’s a big weapon, higher status, serious trust and respect. All in all the cool guy image with superb self effects. Much better self-confidence. Try the oil version. It’s really effective on the workplace and for women. Maybe alone too intimidating, Instant Shine and a social element like IO for fast icebreaking or IH, for bonding, trust and depth. For the sexual edge add TUTH, it’s sex in the bottle.

Sounds like a starting point to try!

> [@JohnnyHard](#):
>
> Dude, with this combo, especially A314, you are high value on dates. It has a imprint effect. 😉
> 
> I hope it help you and it would be nice if you tell us something more about you, for example your hobbies and how you find pherotalk.

I am a huge foodie. I suppose that could be considered a hobby. I make my own beer. I drive a Jeep. I also take a karate class and like to do tango dancing. I sometimes take dates tango dancing. In my free time I work on my house and I hang out with my friend that’s a police officer. I work as a Interactive Designer for an Advertising Agency.

I have an old bottle of Scent of Eros sitting around that my roommate left in my house. I searched google to find out what it was and pherotalk came up in the search results.

Arch.

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**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/6 "2011-08-16T15:25:31Z")

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> [@archangel689](#):
>
> Yes, they very much are. Additionally, certain things work better for other people than others. I have found what works for me. If I was to recommend a starting point for someone it would be Sean Messenger.
> 
> I don’t do active approaching any longer (I used to for 4 years but no longer need to). I go to singles happy hours where people already have some trust for eachother. I also do a lot of online dating.
> 
> The biggest trouble is sometimes I get close to a woman too quickly, and they stop talking to me. I’ll kiss a woman and they won’t show for a second date. I suppose this is a comfort, or rapport problem.
> 
> Whatever you’d like to know, I’m here to be of assistance any way I can.
> 
> Sounds like a starting point to try!
> 
> I am a huge foodie. I suppose that could be considered a hobby. I make my own beer. I drive a Jeep. I also take a karate class and like to do tango dancing. I sometimes take dates tango dancing. In my free time I work on my house and I hang out with my friend that’s a police officer. I work as a Interactive Designer for an Advertising Agency.
> 
> I have an old bottle of Scent of Eros sitting around that my roommate left in my house. I searched google to find out what it was and pherotalk came up in the search results.
> 
> Arch.

Oh the good old Scent of Eros… It’s nice, but I find it unconstant.

For the comfort thing, IH and especially MX412. Try the A314 + IS + TUTH (can be to sexual) and add IH or MX412, both are bonding and comfort.

Wow, your own beer?😮 Tango, dude the girls must love you, especially much more with the mones now. 😛😉 Intersting live, game + mones… 🆒

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**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/7 "2011-08-16T15:30:23Z")

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By the way, I think the gift certificate is yours, please wait on our sweetheart Mickaelia, maybe 24 hours. And if she read that you can dance Tango, maybe more… 🙄;)😃

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**Author:** ![archangel689](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@archangel689](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/archangel689)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/8 "2011-08-16T15:31:15Z")

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> [@Pagodeiro](#):
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> but what i don´t understand as well why you want to stay away from PUA

because it’s training wheels. You have to become your own teacher at some point. You gotta drop the charade and authentically connect with someone.

Check out: [http://lvo3.websitetoolbox.com/](http://lvo3.websitetoolbox.com/)

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**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/9 "2011-08-16T15:35:02Z")

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Pagodeiro it’s what I always say, natural and personality game is PUA 2.0, calls the Soul Glo… 😛😃😉 He is right… 😉

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**Author:** ![archangel689](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@archangel689](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/archangel689)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/10 "2011-08-16T15:35:53Z")

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> [@JohnnyHard](#):
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> For the comfort thing, IH and especially MX412. Try the A314 + IS + TUTH (can be to sexual) and add IH or MX412, both are bonding and comfort.

I’m probably going to have try these. Tango is good… But use it as a date more than using it as a way to pick a girl up!

Normal is so underrated. I get most of my dates by just being normal, most dudes act weird around chicks.

What is MX412?

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**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/11 "2011-08-16T20:21:16Z")

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> [@archangel689](#):
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> I’m probably going to have try these. Tango is good… But use it as a date more than using it as a way to pick a girl up!
> 
> Normal is so underrated. I get most of my dates by just being normal, most dudes act weird around chicks.
> 
> What is MX412?

MX412 is all in all social, nothing sexual, but a great bonding and comfort maker for girls, it’s gold in a attraction combo.

I know, know but I mean a guy who can dance is a big plus for all the girls… 😉

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**Author:** ![archangel689](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@archangel689](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/archangel689)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/12 "2011-08-17T02:00:20Z")

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> [@JohnnyHard](#):
>
> MX412 is all in all social, nothing sexual, but a great bonding and comfort maker for girls, it’s gold in a attraction combo.
> 
> I know, know but I mean a guy who can dance is a big plus for all the girls… 😉

Ah, perhaps. I have a date coming up so I will report back.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/13 "2011-08-18T18:56:54Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Archangel!

I hope your date went well and you did actually report back. Consistent, quality reporting not only benefits us as a research and development company but it greatly benefits you as well.

**Your gc was issued! 😉**

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**Author:** ![archangel689](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@archangel689](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/archangel689)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/looking-forward-to-trying-this-out/51833/14 "2011-08-18T19:00:27Z")

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> [@Arch (Age 30, white male)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/arch-age-30-white-male/51869):
>
> Great reporting! I’m digging your report and especially the MX421 report.
