# Lost, help. Too much information to make a decision **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 1, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lost-help-too-much-information-to-make-a-decision/64103 "2015-04-01T01:30:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![InProgress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e7dd6/32.png) [@InProgress](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/InProgress)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lost-help-too-much-information-to-make-a-decision/64103/1 "2015-04-01T01:30:19Z")
Hi, I’ve made a post yesterday about getting out of the friend zone, and I’ve got some good advices from Lakerman34. Beside the need to get that old friend to look at me like she did the first months, I want to continue to go out and meet new girls (25 to 35 yo) in the street, at work or in bars. My only issue is that there is a lot of informations on the forum and I can’t make my mind about which product to buy, what combo and what quantity. I’m comfortable with girls and I make them laugh a lot, but only when I know them. I’ve such a hard time approaching women unless i’m drunk but I screw up everything. Even when I get the woman attention, it takes too long to ask her to go out. I don’t know if it’s low self esteem, yet, I don’t think it’s the case. Maybe only with women. or maybe I’m over-analyzing the situation. Whatever it is, it’s making my life harder when it comes to find a girl friend, but oddly, I don’t have this problem when I’m approaching a girl for sexual purposes. With or without Pheromones (it’s much easier with) I can say that each time I went out hunting, I got a girl in my bed. But I have to be in good mood and be prepared, otherwise, it won’t happen. So here is my dilemma, I’ve found 5 products that are discussed here a lot, but I can’t choose which combination to choose to start testing quickly: A314 Ammo Instant Openness [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) Instant Shine All constructive comments are welcome. Don’t hesitate to ask me for more information about my profil if needed. Thank you, PS: I’m a consultant and trainer, so I’m always in contact with directors and CEOs of SMEs ---
**Author:** ![InProgress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e7dd6/32.png) [@InProgress](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/InProgress)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lost-help-too-much-information-to-make-a-decision/64103/2 "2015-04-01T17:40:25Z")
So I’ve bought these products and I wonder what to mix with what and in which circumstances? Ammo A314 [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) CTTM v2 TUTH and got Putative P95 for free. I need your advices to start experimenting and avoid beginner mistakes. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lost-help-too-much-information-to-make-a-decision/64103/3 "2015-04-01T17:58:18Z")
> [@InProgress](#): > > So I’ve bought these products and I wonder what to mix with what and in which circumstances? > Ammo > A314 > Instant Shine > CTTM v2 > TUTH > and got Putative P95 for free. > > I need your advices to start experimenting and avoid beginner mistakes. > > Thank you. I’d go with A314+IShine+IO+HALF a spray of TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![InProgress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e7dd6/32.png) [@InProgress](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/InProgress)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lost-help-too-much-information-to-make-a-decision/64103/4 "2015-04-02T03:03:30Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > I’d go with A314+IShine+IO+HALF a spray of TUTH. Unfortunatly, I didn’t order IO. I’ve seen that A314 + IShine & [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) are a good mix and some people said that’s their prefered mix. Can I add CTTM to that? An other question I have, what do you mean, here in the forum, by layering? and how to apply that to this mix (which comes first, and so on)? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lost-help-too-much-information-to-make-a-decision/64103/5 "2015-04-02T14:03:13Z")
At 31, I’d suggest it is better to keep IO well away from A314 - you probably won’t be needing to tone it down. Otherwise A314/IH/IS is a good adult conversation/status combo but if you don’t have that, A314/IS is still pretty engaging. Also Ammo/IS/A314, or CTTM/TUTH. Layering the sprays together is fine - don’t get too hung-up on application. The only thing to avoid is spraying over A314 oil but you can use oil points close to sprays to take advantage of diffusion. ---
**Author:** ![dkracing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dkracing](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dkracing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lost-help-too-much-information-to-make-a-decision/64103/6 "2015-04-02T14:56:19Z")
Me personally 1 spray of A314 is more than enough, hell one spray of tuth with the A314..And the ladies are stuttering words, as if they had a speech inpediment. ---
**Author:** ![InProgress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e7dd6/32.png) [@InProgress](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/InProgress)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lost-help-too-much-information-to-make-a-decision/64103/7 "2015-04-02T16:14:47Z")
Thank you guys. ---
**Author:** ![InProgress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e7dd6/32.png) [@InProgress](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/InProgress)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lost-help-too-much-information-to-make-a-decision/64103/8 "2015-04-03T01:15:14Z")
I’ve received my order today and received P79 instead of P95 (Free gift). Let the fun begin. I want to start some experiments, but as a newbie I don’t know what to do, neither how to do it. I’m planning to go to the mall today to buy some new clothes, may be to a coffee shop after that and to a bar (alone) in the evening. I’m going to a bar with a friend and some of his friends, that I’ve never met, on saturday. What would you do as experiment in this 4 situations if you were a total newbie and had the same products that I have? That would be a good starting point for me. Thank you