# Love letter sprayed with a pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 5, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689 "2008-03-05T01:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/21 "2008-03-05T05:03:05Z")
Lawrence, I think that might work. The pheromones you had on it would probably effect her more emotionally, thus placing a stronger memory on your number. But if you were to use a pheromone that didn’t have much scent to it, then she might not be able to smell it unless she places it up close in a crowded bar. So you would need a scent to draw her into it. As suggested above Ammo will probably do the trick. I think the most flexible, and a possibly more effective solution is to spray whatever cologne/smell that you want her to associate the memory of you with. Then, over the cologne, spray whatever pheromone mix you want. You could use different mixes to effect the recipient in certain manners. A letter sprayed with TAA will be very different than a letter sprayed with lots and lots of pure -none. Baldman, you experienced first hand how powerful the associate between smell and memory is. So, rather than trying to strengthen an already strong association, strengthen the memory of the event instead. At the same time, give the recipient a distinct smell to associate the memory with. Ammo is probably the easiest way to do that. But it’s limited in utility. What if you want to expose the recipient a -none free mix. More importantly, what if you want the recipient to associate the memory with your signature scent? If Ammo’s yours then great. But some might prefer a different scent. Also, as I said above, different pheromones would result in different impressions. Let’s say you were a boxer, I guess you could send a letter or whatever and put some dark smelling cologne on it with lots of -none for intimidation. That could possibly intimidate him slightly, maybe just makes him really angry, I dunno. But either way, it would be tied to the smell and if you were to wear that same scent during the fight, perhaps it would invoke a similar reaction. Anyways, I think it could be kind of fun if you really got into it. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/22 "2008-03-05T06:05:37Z")
> [@Lawrence084](#): > > _ **Has anyone ever tried writing a girl a love letter and spraying the envelope with one of the products to see what would happen?** _ > _ **Might actually be an awesome effect…depending on how sensitive the letter was.** _ Hi Lawrence! Sure go ahead do it, can’t hurt. But you _know_ that _a piece of paper sprayed with pheromones is not going to get you a date_, right? > [@Lawrence084](#): > > _ **I was thinking I wanted to give this girl who happen to be a bartender at a very popular bar a peice of paper with my number on it and hand it to her at the same time saying something witty to her. I was just thinking, maybe a little spray might keep her from throwing it a way with the rest of the numbers she probably get** _ Doing _that_ immediately qualifies you as ‘everybody else’. > [@Lawrence084](#): > > _ **The time to even chat just isn’t there because of the number of people waiting for drinks.** _ She doesn’t have time to talk to anybody when she’s busy. I don’t care who you are. I know because I’ve been on both sides of this fence. When I was _really_ interested in getting to know a bartender and I don’t know if you’re really interested in _knowing_ her…this is what _I’d_ do … I’d try come in _before_ it gets busy, so if she’s interested you’ll get a better indication of how to proceed. She may take your number or even give you hers. But if you’re a player who comes in to just pickup women, maybe not, unless she happens to like players…who knows? You might get lucky either way…and be sure to wear a little AMMO. 😃 > [@Eslite119](#): > > _ **Interesting. Little off topic** _ Sometimes ya just gotta go off topic!..a lot off topic. 😃 > [@Baller21](#): > > _ **love letters are for sorry guys…** _ What does that mean? Btw, interesting name. > [@Lawrence084](#): > > _ **A letter is a lot powerful than you think.** _ Yes, it does require thought, quite a bit… > [@Lawrence084](#): > > _ **Try doing something the old fashion way with a fountain pen and peice of paper. You’ll get a lot further than any pheromone would produce.** _ 😉 > [@Lawrence084](#): > > _ **The days of clubbin a woman over the head and dragging in to your cave are over.** _ The pen is always mightier than the club…and who says ‘cavemen’ can’t be erudite? > [@Lawrence084](#): > > _ **Though I wish they come back.** _ Honey, they never left… > [@Baller21](#): > > _ **why would i need to pay 100$ for dinner?? stop trying to shower girls with gifts and buy and pay for expensive things.** _\*\*\* Forget the triditional nice dinner, and movie crap. every other guy have allready tried this, and you don’t want to be like every other guy. \*\*\* Also, interesting philosophy…how does that work for you? > [@Baller21](#): > > _ **I saw a friend write a love letter recently, he used the most bueatiful words that you can discribe a women, but yet he got totally rejected. You are the prize, not the women. Stop chasing, and let them chase you.** _ Speaking of the right kind of thought…your friend failed for two reasons. One, he was solely focused on his ‘goal’. I wonder if _she_ even fiqured into the equation. Which brings me to my second point. _He wasn’t paying attention, why?…s_ee reason One. If he was, at all, tuned in _maybe_ he would’ve realized _she just wasn’t into him._ If she’s not already into him.. well…it wouldn’t be a _thinking_ man’s move. Oh, the last part?..you can sit down…you won’t have to worry about running any marathons. > [@Lawrence084](#): > > Thanks you…someone got my point. _ **Try it when you know you homework is not “A” material.** _ (ha) It _better_ be ‘A’ material _before you deliever_…and spelling counts. Earlier tonight I sprayed on MX135, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)/2X and, of course Instant Honesty/2x…see what Instant honesty can do?..well, I only _partly_ blame the Instant Honesty. LOL Oh…and Lawrence…Reps! Nice to meet a thinking man. 😉 Bella > [@renny](#): > > Reps for this post Lawrence. _ **Pick up is all well and good. What’s the point though if you can’t romance the girl after you get her** _.\*\* Another thinking man it’s been _my pleasure_ to meet. 🙂 🆒 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lawrence084](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7bcc69/32.png) [@Lawrence084](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lawrence084)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/23 "2008-03-05T06:26:39Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > Lawrence, I think that might work. The pheromones you had on it would probably effect her more emotionally, thus placing a stronger memory on your number. But if you were to use a pheromone that didn’t have much scent to it, then she might not be able to smell it unless she places it up close in a crowded bar. So you would need a scent to draw her into it. As suggested above Ammo will probably do the trick. > > I think the most flexible, and a possibly more effective solution is to spray whatever cologne/smell that you want her to associate the memory of you with. Then, over the cologne, spray whatever pheromone mix you want. You could use different mixes to effect the recipient in certain manners. A letter sprayed with TAA will be very different than a letter sprayed with lots and lots of pure -none. > > Baldman, you experienced first hand how powerful the associate between smell and memory is. > > So, rather than trying to strengthen an already strong association, strengthen the memory of the event instead. At the same time, give the recipient a distinct smell to associate the memory with. > > Ammo is probably the easiest way to do that. But it’s limited in utility. What if you want to expose the recipient a -none free mix. More importantly, what if you want the recipient to associate the memory with your signature scent? If Ammo’s yours then great. But some might prefer a different scent. > > Also, as I said above, different pheromones would result in different impressions. Let’s say you were a boxer, I guess you could send a letter or whatever and put some dark smelling cologne on it with lots of -none for intimidation. That could possibly intimidate him slightly, maybe just makes him really angry, I dunno. But either way, it would be tied to the smell and if you were to wear that same scent during the fight, perhaps it would invoke a similar reaction. > > Anyways, I think it could be kind of fun if you really got into it. Thanks for your reply… I actually thought of of other ways that could be interesting. Like leaving a note on someone desk writing something witty and cute and saying the person who wrote this is wearing this fragrance. Spraying [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) on a napkin with your phone number on it so the waitress will get it after she done serving you and the whole time you wearing Ammo. I bet your chances of getting a call would increase. Just some things that may or may not work… ---
**Author:** ![Baller21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baller21/32/1988_2.png) [@Baller21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baller21)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/24 "2008-03-05T06:29:36Z")
for bella, A. it means it only works on movies and stuff. B. It works great. It seperates me from all the other guys that want to shower a girl with gifts, ect. You look like your trying to buy her affection, and it makes you look desperate. And The triditional move, and dinner thing is lame. I’ve seen too many people do that for some reason, how original… C. He failed b/c he looked desperate. He would shower her with gifts, tell her how he feels, be a shoulder to cry on. In the real world, unfoutunatly nice guys finish last. He landed in the let’s just be friends zone. I feel sorry for the guy, but winners win, and losers lose, either you got it or you don’t. He didn’t have it… Hope you don’t find me offencive, but i’m just trying to share my thoughts. Feel free to tell me what you think. ---
**Author:** ![Lawrence084](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7bcc69/32.png) [@Lawrence084](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lawrence084)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/25 "2008-03-05T06:29:51Z")
> [@](#): > > She doesn’t have time to talk to anybody when she’s busy. I don’t care who you are. I know because I’ve been on both sides of this fence. > When I was _really_ interested in getting to know a bartender and I don’t know if you’re really interested in _knowing_ her…this is what _I’d_ do … > I’d try come in _before_ it gets busy, so if she’s interested you’ll get a better indication of how to proceed. She may take your number or even give you hers. But if you’re a player who comes in to just pickup women, maybe not, unless she happens to like players…who knows? You might get lucky either way…and be sure to wear a little [AMMO](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). 😃 I hear you and it a good point. In this case it an after work club so me geting there early means taking time from work or stay til 3am when the place slow down. I guess if there is a will there is a way… ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/26 "2008-03-05T09:32:46Z")
> [@Baller21](#): > > _ **for bella,Hope you don’t find me offencive, but i’m just trying to share my thoughts. Feel free to tell me what you think.** _ No, I don’t find you offensive, Baller. 🙂 We’re all free to speak/share our opinions here…that’s what makes this a such a great forum!..we’re all friends here! It’s all good…no worries. 😉 > [@Baller21](#): > > for bella, > A. it means it only works on movies and stuff. > B. _ **It works great. It seperates me from all the other guys that want to shower a girl with gifts, ect** _. You look like your trying to buy her affection, and it makes you look desperate. _ **And The triditional move, and dinner thing is lame. I’ve seen too many people do that for some reason, how original…** _ I hope it does work great for you. I know it certainly seperates you from the other guys. And the traditional dinner thing? Well traditionally, girls like to eat…for some reason. Any girls here who don’t like dinner?..and gifts?..who said anything about a shower? > [@Baller21](#): > > _ **He failed b/c he looked desperate. He would shower her with gifts, tell her how he feels, be a shoulder to cry on. In the real world, unfoutunatly nice guys finish last. He landed in the let’s just be friends zone.** _ > [@Baller21](#): > > _ **I feel sorry for the guy, but winners win, and losers lose, either you got it or you don’t. He didn’t have it…** _ Desperation is never good. But he failed _because_ _ **SHE WASN"T INTO HIM!** _ I don’t care who you are…or what you do…you don’t have the ‘trick’ in your bag to get her… _if she’s not into you._ _That’s_ why your friend ‘didn’t have it’. _That’s_ why he landed in “the let’s be friends zone”. And ‘nice guys’ _do not_ finish last…guys who don’t use their heads finish last. _Somebody_ help me here? 🙄 Guys who don’t got it _can_ get it, _if_ they pay attention the right way. If you want to succeed, sometimes you have to step out of your comfort zone. That means you need to find out what you’re lacking, whatever it is, and fill the void in order to achieve your goals. It’s being able to see what you _really_ want and then finding out how to go about getting what it takes to achieve it. It means working on yourself…and that don’t come easy. It’s only the brave who dare tread there. That’s territory for those who hunger to succeed…“in the real world”. It’s kinda like learning to “come out of your shell”. 🆒 Like I have time to write in my journal… Bella ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/27 "2008-03-05T09:41:55Z")
> [@Lawrence084](#): > > Thanks for your reply… > > I actually thought of of other ways that could be interesting. Like leaving a note on someone desk writing something witty and cute and saying the person who wrote this is wearing this fragrance. > > Spraying Ammo on a napkin with your phone number on it so the waitress will get it after she done serving you and the whole time you wearing Ammo. I bet your chances of getting a call would increase. > > Just some things that may or may not work… Yea, definitely. The Ammo situation would probably work well. She would be exposed to the pheromones for quite some time, hopefully with a strong positive reaction, and tie the scent of Ammo along with it. Then from that point, it would mostly be the smell of ammo left on the napkin that would recall the memories. Unless it was relatively soon after, in which case the additional effects of the pheromones will only intensify the memories. ---
**Author:** ![malleus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malleus/32/1722_2.png) [@malleus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malleus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/28 "2008-03-05T11:56:21Z")
Any guy that’s never written a love letter–or worse yet, criticizes other guys for writing them–needs to do some serious self-examination. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/29 "2008-03-05T15:26:54Z")
Do you have any oil based pheromones? They can last a really long time. I know they do on clothes, scarves etc. I am talking weeks if not washed. A314 at low doses can be very romantic. Anything with Akuto scent (Chemical Romance series, MX113 etc. - very likeable by women, smell wise as well as pheromone wise) also sticks for a long time, Ammo not so much. I say, if nothing else, just go with A314, it says all the right things about a man!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/30 "2008-03-05T15:37:38Z")
> [@malleus](#): > > Any guy that’s never written a love letter–or worse yet, criticizes other guys for writing them–needs to do some serious self-examination. All the girls I have been in deep relationships with loved getting letters from me, handwritten (man the pain that was!) and sometimes sprayed with my aftershave which I used to wear. I think its nice and sweet, and it shows you care enough about them to write something down on paper. My handwritten ones were rare enough so they didn’t become common place! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/31 "2008-03-05T18:48:37Z")
Ah, one of my favorite topics. The pheromone-sprayed love letter. Do it. Even if the psychological benefit is all your own. 😃 And here’s another “novel\*” thought. —Lawrence, I’m taking your lead here with the Romance Novel idea Rip out a particularly sauuucy page from one of the romance novels, and send it _as_ a lovenote. Pheromone-spraying optional. \*- yes! pun intended. 😛 > [@Lawrence084](#): > > 55% of all books sold are Romance Novels. > > Guys aren’t buying these books. > > A letter is a lot powerful than you think. > > The days of clubbin a woman over the head and dragging in to your cave are over. Though I wish they come back. > > Try doing something the old fashion way with a fountain pen and peice of paper. You’ll get a lot further than any pheromone would produce. ---
**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/32 "2008-03-05T18:58:23Z")
> [@](#): > > love letters are for sorry guys…stop watching so much chick flicks. Well, it works on me, so long as the guy is actually sincere and not a jerk. Maybe your friend’s a jerk. Or the girl’s a jerk. > [@](#): > > And The triditional move, and dinner thing is lame. I’ve seen too many people do that for some reason, how original… Funny you should say that, as I don’t see too much of this old-fashioned behavior anymore, at least not in the Northeast…so when I _do_ see it, then it _does_ set you apart. I mean, if you just want sex–which is fine–then go for the Game. But if you want an LTR, the tried-and-true stuff does work. If it doesn’t work where you live, then move to NY–because we could use some more sincere, old-fashioned guys up here. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/33 "2008-03-05T19:00:12Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Do you have any oil based pheromones? They can last a really long time. I know they do on clothes, scarves etc. I am talking weeks if not washed. Aha!..I knew someone would pop outta the woodwork with another key. You can find scents in oil form as well. The combination would probably work well in terms of longevity, if nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/34 "2008-03-05T19:01:08Z")
Sorry, I quick replied in the wrong thread.. ---
**Author:** ![Lawrence084](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7bcc69/32.png) [@Lawrence084](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lawrence084)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/35 "2008-03-05T20:58:07Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Ah, one of my favorite topics. The pheromone-sprayed love letter. > > Do it. Even if the psychological benefit is all your own. 😃 > > And here’s another “novel\*” thought. —Lawrence, I’m taking your lead here with the Romance Novel idea > > Rip out a particularly sauuucy page from one of the romance novels, and send it _as_ a lovenote. Pheromone-spraying optional. > > \*- yes! pun intended. 😛 That one I haven’t thought of… One of the coolest thing I did last year was … I after talking to this girl for a week on the phone, I decided to go to the stationary store and buy an blanks wedding invitation (The card and envelope), and I turn it in to a date “First Date Invitation” for a date at Starbucks for coffee and good conversation. I just stated the time and place just like a wedding invitation… Work wonders…Especially in this day and age where no one ever receives personal letters in the mail anymore, just bills. ---
**Author:** ![Baller21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baller21/32/1988_2.png) [@Baller21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baller21)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/36 "2008-03-06T04:49:59Z")
Haha, it’s funny how everyone disagrees with me. Thats fine, i am subject to my own thoughts, and it has worked wonders for me. And just for clearing up “the game” by neil struss is not what i’m refering to. I don’t perticulary like these guys like mystery that has lame and canned materials. I’ve closly study and worked with some of the best pua’s from the paragon project. I DO NOT use this to simply toy or sleep with random girls.That is not what i do, i am very happy with my relationships, even some of the LTR. But i am young, and i got so much comeing to me, i am not really looking into geting into a very serious relationships. And my friend was not a jerk at all, it fact he is a very nice guy. He is kind, loving, soft, emotionall, all the qualities that women think they want…And the girl is a friend of mine, she is also a very nice girl. But i asked her why she rejected him. She told me she wanted him to be just friends and she was into this other guy that is not the not like the guy mentioned above. He is somewhat rude, almost jerkish guy that speaks his mind. I then asked her why, she said, “i just can’t keep him out of my minds, he just got this attrictive vibe to him” It’s sad really… But i’m not saying to the guys to be a jerk, but just be one of those guys that kiss a girls ass where ever she goes. ---
**Author:** ![northwestmichael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/northwestmichael/32/169_2.png) [@northwestmichael](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/northwestmichael)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/37 "2008-03-06T05:22:24Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > It _better_ be ‘A’ material _before you deliever_…and spelling counts. lol… love it… 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/38 "2008-03-06T06:39:25Z")
> [@renny](#): > > What’s the point though if you can’t romance the girl after you get her. Exactly. You romance her to win her, you romance her to keep her. Like the last 20 years. > [@Lawrence084](#): > > It shocked me to get repsonses about not writing “Love Letters” > > Why do they think BLOGS are so popular today? > > Why is online dating making millions? People get so addictive to recieiving emails from stranger who like them. > > Words can be powerful in attraction and seduction if you know how to use them, and they cost you nothing. Yes they can and a lot of guys under-estimate their power. > [@Bella](#): > > We’re all free to speak/share our opinions here…that’s what makes this a such a great forum!..we’re all friends here! It’s all good…no worries. Well said. One of the great things about this forum. > [@Bella](#): > > And the traditional dinner thing? Well traditionally, girls like to eat…for some reason. Any girls here who don’t like dinner?..and gifts? Hey - dinner, flowers, a movie, walk along somewhere “romantic”, maybe doing something she does not normally do - say take her to a ball game - but you gotta _tune into her_ to _know_ … that requires asking and _ **listening** _ to the answers … > [@Bella](#): > > Desperation is never good. But he failed _because_ _ **SHE WASN"T INTO HIM!** _ …you don’t have the ‘trick’ in your bag to get her… > _if she’s not into you._ _That’s_ why he landed in “the let’s be friends zone”. Sometimes it just ain’t there no matter what … > [@Bella](#): > > And ‘nice guys’ _do not_ finish last…guys who don’t use their heads finish last. _Somebody_ help me here? Exactly. I’m here girl - I’ve got your six - sorry - better late than never … > [@Bella](#): > > Guys who don’t got it _can_ get it, _if_ they pay attention the right way. If you want to succeed, sometimes you have to step out of your comfort zone. That means you need to find out what you’re lacking, whatever it is, and fill the void in order to achieve your goals. It’s being able to see what you _really_ want and then finding out how to go about getting what it takes to achieve it. It means working on yourself…and that don’t come easy. It’s only the brave who dare tread there. That’s territory for those who hunger to succeed…“in the real world”. It’s kinda like learning to “come out of your shell”. Real growth usually comes when we step out of our comfort zone and challenge ourselves. And REAL self-introspection and change is often difficult and sometimes painful. Much easier to stay the same even if it means failure. But if you combine the two: A good honest hard look at yourself, start making the changes you need to - which is almost guaranteed to take you out of your comfort zone - and see it through - then you will have something powerful. > [@Bella](#): > > Like I have time to write in my journal… You do girl, you do. I have faith in you. > [@stoiker](#): > > All the girls I have been in deep relationships with loved getting letters from me, handwritten (man the pain that was!) and sometimes sprayed with my aftershave which I used to wear. I think its nice and sweet, and it shows you care enough about them to write something down on paper. My wife and I still both have all the letters we wrote back and forth to each other through our courtship and marriage. > [@LaurieNY](#): > > Well, it works on me, so long as the guy is actually sincere and not a jerk. > > Funny you should say that, as I don’t see too much of this old-fashioned behavior anymore, at least not in the Northeast…so when I _do_ see it, then it _does_ set you apart. > > If it doesn’t work where you live, then move to NY–because we could use some more sincere, old-fashioned guys up here. See guys - you can be an alpha and still be successful with some of the “old fashioned” stuff. You just gotta be that thinking man Bella talks about - the kind that tunes into the girl he is after and figures out what kind of knight she is looking for … ---
**Author:** ![Lawrence084](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7bcc69/32.png) [@Lawrence084](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lawrence084)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/39 "2008-03-06T06:48:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Haha, it’s funny how everyone disagrees with me. Thats fine, i am subject to my own thoughts, and it has worked wonders for me. And just for clearing up “the game” by neil struss is not what i’m refering to. I don’t perticulary like these guys like mystery that has lame and canned materials. I’ve closly study and worked with some of the best pua’s from the paragon project. I DO NOT use this to simply toy or sleep with random girls.That is not what i do, i am very happy with my relationships, even some of the LTR. But i am young, and i got so much comeing to me, i am not really looking into geting into a very serious relationships. > And my friend was not a jerk at all, it fact he is a very nice guy. He is kind, loving, soft, emotionall, all the qualities that women think they want…And the girl is a friend of mine, she is also a very nice girl. But i asked her why she rejected him. She told me she wanted him to be just friends and she was into this other guy that is not the not like the guy mentioned above. He is somewhat rude, almost jerkish guy that speaks his mind. I then asked her why, she said, “i just can’t keep him out of my minds, he just got this attrictive vibe to him” It’s sad really… But i’m not saying to the guys to be a jerk, but just be one of those guys that kiss a girls ass where ever she goes. I didn’t think you were a jerk. In fact I agree with what you said if you were referring to a love letter after a few date. I was actually thinking to someone who in LTR. I hope you don’t think a love letter is silly in htat case. A love letter can be something as simple as saying…:“You look so good when I see you go off to work. I really appreiate how much effort you put in to yourself. I show and I love it.” And then spray a little AMMO on it… Thats all I meant. Plus the thread was about spraying something that was an object that already brings out an emotion…Not whether to write an Love Letter or not. I hear you and I do agree with you, if you are referring to early dating. ---
**Author:** ![incubusattacks](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/incubusattacks/32/1259_2.png) [@incubusattacks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/incubusattacks)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689/40 "2008-03-06T06:52:37Z")
> [@](#): > > See guys - you can be an alpha and still be successful with some of the “old fashioned” stuff. You just gotta be that thinking man Bella talks about - the kind that tunes into the girl he is after and figures out what kind of knight she is looking for … Wow Bosshank you never cease to amaze me. “the kind that tunes into the girl he is after and figures out what kind of knight she is looking for” That’s keeper material right there haha. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/love-letter-sprayed-with-a-pheromones/9689.md?page=3)