# LS A-none vs P75 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 28, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120 "2010-09-28T01:40:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/1 "2010-09-28T01:40:01Z")
Putative 75 Lowest range of effect – 0.5 mcgs Optimal range for me – 0.75-1.25 mcgs Point at which self effects start to become negative for me – 3.75-5 mcgs Highest range of application – 15-18 mcgs Potential OD – In a Androstenone sense certainly not. I’ve worn 10 mcgs a couple times going out and I don’t really see anyone exhibit signs of ghosting or avoidance or potential fear. I’ve had some odd reactions at those levels from women but I really can’t even delve into comprehending that. I’ve worn P75 a lot in the past but many of those times I’ve paired it with Androstenone to some degree. Lately I’ve been wearing P75 solo while having recollections of past incidences worthy of note. I’ve often had incidences where I feel much resolve seemingly(but not really) having a inner confidence and not being swayed by anything. In other words that seemingly implausible alpha male that is unscathed by any occurrence and untouchable within the realm of sensibilities. Remarkably so a decent majority of people here have claimed this to be a masculine that is the brother of Androstenone. Now I won’t deny P75 being a masculine but its route of action is essentially different. Where a signature of Androstenone or A314 can/does exhibit physiological alterations through body language, P75 engages you through your consciousness. No masculine signature I have ever worn forces me to be representative of what its projecting. With P75 though it’s a smart, amorphous little fella that works its way into what I consider the most integral aspect of ourselves that decides whether we fail or succeed in light of what we attempt to accomplish. Its our Jiminy Cricket that holds our destiny in hand with a range of being absolutely limited to being nearly limitless in what we can achieve. Like its been said before in the very simplistic sense P75 inhibits negative self talk. The feeling I get with P75 is akin to when I’ve hit a certain threshold with alcohol drinking. I’ve never truly liked alcohol because even though it relaxes me and to a certain extent makes me more laid back and free it does it to me in a very forceful way. Although my serious attitude and stiffness towards social interaction is quite lessened and dissolved I LOSE my own connection to my rich inner life. For me personally I need social interaction like I need Sunlight. Every human needs sunlight to live to satisfy some of their Vitamin D needs but relatively you only need up to maybe 20 minutes of it or so. As a introvert social excursions are draining so most of the time I live in my head. Only another introvert can truly understand what I mean and why we are like this. It isn’t to say that I stop thinking when I use P75 its just that my curiosity/creativity goes into hibernation mode. I attribute that to P75 being a “clean slate” [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) giving you the plausibility of steering the ship with no distractions whether imagined or real. At first I wanted to call it a emotional inhibitor or even better yet a consciousness inhibitor of some kind but neither are politically correct given what it does for me. Emotions can still be felt and conscious awareness of judgment or reaction is still apparent. P75 is more that of a consciousness regulator. What Im trying to say is that a evil person that doesn’t think hes doing anything wrong will ultimately be more dangerous than a person who may be evil and does evil things but knows within his own mind that hes committing evil acts. Its this dark energy and presence of apathy which P75 invokes that bridges the huge gap between evil whom believes their in the right and Evil whom knows/ acknowledges their doing wrong. At my overdose range (10+ mcgs) I become very Neanderthal like. My eyes become my absolute main sense of analyzing and discerning information as my eyes darted around in anticipation very frequently. My alertness level was considerably high (I was driving a lot during these OD apps and was totally focused on all the traffic around me even while at a red light). I wonder if this is how a primordial homosapien felt during those times. The fact of the matter is that I’m an avid over thinker who actually talks to himself and gives himself feedback and when I wear P75 at a certain mcg level it just all stops. I realize now why I loved P75 earlier in the year. It allowed me to hide from my pain, anxiety, and insecurities but the caveat to that was I hid from my own self as a result. I get rid of the bad stuff but as a result I dismiss my personality and all the quirks I love about myself. This correlates to this excerpt from Tacitus this is funny but it happens… we discussed years ago… your limbic mind is imagining that there is some huge aggressive uber dude lurking around… even though the mones are on your body, your brainstem doesn’t know that, only your prefrontal cortex does… the mones have bypassed your conscious outer layers of mental functioning ( P75 is pretty wicked stuff… I’ve found that tiny qtys. are more than adequate)… you’re transported back to cave man days… it’s like your cave man mind came home and found somebody had just taken a 30 lb. dump next to your sleep shelf… Some people say that P75 is an attractant of sorts. I’ve experienced some degree of attraction with P75 but I don’t completely agree that its actual attractant by nature. To me it acts as a precursor that in a sense “firms” you up making you more desirable as a result. The only way I can explain what I just said is that I used to love picking mangoes off my 3-4 huge trees in Miami as a child. Finding one that was a larger than average was always a great find although there was always a particular mango I loved to find. It was the mango where the hues of red/yellow/orange was just perfect and there were no black spot imperfections or parts eaten by insects/flys/birds. These weren’t impossible to find but quite rare. You could say that I could’ve picked the larger mangos early and let them ripe within the protection of my home but they don’t ripen the same way as you can tell with mangos picked too early when you see them sold during off season periods. People say that P75 makes them aggressive. In all my uses of P75 solo whether in low amounts or higher amounts I don’t discern any amount of aggression in my demeanor whether acknowledged or not. The feeling is nothing like when I use –none. Aggression exhibited from androstenone can be tamed and kept under control through self discipline and using buffers even when using high quantities of it. I can’t explain why sometimes I have “perceived intimidation” from others with P75 but even that hasn’t been consistent with my results and when I have gone a lot higher and been around a different crowd of people noone seems to be bowing down to my social power like when I wear androstenone based mixes. Dominance compliance is a no go with P75 because its obvious that P75 is great a wingman but he’ll never be the leader of the pack. AndrostAnone This molecule has always been famously elusive considering it shares all the letters of the probably the most conveted phero of all yet spanning all the way back many years theres not much relevant info on it coming from anyone in the form of reports/results/conjecture. Dosage range I’ve used – 2.5-15 mcgs Optimal range in past experience – 6.5-7.5 mcgs Potentiality for Overdose – I’ve tried it at 15 mcgs in two runs and 10 mcgs in 6 other runs and haven’t experienced any problems doing so. I’ve even had multiple respraying throughout the day on several occasions and no problems there either. Androstanone in my uses of it has a fairly strong masculinity. It lends to my sense of well-being and my masculinity seems incorrigible (this isn’t to say A-none gives me confidence its more to say that normally I’m not comfortable in my own masculinity and this helps me maintain a firm stance as a man) over my duration of use. I’ve gotten attention from a good amount of ladies and had some subtle flirting from girls without any coaxing on my part. Theres also a degree of comfort that comes with wearing A-none but only affects women from what I’ve seen. It has no apparent aggression from what I’ve grasped although it affords a decent degree of respect from other men without demanding dominance compliance. Its odd but I’ve quite a few isolated incidences where men would greet me on the street and I’ve had women in certain instances trying to help me out to make things go smoother. The positive results I get from women are not so in your face like with androstenone but it certainly leveled the demographic quite a bit (instead of getting a couple strong hits I get a fair amount more of softer hits). All in all I’m in a good mood while using A-none as it brightens me a little and I’m not so reserved about sharing a smile with a lovely looking women. (all women are lovely in their own way no matter what age they are) Reading a short post from user Gone with the Wind has stated that A-none is comforting without any intimidation. He also said that it has similarities with Androsterone and A-1. I find all of this true although the comfort aspect IMO is noone near as strong as A-1 at the right doses but does not cause any ill effect on men, which is something I really admire. It is reminiscent of Rone although I’ve never been able to wear rone by itself with good results as it needs to be a part of a ensemble of mones to make it shine in my experience. I’ve intentionally OD’ed on androstenone with doses of 15-20 mcgs unbuffered applied to neck and under my nose. I applied 7.5 mcgs of A-none later on and it dialed back the negative aggression I was feeling immensely. I really do love this as a standalone but I can’t wait to start mixing with it. Conclusion: P75 and A-none are completely different animals. Optimal dosage for both of these are worlds apart (In my case about 1 mcg for P75 and 6.5-7.5 for A-none) and so far up to 15 mcgs of A-none virtually no OD so far and if there is a OD level I wouldn’t be surprised if it was in the mid 20’s while I start to get negative feedback from P75 around 7-8 mcgs. Main self effect of P75 is a consciousness regulator (It doesn’t promote or negate positive or negative thoughts it’s a neutron, it’s a astral plain between heaven and hell, figure of speech but you get the picture). That is what I learned from high doses of P75. A-none is a masculine absent of aggression yet lacks that sexual undercurrent. It can potentially attract women’s attention and comfort them at the same time and is also reminiscent of the accommodations people afford you when wearing A314. I won’t go and call A-none a masculine social hybrid but some subtle qualities of A-none that I haven’t discerned yet give that impression. P75 is great as an additive but I will dial back my usage from now on. I even have a batch of P75 oil laced with EoW that I was using for a while. I gave some to Radman but I doubt he ever intends to touch it. Anone is not the be all end all masculine but I think it will be a great alternative to androstenone for me. If you’re a fan of the constant sexual tension that Enone provides A-none is probably not for you. I wrote this simply to point out the obvious error I’ve seen on the forum as of late. A lot of people have been referring to Putative 75 as AndrostAnone. The only real problem I find with that conjecture is that most of these users have never even used an A-none based product. How would they know what A-none’s effects are if they’ve never even knowingly used it themselves before. A lot of people have read and speculated but that seems to be all there is on P75 being A-none. Jasmin has also said in another post that P75 is not A-none. Since I expect people to question my source of A-none I will say this. A senior member on Pherotalk has confirmed that the A-none chemset from LS is the real deal the provider being Phil Stone himself. Sorry for the book. I’m sure a lot of people will be deterred by my huge run on paragraphs haha. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/2 "2010-09-28T01:44:25Z")
Nomination worthy. GREAT observations and testing. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/3 "2010-09-28T02:41:38Z")
I cannot even begin to tell you how detailed and great this reporting is. I just read over this again and I picked up on more and more. Can’t wait to test this out myself ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/4 "2010-09-28T02:53:31Z")
Lot of work you´ve done here and this must be appreciated ! Ahmm nominated ! maybe you still have some Anone sitting around to crosstest it with P76 which should be close related to [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and what do you think about P80 in realation to Anone .. Pago ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/5 "2010-09-28T07:17:31Z")
Very nice write up…thanks… I have been testing [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) this last week and so far I’m liking it. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 8:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/6 "2010-09-28T08:47:44Z")
I’ve been using Stone labs androstanone for a few years now. Went through a couple bottles. A very useful mone for mixing–especially with androstenone–and surprising as a standalone (although at its best in a thoughtful mix). I recall a couple years back when I wrote about androstanone on this board I was dogged for it and told it was bogus. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/7 "2010-09-28T11:59:45Z")
Awesome report. I’m happy that I’ll be able to do more testing with [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) without bias… Still can’t wait to try the straight anone though… once I get a few more things tested I’ll be jumping on this one! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/8 "2010-09-28T13:57:40Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I’ve been using Stone labs androstanone for a few years now. Went through a couple bottles. A very useful mone for mixing–especially with androstenone–and surprising as a standalone (although at its best in a thoughtful mix). I recall a couple years back when I wrote about androstanone on this board I was dogged for it and told it was bogus. Hey Gegogi, What were your results like? I was going through some old posts back in the day and I saw you used it. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/9 "2010-09-28T15:20:02Z")
This is a terrific report. i guess I will have to get some androstanone at some pointto test. Going back to [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) you reminded me of some things that I left out when reporting. I went all the way up to 7.5mcg and decided not to test any further. I didn’t feel comfortable with it at that level. What I noticed was the consistent alertness. Kind of what you feel when your “fight or flight” response has kicked in. At 2.5mcg I feel like I’m on the 500M line of the rifle range taking confident shots. I can lock onto target easily and do a lot of scanning for the next target. However at 7.5mcg I feel more like I just walked into a dark back alley and I’m ready to deal with whatever situation may arise. Not really fearful, but very wary. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/10 "2010-09-28T18:19:19Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > I wrote this simply to point out the obvious error I’ve seen on the forum as of late. A lot of people have been referring to Putative 75 as AndrostAnone. The only real problem I find with that conjecture is that most of these users have never even used an A-none based product. How would they know what A-none’s effects are if they’ve never even knowingly used it themselves before. A lot of people have read and speculated but that seems to be all there is on P75 being A-none. Jasmin has also said in another post that P75 is not A-none. Since I expect people to question my source of A-none I will say this. A senior member on Pherotalk has confirmed that the A-none chemset from LS is the real deal the provider being Phil Stone himself. > > Sorry for the book. I’m sure a lot of people will be deterred by my huge run on paragraphs haha. Perhaps the “obvious error” is more of a personal bias to be right than actually being right. I have to admit I take exception to this statement that essentially you are saying some long time testers like myself, and others I will not name, but exceptional testers all the same, are wrong and we never actually did any research! That’s a rather disingenuous statement not even knowing what we have and have not tested. Unfortunately androtics has a habit of saying that pretty much all competition is “black hat” or evil which, regardless if its a strategy to alienate and ostracize for business purposes is true or not ([Phil Stone included](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/30)), prevents many members that have tested that molecule from sharing our research here. A few of us have an extensive private database on every molecule androtics and many other companies sell, but do not share because of the limitations on who we can talk about here without repercussions. We respect Androtics enough to value their business model and will not divulge this information. Jasmin has said a lot of molecules are not this or that, but please keep in mind she has a business to run. Regardless of whether anyone wants to believe it or not androtics is in the business of making money. I work for androtics to make money. So does Mickaelia, Ben, Jacob… There is nothing wrong with making money either. Lets take [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) for instance in relation to Jasmin’s posts (linked below) about how the P series are all pretty much unique. After much acclaim on the forum, the more I used it the more I did not like it. After extensive testing I did a post in my journal with some personal observations: [The Path of the Righteous Man - #53 by SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-path-of-the-righteous-man/38445/53) My theorem is that MX297 is P91 heavy and that TAL and P90 all remind me of similar results. I also get a weak beta boy vibe from the A314 P90 special edition. I don’t believe in neutering ones self thus fooling myself into believing that because women are paying more attention to me leads to sex. In fact, I very much believe that it’s a wonderful way for men to suddenly discover just how to not sexually attract females. I didn’t have to tell anyone that, but I always believed sharing my experiences on the forum is good for others to research. Well very surprising to me soon afterward Jasmin decided to post this [Rough synthesis vs. "perfect" - P88 vs. P93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rough-synthesis-vs-perfect-p88-vs-p93/40741) > [@](#): > > While the bulk of the chemicals in our P line are absolutely unique structures, sometimes we do have two different synthesis paths of what _should_ technically be “the same” molecule I found the timing of the post to be remarkably coincidental when here I am just days before stating something vastly different. Do I believe that this is to mislead, a conspiracy, or some type of ill-intent? Categorically NO! This is a business and a business must do what it needs to do to continue doing business. It’s the very reason androtics does not name their molecules, but keeps them a secret. It eliminates any competition and as researchers there is not a thing you can do with the molecules except continue to buy them from Anrotics because you like them. Again, I see nothing wrong with that. As mentioned I have an extensive database started with Dancing Joker that we are systematically testing every known molecule and then cross checking against other suppliers same named molecules. We have found a vast difference in some molecules with the same names from different suppliers. Quality issues, mostly from China, and some results that are just baffling to us. What’s more interesting, we have also drawn some most interesting conclusions on what some putatives are. All the same that does not mean that because we have tested something do I go and say a vast majority of other researchers are wrong. Out of respect for androtics that information will stay private and confidential between all the people involved in the project. So yes, I take exception not to your statement that those of us who have tested it and come to different conclusions are wrong, but because you are accusing many of us of not testing at all. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/11 "2010-09-28T18:40:56Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Perhaps the “obvious error” is more of a personal bias to be right than actually being right. I have to admit I take exception to this statement that essentially you are saying some long time testers like myself, and others I will not name, but exceptional testers all the same, are wrong and we never actually did any research! That’s a rather disingenuous statement not even knowing what we have and have not tested. > > Unfortunately androtics has a habit of saying that pretty much all competition is “black hat” or evil which, regardless if its a strategy to alienate and ostracize for business purposes is true or not ([Phil Stone included](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/30)), prevents many members that have tested that molecule from sharing our research here. A few of us have an extensive private database on every molecule androtics and many other companies sell, but do not share because of the limitations on who we can talk about here without repercussions. We respect Androtics enough to value their business model and will not divulge this information. > > Jasmin has said a lot of molecules are not this or that, but please keep in mind she has a business to run. Regardless of whether anyone wants to believe it or not androtics is in the business of making money. I work for androtics to make money. So does Mickaelia, Ben, Jacob… There is nothing wrong with making money either. > > Lets take MX297 for instance in relation to Jasmin’s posts (linked below) about how the P series are all pretty much unique. After much acclaim on the forum, the more I used it the more I did not like it. After extensive testing I did a post in my journal with some personal observations: [The Path of the Righteous Man - #53 by SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-path-of-the-righteous-man/38445/53) My theorem is that MX297 is P91 heavy and that TAL and P90 all remind me of similar results. I also get a weak beta boy vibe from the A314 P90 special edition. I don’t believe in neutering ones self thus fooling myself into believing that because women are paying more attention to me leads to sex. In fact, I very much believe that it’s a wonderful way for men to suddenly discover just how to not sexually attract females. > > I didn’t have to tell anyone that, but I always believed sharing my experiences on the forum is good for others to research. Well very surprising to me soon afterward Jasmin decided to post this [Rough synthesis vs. "perfect" - P88 vs. P93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rough-synthesis-vs-perfect-p88-vs-p93/40741) > > I found the timing of the post to be remarkably coincidental when here I am just days before stating something vastly different. Do I believe that this is to mislead, a conspiracy, or some type of ill-intent? Categorically NO! This is a business and a business must do what it needs to do to continue doing business. It’s the very reason androtics does not name their molecules, but keeps them a secret. It eliminates any competition and as researchers there is not a thing you can do with the molecules except continue to buy them from Anrotics because you like them. Again, I see nothing wrong with that. > > As mentioned I have an extensive database started with Dancing Joker that we are systematically testing every known molecule and then cross checking against other suppliers same named molecules. We have found a vast difference in some molecules with the same names from different suppliers. Quality issues, mostly from China, and some results that are just baffling to us. What’s more interesting, we have also drawn some most interesting conclusions on what some putatives are. All the same that does not mean that because we have tested something do I go and say a vast majority of other researchers are wrong. Out of respect for androtics that information will stay private and confidential between all the people involved in the project. > > So yes, I take exception not to your statement that those of us who have tested it and come to different conclusions are wrong, but because you are accusing many of us of not testing at all. By being general and non-specific I can understand where you’re coming from Steve. As you know, I respect and value your opinion when it comes down to the molecules. But from the conversations that I’ve had with Olfact, I don’t think that he was directing it towards the quality and thorough testers out here in the forum. I do not speak for him but from what I got from our conversations, I believe that I fell into the category of just taking [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) like -ANONE based solely on the word of others and subsequently giving out advice to others based on what I was told like many of the users here. I’m Guilty as charged and I hope that his research and words aren’t misconstruted as something else. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/12 "2010-09-28T22:11:56Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > By being general and non-specific I can understand where you’re coming from Steve. As you know, I respect and value your opinion when it comes down to the molecules. But from the conversations that I’ve had with Olfact, I don’t think that he was directing it towards the quality and thorough testers out here in the forum. I do not speak for him but from what I got from our conversations, I believe that I fell into the category of just taking P75 like -ANONE based solely on the word of others and subsequently giving out advice to others based on what I was told like many of the users here. I’m Guilty as charged and I hope that his research and words aren’t misconstruted as something else. I believe with all my heart that Olfact’s post was not intended to be a slight, nor do I believe it was directed towards me or my mentor Dancing Joker (yes I have a mentor who continues to school me in pheromone usage). I also believe that your statement, below as quoted, rings true for many, many users on the forum: > [@](#): > > I believe that I fell into the category of just taking P75 like -ANONE based solely on the word of others and subsequently giving out advice to others based on what I was told like many of the users here. While in some way I do object to members jumping on the bandwagon without research, I can say that most members help others simply out of good intent. Therefore this is the reason I chose to post my rebut to Olfact. I did it as bluntly as he did it to drive the point home how words can be construed. Lately I’ve read a bunch of posts with members attacking other members. name calling, just bad vibes abound. This is not the same forum that most of us have come to love. I’m sad to see it with so much of its luster wiped away. So what changed? I have my opinions but I’ll just hold onto those. Personally I think Olfacts post is brilliant and deserving of TOTW and why I voted for it. I posted for effect, not because I disagree about P75 and A-none, which I do, but because I wanted to remind everyone that words can sting or lift. Please chose to lift 😛 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/13 "2010-09-28T22:28:29Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I believe with all my heart that Olfact’s post was not intended to be a slight, nor do I believe it was directed towards me or my mentor Dancing Joker (yes I have a mentor who continues to school me in pheromone usage). I also believe that your statement, below as quoted, rings true for many, many users on the forum: > > While in some way I do object to members jumping on the bandwagon without research, I can say that most members help others simply out of good intent. > > Therefore this is the reason I chose to post my rebut to Olfact. I did it as bluntly as he did it to drive the point home how words can be construed. Lately I’ve read a bunch of posts with members attacking other members. name calling, just bad vibes abound. This is not the same forum that most of us have come to love. I’m sad to see it with so much of its luster wiped away. So what changed? I have my opinions but I’ll just hold onto those. > > Personally I think Olfacts post is brilliant and deserving of TOTW and why I voted for it. I posted for effect, not because I disagree about P75 and A-none, which I do, but because I wanted to remind everyone that words can sting or lift. Please chose to lift 😛 Thanks Steve for the reminder. I’ve fallen party to that as well and for that I’m sorry to the forum. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/14 "2010-09-28T22:51:45Z")
I am more interested in someone comparing AndrostAnone to [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) if anything. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/15 "2010-09-29T11:33:07Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Lately I’ve read a bunch of posts with members attacking other members. name calling, just bad vibes abound. This is not the same forum that most of us have come to love. I’m sad to see it with so much of its luster wiped away. So what changed? I have my opinions but I’ll just hold onto those. I totally agree. There seems to be a different mood around here, like a new generation took hold of it and changed it. I’d only been here a year but it seems like there was less complaining and bad attitude when I first started here. This is still the best forum I’ve been on, and for the most part things are still good here, but something has been lost. I don’t even think it’s a name calling type attitude, but more of a general cockiness that has gone up. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ls-a-none-vs-p75/42120/16 "2010-09-29T17:41:43Z")
> [@empath](#): > > I totally agree. > There seems to be a different mood around here, like a new generation took hold of it and changed it. I’d only been here a year but it seems like there was less complaining and bad attitude when I first started here. This is still the best forum I’ve been on, and for the most part things are still good here, but something has been lost. I don’t even think it’s a name calling type attitude, but more of a general cockiness that has gone up. Seconded, can’t we all just get along and get help each other get laid 😃