# Mad Science with Noble Intentions **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [October 14, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282 "2009-10-14T04:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/1 "2009-10-14T04:26:35Z")
Noble Science Hello there, my name is Noble. Yes, its a nick name, but its what most people call me because its the english translation of my real name. Anyways, my goal is to write journal that could aid some, if not all, of those hormonally inraged teenaged guys out there. I’m 17, so I think it would be safe to say my results will be accurate +/- 1 year. I was just introduced to Pheros recently, so this will be as much a learning experience for me as anyone. Since I’m a little low on $$ I and I can’t start experimenting just yet, I think I’ll just give a little background on myself and the enviornment I’m normally in. I’m a little bit goofy. Just a bit… but I’m also very social by nature and never afraid to meet people, or atleast make myself known to them, whether they like it or not (I’m sorry, but I don’t think this journal will help shy guys very much). I’m a very touchy kind of guy. I don’t have a personal bubble, and I’ve been hit and punched more than once for the reason of personal space invasion of others. I’m not the most attractive guy, but I know how to be polite, and tell people what they want to hear, which can get you far in life. Some girls, a few, say that I have an intelligent charm, like a young med-student, which I guess is a good thing, but not a lot of girls look for intelligent charm in a guy right off the bat. I know Pheros won’t make me automatically a chick magnet without a little work, and I’m cool with that. I always put in that work, I just need a bit of an umph. I’m friends with about everyone in my grade level. I’ve even been told on multiple occasions that I have ‘too many’ friend. But I’m sort of a ‘Jack of all Trades and Master of None’ in the sense that I know a lot of people, but am only close to a few. I’m not part of the ‘popular’ crowd either, but I have a few ins there aswell. Fortunately, those few that I am close to are a group of the party-types. Theres about 7 of us regulars, and someone always brings a couple of others we don’t know to come party or just chill. One of my best friends, R, will probably come up a lot in this journal. R is always introducing me to new lady friends, and their friends, so I’ll usually have a fair amount of opportunities for testing. Apart from R’s friends, which are usually complete strangers to me, there are a few girls around my school that I know well enough for hugs and moderate conversation who I will be testing with as well, in hopes of moving from better-than-acquaintances, to friends, to close friends. Most of my testing during school will either be before class, or during lunch, as we have free-roaming lunch at my school, lots of opportunities to mingle with different crowds. The classes I’d most likely test in are: Art (which is very free-roam), Human Geography (push-over teacher (but I still love her :-p ) a mix of a lot of grade levels. I kind of run the class, atleast in the sense that the underclassmen respect me.), And possibly my Philosophy class (A lot of open class discussion, and something like a 3.5:1 Girl to Guy ratio) As a side note, me being a senior and having a class with a lot of underclassmen. It might just be me, but the incoming freshman class always seems to have more hot girls and insecure boys than the previous. Funny little tid-bit of info. Its getting late and I gotta prepare for school tomorrow, so I’ll wrap this journal up with some posts of useful information I’ve been collecting. Summary of info provided by Snoopyace > [@Zansteps](#): > > Just as clarification: > > IShine + CTTM2 + IG = Good for teen girl attention > > IO + IG = Balance for Attention and approachability > > IShine =/= IO and IG; because IShine is more of a ‘just have fun’ sort of thing. > > AMMO = versitile > TUTH = (sexual) situation specific In response to my greeting post. > [@jamesbonded](#): > > AMMO is a god choice for you but it is out of stock. It can make girls attracted to you and it can help you to break away from friend zone. > > A314 is a bit strong for your age. Another alternative is IG. It has the same effect as A314 but a bit friendlier. IG can make girls think you are the man. They will think you are capable, trusted and respect. > Good luck Question about ODing > [@jamesbonded](#): > > Different people have different number of spray to get OD. To avoid OD, you got to try the pheromones one at a time. Start from 1 spray for a few days and observe the result. Then increase to 2 and do the same until you get your sweet spot. Common Phero types > [@peregrine](#): > > (from L-S) > -nol (or aNOL) = Androstenol (very slight or no odor, “friendly pheromone”) > -none (or aNONE) = androstenone (stinky, “alpha male”) > -rone (or aRONE) = androsterone (slight musk odor, may make other pheros work better) > These are considered your main 3 pheromones. Composition of IS, IG, and IO > [@BLADE](#): > > Instant Shine is predominantly a molecule nicknamed TAA. > Instant Gentleman is predominantly A’Rone. > Instant Openness is about 70% Alpha Androstenol and 30% Beta Androstenol. Effect of Pheros if sweaty > [@BLADE](#): > > Generally speaking you will get better diffusion, but a shorter duration of effects - so you may need to re-apply a little more often. The upside is that you may not need to apply quite so much in the first place. > > Also just be aware that mones such as Androsterone and Androstenol break down and convert to Androstenone after awhile. The heat will speed this up, so don’t be too quick to re-apply 'None based products or you may find yourself accidentally overdosing. Pheros and ADD Medacine > [@andrew88777](#): > > * * * > > ## Quote: Originally Posted by **Zansteps** _I’ve got kind of a complex question here, and I’m not sure if anyone can answer it, but I’ll give it a shot anyways. Okay, so I’m diagnosed ADD (age 17, not a little kid… we all had ADD in 1st grade) and take medication to regulate it. You can banter all you want about whether ADD actually exists, but I don’t care. Point is, I take a prescribed amphetamine that focuses my mind and speeds up heart rate (which is strange, as its supposed to calm the user, but whatever). I’d read in K-Train’s journal that A314 has a focusing/calming effect on the user. I’ve heard that Instant Gentleman (which is a Phero I’m looking into testing) is like a watered down/little brother version of A314. So I was wondering if Instant Gentleman would at all conflict with my sense of focus when used at the same time as my medication._ > > The Instant line will not mess with your ADD meds. They will not cause you to become unfocused at all so no worries there. > > ## Here is a post from another site that explains in easy terms why amphetamines work. > > ## Quote: The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH, a division of the National Institute of Health, _[http://www.nih.gov/](http://www.nih.gov/)_ ) conducted research using PET scans to observe the working brain. The research confirmed that the parts of the brain that control movement, attention and social judgment displayed “lower metabolic activity” - in other words, the neurons fired more slowly - in the ADHD brain than in those not afflicted by the disorder. This, then, explains why “speedy” drugs “work.” They speed up those slow neurons, giving the ADHD brain time to “stop and think,” for example, before acting on impulse. Especially lacking in the ADHD brain, researchers say, is the neurotransmitter dopamine. > > Amphetamines unfortunately speed up more than the slow neurons. Your heart rate is another example. In response to my post about Pheros and ADD Meds > [@Reclipse](#): > > Hi Zan - > > You pose a good question here. The A314 actually helps me to stay focused when I wear it in conjunction with taking adderall. I haven’t used the IG in the same context, but it shouldn’t cause any issues. > > Also, the effects of the amphetamine based product you’re taking (increased heartrate, etc) are common. The goal of the stimulant in your system is to help balance and focus your mental processes, not your physical. > > I was diagnosed at 16 yrs old w/ ADD and was put on Dexadrine. That shit helped me to get through school… otherwise I would have never graduated. Location/Effect of Phero wearing. > [@scotties123](#): > > To get self effects, pheromones are typically applied to the face, neck, and upper chest area. To avoid self effects, but still have effects on others, they are usually applied to the wrists, forearms, inside of elbows, top of hair, and back of head. Be aware that applying to the hair will increase diffusion. This could definitely be used to your advantage, but just know that it may mean a refresher spray is needed in a couple hours. You should also know that heavy -none products tend to stick to the skin and hair a bit more than -nol and -rone. > I would suggest IG to the neck and IO to the insides of your arms. That way you get the self effects of the IG and don’t become a motor-mouth from the IO. K-Train’s tips for healthy business 1. Always use your own rubber. 2. The “Did you do the homework” like rarely fails. 3. Meo- [EST](https://phera.com/) will replace marijuana very soon… 4. Girls are emotional by nature, they will do stuff like [act agressively, sometimes physically] this to sometimes test us guys. I believe in me and C’s case it’s doubly true because we are both “Alphas” but the point is to never let them smell fear. And that is the conclusion of the first entry of my journal. Night all, Noble P.S. Myself and Zodiacore are both 17 year old highschool students. If he ever publishes a journal, and you want to find some extra info in a similar context (I think he’s a little more shy than me, just say’n :-p ) look him up. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/2 "2009-10-16T00:10:03Z")
Hey ZanSteps, great first post in your journal!!! I think you are going to do amazing things with your pheroventures. Let us know when you have bought your stash and are ready to begin. Of course you must have gotten your gift certificate- that’s a good way to start. Hope to see you posting soon !!! _Evolve_. ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/3 "2009-10-16T01:06:47Z")
Yup yup… I got my GC and I already bought 2 Pheros… IG and IO, both Togo sizes… not exactly infinite testing combinations, but I’ve read many times that together they have the sort of effect I want… they won’t get here till next week, but I’m hoping it will be in time before the homecoming dance (gotta get a date before the dance, duh)… if not, I’m definately going to be ready and experienced with Pheros by the time Prom rolls around 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/4 "2009-10-16T03:08:55Z")
[Didn’t post when I put it in the general advice thread for some reason, hope some people respond here]] Okay guys, so, I need just a little bit of general relationship advice… Homecoming dance is a week away and I don’t have a date… my IG and IO are going to be in i think Wednsday next week, the dance is next saturday… Today during 7th hour, my last class of the day (Philosophy), we had a big paper due ( I over shot the word limit of 4000 by 600 words -\_- ) and the teacher was taking time to speak with each student individually. While she was doing that, she’d given us this article to read about existential reality (Really interesting stuff actually… I’m a nerd :-p). I’d read the article, highlighted some stuff, but it was getting kinda noisy with the other students on my side of the room, so I went to the other and grabbed a desk by my ex girlfriend (Who is now a really good friend of mine, weird how that works). We talked about the article a bit, and then I noticed I was 2 rows over from this girl, we’ll call her ‘LR’. LR is simply an amazing girl. Mature, Smart as a whip, and about as beautiful as geniuses come. There is nothing I like more than a smart and pretty girl. She has a taste for intelligent humor, which I all too willingly provide. Anyways, so there she was, and I noticed that she was done with the article too. The teacher had encouraged that we discuss the article with other students, so I broke away from my ex and sat on top of a desk next to LR. We were talking about the article and like K-Train says, theres no better icebreaker than home/classwork. Side Note: When I sat on top of the desk (I continue to stress that because its just one of the odd things I normally do, but I’m also surprised it didn’t sway LR, because it seemed like a slightly immature thing to do that she might have disapproved of.), LR almost immediately engaged me in conversation, not something I really expected. Back track 2 days, it was afterschool, just after Philosophy class had ended (I have Philosophy every other day). I ran to go get some food cause I hadn’t eaten all day. I left my stuff in class because I had to stay after to speak with the teacher about the essay that was due next class. When I get back, Brisk and Honey Bun in hand(s), I notice LR just finished talking to the teacher, and LR was sniffling, like she’d been crying. She avoided eye contact with me as she was leaving. After I got home after my meeting with the teacher, I got on facebook and asked LR “Whats up?” in just a regular, casual text tone (so difficult to convey tone through text these days :-p ) which I don’t think was something she expected at all. We know eachother because this is the second year we’ve had Philosophy with one another, but we aren’t really friends. She apologized for what happened after Philosophy class, saying she was just having a bad afternoon. I told her it was nothing to be sorry about, these things happen, and then we carried on a light conversation till she had to go. I think that was the icebreaker right there. So now skip 2 days forward, I’m sitting on a desk next to LR and she asked me if I had reviewed her essay that was due today. A day ago all the students were assigned to peer review (anonymously) an essay through a website tool. She said it was a very well written review, and she agreed with a lot of what the reviewer said, and then she added that it sounded a lot like something I would write. I was kinda rocked by the comment. LR, one of the smartest, most beautiful girls in the class has established a positive opinion about my writing style. Unfortunately I had to tell her that I wasn’t the one that reviewed her essay, as much as I wish I had. Since I hadn’t reviewed it, I started to ask her a couple of questions about her topic and such, and in turn she asked a few about mine. We went back and forth until 5 minutes before the bell. She had to leave class to go check the grade she got on her Calculus test (it was a 100… have I mentioned I love smart girls?) and I had to go pack up my stuff. Now, my question (by the way, if you’ve made it this far, I thank you deeply). If I wanted to ask LR to the dance, how should I proceed? I have 1 week’s time till the dance, and IG and IO at my disposal. Side note: What happened in the past 2 philosophy classes was completely without Pheros (apart from naturals, which puzzles me a bit… hmmmm). Should I use both and try to talk to her a little more before I ask her, or should I just use IO to talk to her, then just IG when I ask her? LR is almost a stranger to me, apart from knowing one another’s names, and having had a chat or 2 over the past 2 years we’ve had Philosophy together. Any and All advice would be greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/5 "2009-10-16T17:18:54Z")
[Sorry to double/triple post]] My Pheros just came in today (all To-Go size): 1 IG 1 IO 1 TUTH (GIFT!!! ^_^_^_^_^) This is going to be a fuuuuuun week But I’m curious, what kind of discretion should I have with the TUTH? It isn’t a Phero I’ve done a heavy amount of research on. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/6 "2009-10-16T20:47:25Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > [Sorry to double/triple post]] > > My Pheros just came in today (all To-Go size): > 1 IG > 1 IO > 1 TUTH (GIFT!!! ^_^_^_^_^) > > This is going to be a fuuuuuun week > > But I’m curious, what kind of discretion should I have with the TUTH? It isn’t a Phero I’ve done a heavy amount of research on. Zansteps I’m sorry I didn’t arrive sooner but I’ve been doing some heavy reading on the forums lately. Anyway, GREAT JOURNAL so far!!🆒 Ok, to answer your question about how to ask her to the dance you need to make it sound 1.)Casual 2.) As if it’s no big deal Why? If you sound desperate she’ll think your being weak which you don’t want. By making it sound casual and unimportant you’ll come off as a confident guy who isn’t pusing her to come. Comfort is important to girls as I’m sure you know. Unfortunately, I can’t tell you _exactly_ what to say because you have to learn to do this on your own but as long as you stay cool and approach it with little concern I’m sure you’ll do fine. Now, about TUTH, don’t use it, at least not yet. TUTH is meant for intimate one-on-one encounters like when your at her house alone in the bedroom, that kind of thing. Wait until you two have built up a nice relationship and THEN you can use TUTH to “seal the deal”. **K-TRAIN SECRET RAILROAD DISH OF THE DAY:** INSTANT HONESTY!!😃 Instant Honesty is the phero that will bring you closer than ever to whoever with enough time and exposure. It has a sort of bonding effect that will deepen a relationship. Nols in general are a little underrated when compared to their more aggressive counterpart Andrestenone but they can have powerful ramifications when used wisely. For best applications of Instant Honesty use 3-4 srays on the top of the head, side of the scalp, and back of the neck. This will ensure that you aren’t effected as much as your targets. Best Mix: A314/IG with 4 sprays Instant Honesty with 2-3 sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). When used in a one-on-one situation with a girl I found that the mix of nols and the masculinity of Andresterone help make you appear trustable, approachable yet masculine and allows girls to see you as a LTR. My current girl of interest is a little…stuck on me because of this. Sorry if I rambled Zansteps but when an idea hits me I have to write it down immediately.😉 EDIT: If you use the above mix of Instant Honesty with Instant Openness you run the risk of unleashing motomouth syndrome on a girl and she will tell EVERYTHING, and she WILL talk your EAR OFF, so you better be ready. ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/7 "2009-10-17T04:10:09Z")
Okay, my first test tonight, and honestly I’m kind of dissappointed. This could have been caused by 2 things either 1) I was expecting too much or 2) I was using too low a dosage. (or maybe because I hadn’t washed off my natural Pheros?) Okay so, my best man R calls my up and says to meet him at the mall and I was like “Yes, first test!” I sprayed on 1 IG and 1 IO, just for starters… the night carries on and I meet up with R, and 2 other guys, then we go to the mall and meet up with R’s girlfriend, “A-R” and her friends. Side Note: Not sure that it really matters, but everyone apart from R and A-R were total strangers to me. I was sitting in the food court, and not really getting all that much attention or openness, despite my attempts to start conversation. I was afraid that maybe just 1 spray was ODing, and that I was just ghosting or that my 1 spray wasn’t enough. We split up for a bit to head to another common meeting place. I dropped off the 3 people that were with me, R, A-R and another girl, and then went to park the car. After I parked the car I sprayed on 1 more of each. From then on, I noticed things started to get a little better. For a time R and A-R had walked off, leaving me with 2 of A-R’s friends and one of their boyfriends. The conversation went pretty smoothly i guess for being with complete strangers. And then, for the rest of the night… I swear A-R was hitting on me O.o After the second spray she started to really warm up to me… like, she claimed she was single TWICE to me, while R was standing right there, and while we were walking, if R wasn’t there, she put her arm around my waist while I would jokingly put my arm over her shoulder, but she was being serious. I’m really not sure what to make of it. Were the Pheros even in effect at all, or was A-R acting like she normally would have? I’m not even sure IG + IO is supposed to have that sort of effect. Its so difficult to tell peoples normal way of acting apart from how they react to Pheros… Well, I’m going to sleep for now, so any advice would be wonderful… but before I do that I have to go apologize to R about his girlfriend \>\_\< EDIT: OH! And also, in this common meeting place we were at, its sort of a plaza type deal where alot of people conjugate in groups. Occainsionally my group would bump into another, someone would know someone from each and then we’d all start to mingle. Well, while we were mingling once, I found it slightly easy to strike up a conversation with a few of the girls, joking back and forth. Once I even went so far as to comment on a girls bra and she was totally okay. Again, I really can’t tell if thats the kinda girl she was, or if the Pheros were in effect ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/8 "2009-10-18T02:30:52Z")
Hey guys, jsut got back from chilling with the same crowd from last night, but the bad news is I’m even more disappointed ☹ I wasn’t getting any hits, but I made sure to use the same exact dosage as last night (2 sprays of IG and IO). It seemed to have worked well for me last night, but this night, nothing. The atmosphere was a little charged because of an altercation between R and some guy that was talkn shit before I arrived, and afterwards R was talking about how he might be breaking up with A-R. So all in all there were negative vibes shooting off every where, could that have nullified my Pheros, or was I really ghosting? 2 sprays seems liek a really low dosage to be ODing on, seriously… ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/9 "2009-10-18T21:52:31Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > Hey guys, jsut got back from chilling with the same crowd from last night, but the bad news is I’m even more disappointed ☹ I wasn’t getting any hits, but I made sure to use the same exact dosage as last night (2 sprays of IG and IO). It seemed to have worked well for me last night, but this night, nothing. > > The atmosphere was a little charged because of an altercation between R and some guy that was talkn shit before I arrived, and afterwards R was talking about how he might be breaking up with A-R. So all in all there were negative vibes shooting off every where, could that have nullified my Pheros, or was I really ghosting? 2 sprays seems liek a really low dosage to be ODing on, seriously… Don’t worry about it man. Pheros can’t do everthing and sometimes life happens. Just keep moving.😉 Also, I don’t know how your budget is but I’ll strongly suggest investing in a to-go of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), not yet, but eventually you need to test it out, especially since this store runs low on products pretty quickly. But before you do, answer this question for me right here cause it’s important: Are you ready/prepared for sex? Along with the above question I want to know how you test your products, meaning do you go in expecting something or do you keep a clear head? Answer those questions and I’ll be happy to…lend you some more advice. ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/10 "2009-10-18T22:06:58Z")
Am I prepared for sex? Hmmm… well, the question is, with who? I mean, it has to be mutual, and yeah, I’m still a virgin, so who I lose my virginity too means something… So actually, no, I don’t think I’m prepared for casual sex.. \>\_\< And when I go to test products (I’ve only actually done 2 tests), the first time, I was expecting some profound difference, but then after that, I was just seeing if I’d notice anything out of the ordinary… Tomorrow will be the first time I test Pheros in school, where I’ll definately be able to notice differences among people I know well… What is the time duration on an IG/IO 2/3 spray mix? When should I re-apply? K-Train, I was reading your journal and what you had about [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)… its P83 the same sort of Phero as TUTH? You seem to use P83 kind of haphazardly, like in class with C, and I was wondering if I could use TUTH to the same effect. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/11 "2009-10-18T22:28:55Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > Am I prepared for sex? Hmmm… well, the question is, with who? I mean, it has to be mutual, and yeah, I’m still a virgin, so who I lose my virginity too means something… So actually, no, I don’t think I’m prepared for casual sex.. \>\_\< > > And when I go to test products (I’ve only actually done 2 tests), the first time, I was expecting some profound difference, but then after that, I was just seeing if I’d notice anything out of the ordinary… > > Tomorrow will be the first time I test Pheros in school, where I’ll definately be able to notice differences among people I know well… What is the time duration on an IG/IO 2/3 spray mix? When should I re-apply? I haven’t tried IG but it’s got the same main ingredient A314 does(rone) so I’d say about 4-5 hours. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) probably around the same. Depends on how hot the environment is. Also, about your answers at the top, good choice. You can’t be a virgin forever but you CAN be picky about who you sex, good morales. Since you’ve got a good testing mentality I’m sure you can get reporting user status soon, but honestly, I think you might have to wait on the P83, at least I’d recommend waiting. It’ll be cheaper if you do but I just thought adding it in would help but I jumped the gun a little because you’ve really just started testing a few weeks ago and P83 is a tricky little bastard to control. So anyway, keep it up man, and hopefully you’ll be have reporting user status. When you do THEN make sure P83 is one of the first things you try out. Hopefully by then I’ll have found a way to safely tame it in an environment. ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/12 "2009-10-19T01:24:07Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Since you’ve got a good testing mentality I’m sure you can get reporting user status soon… How long did it take you to get yours? I wanna get some IH to add to my current IG/IO mix, but 50$ is steep \>\_\< ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/13 "2009-10-19T01:37:34Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > How long did it take you to get yours? I wanna get some IH to add to my current IG/IO mix, but 50$ is steep \>\_\< Actually, not very long at all. I bought A314, asked Steve if I could get the code for the Insider’s Club and while doing that he visited my log and liked it. After that he gave me reporting user satus and here I am!😃 Also, you only get disounts on the experimental stuff like MX’s,putatives, and stuff like that. No discounts on consumer line product unfortunately.☹ ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/14 "2009-10-19T01:48:05Z")
Aw dang it… well, I have to get familiar with the consumer line first… maybe order like 2 ToGos of a couple different ones, then maybe move on to the advanced stuff… ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/15 "2009-10-19T01:53:08Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > Aw dang it… well, I have to get familiar with the consumer line first… maybe order like 2 ToGos of a couple different ones, then maybe move on to the advanced stuff… Remember, you can always use the first responder bonus in the Intro section if you’re low on cash.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/16 "2009-10-19T20:06:04Z")
_Journal Entry #1_\*\* Initial Dosage (applied at 6 AM)\*\* 4 Sprays of IG; 2 to either side of my neck, 1 to the front of my neck, and 1 rubbed between the backs of my hands 3 Sprays of IO; 2 to either side of my hair above my ears, and 1 rubbed between my wrist and the inside of my arms. **Morning at school (7 to 7:30)** I was just walking around, minding my own business, when a new friend of mine, a freshman we’ll cal “ **ML** ”, sort of pounced me. She walked up to me, hugged me, and we started talking. She blantly told me that she broke up with her boyfriend over the weekend, which is kind of personal seeing as I’ve only known her for about 2 or 3 weeks. I actually already knew about that anyways because shes a member of that party group along with R, and news travels fast. After a few minutes she starts complaining about how cold it is, and that we should go to the library until the morning bell rings. _Commentary: It was reeeeeally cold this morning. Like, uncommonly cold for south Florida. It was cold and dry. Noting that that might be a factor in Phero dispersion. This also prompted me to wear a jacket with long sleeves, which covered my arms and slightly closed in the area around my head. Would my Pheros have been effected by the jacket?_ Before we leave, I told ML to continue on without me because I had noticed a friend of mine nearby. I’m certain ML heard me, but she hovered near me anyways when I went to go talk to my friend “ **LS** ” (a sophomore). LS, I’ve known since last year and we’re really good friends. We could have potentially gone out, but we sort of unspokenly agreed that we would just remain really really good friends. Anyways, I asked LS whether or not she was going to homecoming and she said “Yes, Noble, do you want a date?” Really, there wasn’t a lot odd with this, because we’re really good friends and everyone knows it, so going to homecoming with LS wouldn’t be any sort of official engagement, but the fact that SHE was the one who proposed the idea, not me, is a little uncharacteristic. I think it was mostly the IO that prompted her response, maybe to a lesser degree with IG, but mostly IO. ML was hovering around me while I talked to LS, and then ML and I went to the library. After the morning bell rang at 7:20, we started making our way towards class. I walked out of the library quicker than ML because she had to grab her stuff. Once outside, ML caught up to me (chased is a better term) and we walked to class. We had different classes in the same building, so we were walking in the same direction, but I wanted to go talk to some other friends before I got to class. ML and I were walking down the hall and when I went to take a right to go talk to my friends, I noticed that she noticed what I was doing, and made a motion to follow me, but I nudged her towards the main hall way and told her to get to class. She was reluctant, but went on her way. **Recap:”Hits”** Initials: Grade: Time Known **ML** :9th grade: 3 weeks - Effected by IG and the sense of safety or comfort; hovering near me and wanting to stay close to me. Also effected by IO (and probably IG); telling me about her recent break up. **LS** :10th grade: 1 year - Effected by IG; proposed (only slightly prompted) to attend Homecoming with me This is just the morning, more to come, stay tuned. ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/17 "2009-10-19T20:28:12Z")
**Math ( 7:30 to 9 AM)** Before Math class started, I approached a friend of mine “ **PG** ”. Shes a senior and I’ve known her for about a year. She is soft-spoken and isn’t normally one of the talkative types, atleast not usually the one to initiate conversation, but she did this time, asking about the weekend and such. I think that qualifies as an IO hit. Our conversation was cut short by the arrival of the teacher. In math class, I sit near a senior “ **SM** ” that I’ve known for 2 years. We aren’t really friends, but over the past 3 years (including our senior year) we have always some how had a class where we have to deal with one another. I think she’s kind of hot, in that artsy indie sort of way, but she is utterly annoyed with my presense. So we’ve known eachother for 2 years, but we don’t like eachother at all. Anyways, during this math class, SM was slightly less hostile towards me, and actually paid attention to what I was saying to her when commenting on a math problem we were doing (differential equations ftw!) This could have been equally due to IG and IO. _Commentary: I think I also received a positive effect from the IG. I’m normally out spoken in mosto f my classes, but not usually Math class. Today, I was giving answers and solution process that I didn’t even have! What I mean is that I had no pre-prepared answers or work (which usually give a sense of security), but I was solving problems based on what was on the board._ _Definately a slight boost of self confidence._ **Recap: “Hits”** **PG** : 12: 1 year – Effected by IO; willingness to converse **SM** :12: 2 years (uneasy) – Effected by IG and IO; less hostile Still more to come about today ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/18 "2009-10-19T20:52:10Z")
**History (9 to 11 AM)** Nothing really worth mentioning. Standard Lecture, minimum social contact. **Reapplied Dosage (applied at 11 AM)** 2 Sprays of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/); 1 to the backs of my hands, and 1 to the front of my neck. 2 Sprays of Instant Openness; 1 to my wrists and inner arm and 1 to the top of my head **Human Geography (11 to 12 AM)** This class I’ve gotta talk about. I’m known for being loud and very incharge in this class, very ‘Alpha’ as some say, but really its just because there are a lot of under classmen. Anyways, class carried on as usual, students sort of doing what they want for the first 20 minutes, and me standing, asserting my dominance on my side of the classroom. There are 2 freshman in particular in this class that I’m pretty good friends with, “ **SZ** ” and “ **ME** ”. They don’t buy the b.s. I feed most of the freshmen, atleast not usually, and thats what I like about them. Today they were both being rather talkative whenever I was standing near them. I wanted to test whether or not Pheros sprayed in the hair were dispersed when the hair is brushed or otherwise shifted. I was over by ME and started brushing/fixing my hair, and all of a sudden she calls me out! She did it in a slightly joking manner, but said “Noble, you think upper classmen are so great and you’re so high and mighty because you can boss around under classmen, but I think-“ I cut her off at that point, jokingly focusing on what she said about how upper classmen are so great, in an attempt to maintain my superiority position in the class. I think that maybe the IG made me seem more Alpha than normal, and that the IO prompted ME to say what was really on her minds about me. **Recap: Hits** **ME** : 9th: 8 weeks – Effected by IO; made a blunt statement about me ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/19 "2009-10-19T21:05:33Z")
**Lunch (12 to 1 PM)** Okay, this was probably the greatest hit, or 2 hits, of the day. I’m sitting in the lunch room with my regular crew, talking and joking like we always do. In the midst of it all, I notice the new girl at the table, a freshman “ **LE** ”. She’s a friend of one of the regulars at the table and started sitting with us since last week. I noticed that she kept looking at me while I wasn’t paying attention and sometimes even when I was. She has dark brown eyes so it was difficult to tell if her eyes were dialated, which I’ve heard so many times is a sign of attraction. I introduced myself, because we were officially unacquainted with one another, and then I asked her what color her eyes were. I know, it’s a dumb question, but I wanted an excuse to look into her eyes to see if her pupils were dialated. They seemed slightly large, and I looked another friend’s eyes to see how they compared, and sure enough LE’s were pretty dialated. I’ve heard that A314 often causes this effect, and since IG is like the younger brother of A314, I’d attribute this hit to IG. **Recap: Hits** **LE** : 9th: 2 weeks – Effected by IG; attraction indicated by pupil dialations And that’s all for today. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/20 "2009-10-19T21:55:08Z")
Very cool! Sounds like you had a very good day. I LOVE [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). It works great when paired the way you did today. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282.md?page=2)