# Mad Science with Noble Intentions

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [October 14, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282 "2009-10-14T04:26:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/21 "2009-10-19T22:24:02Z")

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Did I spray my Pheros in the proper places for maximum effectiveness? Its was cold out and I was wearing a jacket, so did that effect dispersion at all?

And also I’d like to mention that I only have To-Go sizes (I need to order some more ASAP since I used like 1/3 of each jsut today) and I’ve heard that To-Go sprays ares like 80% of full sized sprays…

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/22 "2009-10-19T23:27:52Z")

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Just placed an order (All To-Go):

2x IG  
2x CTTM2  
1x IJ  
1x IS double strength

They look like some fun things to try out, and from what I’ve read, rather potent.

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/23 "2009-10-19T23:28:28Z")

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Niceeeeeee!!!😃

Very detailed report, I like that you reported on each target individually. I sometimes do but since I’ve got a MAIN target…well you know.🙄 Plus, in college you don’t get to much freedom in the class unless you goof off and if you do that you will fail epicly. But the parties…are a different story!😉

Anyway, you did right about your applications. When it gets cold spray to the neck, head and _sometimes_ the back of your hands if necessary. Also, you’re correct about the to-gos, they only spray 80% of what the bottle does. So that means 12.5mcgs per spray is really 10mcgs per spray. Weird ain’t it?😛

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/24 "2009-10-19T23:31:58Z")

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> [@K-Train](#):
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> Also, you’re correct about the to-gos, they only spray 80% of what the bottle does. So that means 12.5mcgs per spray is really 10mcgs per spray. Weird ain’t it?😛

K, but doesn’t that mean that like 2 sprays of a To-Go is more like 1.5~6 sprays from normal? Great… more math…

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/25 "2009-10-19T23:43:55Z")

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> [@Zansteps](#):
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> K, but doesn’t that mean that like 2 sprays of a To-Go is more like 1.5~6 sprays from normal? Great… more math…

Yeah…not my strongest subject…:o

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/26 "2009-10-19T23:45:43Z")

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> [@K-Train](#):
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> Yeah…not my strongest subject…:o

Don’t worry, they up the dose of [pheromones](https://a314.com/) accordingly so technically, both the 5ml and the 30ml give the same approximate dose of pheros even though the 30ml bottle sprays a larger volume.

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/27 "2009-10-19T23:52:40Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> Don’t worry, they up the dose of pheromones accordingly so technically, both the 5ml and the 30ml give the same approximate dose of pheros even though the 30ml bottle sprays a larger volume.

Oh… OOPS! I just ordered double strength IS…

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/28 "2009-10-19T23:54:43Z")

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> [@Zansteps](#):
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> Oh… OOPS! I just ordered double strength IS…

Alriiiiiight! Gonna be grinning from ear to ear! 😃

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/29 "2009-10-20T00:07:48Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> Alriiiiiight! Gonna be grinning from ear to ear! 😃

Where should I apply it to make certain it effects others as well? Might be good for the homecoming dance 🙂

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/30 "2009-10-20T00:09:33Z")

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> [@Zansteps](#):
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> Where should I apply it to make certain it effects others as well? Might be good for the homecoming dance 🙂

Perfect place! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/31 "2009-10-20T00:11:46Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> Perfect place! 🙂

I meant where on myself should I spray it \>\_\< sorry :-p

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/32 "2009-10-20T00:18:18Z")

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> [@Zansteps](#):
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> I meant where on myself should I spray it \>\_\< sorry :-p

Oops! 🙂

I find that the neck and tops of my hands are good places for most things. Anything high in androstenone I like to spray to the front of my throat and upper chest so that any woman who gets good and close really gets a good whiff. The ~nols I like to spray into my hair as it seems to do a great job of diffusing there.

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/33 "2009-10-20T02:42:13Z")

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When you put Pheros in your hair, how long do you wait to reapply? Although they diffuse better, it would make sense they not remain effective as long, wouldn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/34 "2009-10-20T02:49:01Z")

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> [@Zansteps](#):
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> When you put Pheros in your hair, how long do you wait to reapply? Although they diffuse better, it would make sense they not remain effective as long, wouldn’t it?

At least in my experience, they last about as long as the other pheros (if not just a bit longer).

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/35 "2009-10-20T03:32:46Z")

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For tomorrow’s mix, I want to try and get as much efficiancy as possible. I have class with LR tomorrow 🙂 [see pre-test journal entry #2] so I’m not going to reapply until after lunch (I have Philosophy right after lunch ends). Then again there is the possibility I won’t get the chance to move near LR, but whatever.

Tomorrow’s Pheros:

Initial (Morning)  
4 IG: 2 to the hair/ 1 to the neck/ 1 to the back of the hands  
3 IO: 2 to the hair/ 1 to the wrists and inner arms

Reapply (Afternoon)  
2 IG: 2 to the hair  
2 IO: 1 to the hair/ 1 to the hands

Any comments critiques?

Am I going overkill on the IG and IO? I’m not ghosting or anything, but it seems like thats a lot of Phero for little effect. I’m at half a bottle of IG just from today (and the little bit I used on the weekend), so I ordered 2 more. Hopefully the delivery gets here before Thursday, because if I keep up with this mix, I’ll be out by then.

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**Author:** ![hohohate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hohohate/32/2429_2.png) [@hohohate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hohohate)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/36 "2009-10-20T07:26:24Z")

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Be weary young Frankenstein.

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 10:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/37 "2009-10-20T10:11:11Z")

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Hehe, sorry, its just I’ve read that people don’t get effects with Pheros like IG and IO unless in large dosages…

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**Author:** ![hohohate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hohohate/32/2429_2.png) [@hohohate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hohohate)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/38 "2009-10-20T17:24:21Z")

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> [@Zansteps](#):
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> Hehe, sorry, its just I’ve read that people don’t get effects with Pheros like IG and IO unless in large dosages…

Not true. I’ve seen the effects after one spray. 🙂 Just depends on the target, and situation.

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/39 "2009-10-21T04:09:22Z")

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First of all, I cause way to much spam in my own journal \>\_\< Forgive me.

Initial (Morning 7:00)  
4 [IG](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) : 2 to the hair/ 1 to the neck/ 1 to the back of the hands  
3 [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) : 2 to the hair/ 1 to the wrists and inner arms

Morning  
Okay, so I had forgotten to apply my Pheros before I left the house. I applied them once I got to school at 7, which means they would wouldn’t be settled for another 20 minutes, which is basically when I have to get to class. I’m not entirely sure it qualifies as hit, but ML did that hovering thing again, or atleast tried to.

Hits  
None qualifiable

Art  
Nothing really notable, but that’s because a lot of us (myself included) were highly focused on our projects because the teacher moved the due date to a sooner time -\_-

Hits  
None qualifiable

Spanish  
My best description of this class is like the academic equivalent of Russian Roulette. We never know when we’ll have a test or when we have to turn in homework that she never mentioned. The atmosphere is a usually tense.

During some rare down time in the class, I struck up a conversation with “TR”, shes one of those artsy indie kids (Social group defines a lot of personality traits, so just noting this as a reference, might go into more detail in a later test). She sat 2 rows over from me, about 6 feet away, which I would have thought outside of my effective range. She is normally quiet, and isn’t usually the one to initiate conversation, with the exception of today. She also seemed to be staring at me often and smiling. This is Spanish class we’re in, which is basically like a death lotto, and TR is smiling \>\_\<

I also struck up some conversation with “LH”. She was sitting within close proximity of me, like 1-2 feet. She seemed more attentative and respective of what I had to say about our assignment, and even complimented me for some of my ideas for writing topics (in Spanish of course).

Hits  
TR: 12th: 2 years – Effected by IG: Comforted in a rather stressful setting  
LH:12th: 1 year – Effected by IO: easy conversation. Effected by IG: showed respect and compliment my commentary.

Human Geo  
Ahhhh this class again J J I had another confrontation with ME :-p As I was rushing in to class, I purposefully knocked her with my shoulder as she was walking toward the pencil sharpener. She pushed me back with both hands and then we both went chest to chest, filled with air, acting like we were gonna start a fight. We were both joking of course, but this is the second time ME has gone out of her way to challenge me, Alpha much?

Hits  
ME – Effected by IG: Maybe saw me as too much of an Alpha

Its late and I haven’t finished my math homework, nor even looked at my Human Geo study guide… I’ll format and finish this tomorrow…I’ve got some interesting notes about the self effects of the Pheros I used, so there something to look forward to…

Peace

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**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mad-science-with-noble-intentions/33282/40 "2009-10-22T22:03:40Z")

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My order just came, so my arsenal equates to:

[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/),  
Come Talk To Me Mix 2,  
Instant Openness,  
Instant Jerk,  
ISx2 and  
Turn Up The Heat

2 days from now, I’ve got homecoming and an after party to go to. I’d appreciate suggestions on dosages and locations for both. For the dance I’d just like to stick with CTTM and IS (maybe some IG) just so I can have a good time, as well as those around. For the afterparty I’m thinking some more CTTM, some IJ, and some TUTH (I could possibly get atleast a little lucky 😉 )

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