# Maidenfan's Pheros experience

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [December 2, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536 "2009-12-02T03:57:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/81 "2010-05-07T23:46:55Z")

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Mx301 1 spray  
P126 1 spray split between wrists  
1 Spray IO 2x

Location:  
Class

Self Effects:  
None

Effects on others:  
Girl next to me kept squirming in her chair and was flipping her hair like crazy. Next time I went to class I wasn’t wearing anything and the behavior was not like this. So I’m thinking mones played a part the first, especially the Mx301 as this is what I pretty much expect out of it.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/82 "2010-05-13T06:33:51Z")

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MX337

3 sprays before heading to a friends house for pregaming/hanging out

Decidedly social.

Self Effects:  
Great. Really uplifting and generally want to be social. I think there is hints of TAA and A-nol in it. Definitely a few putatives I am unfamiliar with. It seems that TAA is a standard among most mxs and I can see why. I really like the akuto scent out of the spray bottle.

Effects on others:  
Generally a good mood and sociable. Its a mood lifter, and promotes a lighthearted good time. Definitely just a social mix.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/83 "2010-05-14T18:33:07Z")

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Just got my order in and made my own 30ml of MX301.  
Some say making it yourself works better than the one that androtics sells, lets see if there is a difference.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/84 "2010-05-26T23:19:47Z")

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Un-mone related. This is a journal after all.

The best thing I have ever heard I heard recently.  
I don’t know the words verbatim, but it basically said that looking for a good relationship is healthy and normal, and you should never be afraid of looking desperate if your looking for a good and healthy relationship. I think the second part is equally as important as the first. I’ve seen examples of it in real life. Sometimes (most of the time) an initial “no” isn’t a definite no. A little persistence and good wording can get you past that no. Think about it, I’ve been weirded out knowing someone was interested in me. Not necessarily because I didn’t like them, but maybe just because you don’t know how to react if its not completely mutual. A little work and a little convincing is sometimes all you need.

I’ve seen someone say no, I just want to be friends to a friend of mine. She was adamant about it. He tried to convince her multiple times, and all of a sudden, he got exactly what he wanted. I have a cousin whose wife is with him after he was rejected by him multiple times. I think I see this problem over and over on these forums, people take rejection like its the end of the world or the end of any possibility. In reality, its not. It really is about confidence. You need to project that your are confident it will be a healthy realtionship, and you really want it to be, thats the name of the game. By doing so your indirectly asserting your self-worth too, showing DHV. Just do your best to not be creepy. I hope this way of thinking helps someone out there. I’ve seen it work too many times over the past few months to really discredit it at all.

I think I am retiring this journal too. I’ll put reports in the men’s section if i have any

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/85 "2010-08-30T04:27:45Z")

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> [@Maidenfan01](#):
>
> Snoopy’s IJ mix  
> 100-150 mcg Meo- Est (used 150)  
> 25-50 mcg P83 (used 40mcg)  
> 1 spray of Instant Jerk
> 
> Works like a freakin charm.
> 
> We pregamed at my roomates gfs house. This girl showed some interest. We later headed toward the bar. Her and a few of the other girls walked ahead of the guys. at the bar on the dance floor she pulls me towards her to “keep the creepers away”. Grabs my hands will dancing with her and grinding. The weird thing was she constantly put my grabbed my hands and placed them back if I took them off even for a second. Her shirt lifted a bit to the point I was grabbing bare stomach, and she didn’t do a thing about it. Obvious interest, obvious comfort level. This is one of those times when you think it is 90% mones 10% you. No effort at all on my part. She has a BF unfortunately, or I would have put the effort in. Friends commented on what was going on. She even asked me to walk her back from the bar which unfortunately didn’t end up happening. I’m not in the business of breaking people up, so it just wasn’t meant to happen, but man it was a confidence booster. Best part was a girl who kinda dissed me after giving me her number without me asking saw the whole thing, and kept looking over haha. really fun night, and an awesome mix that helped make it fun 🙂
> 
> I am running out of MEO-EST. Time to buy a 30ml. Sorry if this is a bit of rambling, I am still a bit drunk.

Ok, so follow up to this, because I am back at school now and just got some new info on this situation. Apparently, this girl told her friend that she didn’t know what it was, but she was really into me. Which means two things.

1.) I must have been on my game that night  
2.) This mix has got something going on.

And she’s single now. So, time to work some magic 🙂. Also, school means a lot of easier ways to test for me, so consider this journal revived.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/86 "2010-09-03T06:49:17Z")

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3 Sprays of homebrew MX301  
2 to neck  
1 to wrists.

TONS of interest from women at the bar. I was getting approached by girls I had known through acquaintances. One girl grabbed me on the dance floor. Dirty, Dirty dancing was the result, followed by a trip to my house. I will let you guys figure out what happened from there.

I don’t think I am looking for ONS anymore, glad I figured this out now.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/87 "2010-09-04T03:27:01Z")

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Self test P74, 15mcgs/spray

Sprayed 30mcgs to start.  
Noticed a bit calmer feeling and the fimiliar pherorush of trying a new product. Relaxed and calm is the best way to describe the self effects.

20 minutes later decided to add another spray, so 45mcgs total.  
Starting to feel tired, however I notice a tightening of my face muscles, almost the seem feeling of smiling, however it seems to be pulling my eyebrows up as well. Calm but alert would be the best way to describe it.

10 minutes after  
Tiredness begins to set in a little more. Kind of like an [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) crash. Thinking I could probably use a little -none to prevent the drowsiness.

Can definitely feel this molecule in MX301 now that I have tried it by itself. I am personally thinking of using it with P86, b-nol, and low amounts of -none for daily wear. Will test out soon.

Also, I will be testing out P93 more soon too. I have a decent amount left at 20mcgs, so we will see how that goes.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/88 "2010-09-08T16:52:21Z")

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Just got an interview for a PAID internship that I need very desperately. Lets hope that A314 can work its magic!

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/89 "2010-09-12T05:41:21Z")

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Tonite’s mix:

15mcg [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)  
7.5mcg -none  
30mcgs P86  
30 mcgs P83  
10mcgs beta-nol

A bit of a pherobomb for me, but quite effective, definitely gave me what I am presently looking for. Tonight, I got free beer, chatted up girls waiting for the bathroom and seemed to make friends with just about anyone who came my way. Definitely a good mix, I got tons of respect, and tons of interest from women. The mix needs to be tweaked however, but it is right up the alley of something I am looking for.

P74 is something that agrees with me very well, and mixes well with both beta-nol and -none, two molecules I have grown to love. I think I am on to something for myself.

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**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/90 "2010-09-12T05:58:32Z")

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> [@Maidenfan01](#):
>
> Just got an interview for a PAID internship that I need very desperately. Lets hope that A314 can work its magic!

what happened to the interview?, hope you got the job!!

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/91 "2010-09-12T21:15:13Z")

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O yea, I should report on that.  
I wore 3.5 drops I think of A314  
2 sprays of IH 2x  
1 Spray of IS

Went well, turns out its not paid, and I need to get a sponsor from my department. But I pretty much got it once I got a professor to sponsor me, which should be easy. I need to get paid but experience is more important in the long run so I will probably still do it.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/92 "2010-09-15T20:56:21Z")

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[MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)  
1 spray to the wrists  
2 to the neck.

Went to class, sat next to a girl in my project group. I had a small feeling there was some interest before, but today it seemed a little more obvious. Before class there was just some small talk about other classes we have together and our project. Normal crap.

Once class got started and the professor was lecturing (when we are not supposed to be talking) she started asking me some more personal questions, like where I work, how long, where is it. She seemed genuinely interested too, not just trying to be polite. Now the other part that makes it a bit weird other than it was while the professor was talking was that we were sitting in the front row, with the professor directly infront of us. We both were turned looking at each other too, so it was pretty damn obvious that we weren’t paying attention. Something most have intrigued her to have her start a conversation like that while we should have been quiet.

So I am taking that as a hit, one that I personally enjoyed quite a bit.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/93 "2010-09-16T21:09:21Z")

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No mones today but more attention from that girl.

I forgot to do my homework, she said she would slip me her’s if I got called on. She was resting her feet on my chair and kept “accidentally” hitting me. I got called on and she nailed me in the hip with her foot to say gj even though I answered with her answers haha. She always says hi to me when I walk in the room, but doesn’t seem as friendly with other group members.There is also some friendly teasing going on.

Heyo, looks like I’m onto something here. Wish I remembered what combo I wore when I first met her, I haven’t a clue.

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**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/94 "2010-09-17T01:50:31Z")

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> [@Maidenfan01](#):
>
> No mones today but more attention from that girl.
> 
> I forgot to do my homework, she said she would slip me her’s if I got called on. She was resting her feet on my chair and kept “accidentally” hitting me. I got called on and she nailed me in the hip with her foot to say gj even though I answered with her answers haha. She always says hi to me when I walk in the room, but doesn’t seem as friendly with other group members.There is also some friendly teasing going on.
> 
> Heyo, looks like I’m onto something here. Wish I remembered what combo I wore when I first met her, I haven’t a clue.

First impressions lasts a lifetime, and I’m sure you left a serious first impression 🙂.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/95 "2010-09-17T19:34:22Z")

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Ordered project UF, hope I get some [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) with it, if it really is that uplifting of a putative, I could really use it lately.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/96 "2010-09-17T20:15:31Z")

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> [@Maidenfan01](#):
>
> Ordered project UF, hope I get some P130 with it, if it really is that uplifting of a putative, I could really use it lately.

I ordered it a couple of days ago and I got [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) with my order. You should be able to get it.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/97 "2010-09-17T23:20:54Z")

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I got to admit it completely pisses me off that I haven’t even gotten any. Oh well. I guess if androtics won’t send me new molecules I can always get some from other places

[http://yahoofreak.com/emoticons/Evil%20Emoticons/devil2.gif](http://yahoofreak.com/emoticons/Evil%20Emoticons/devil2.gif)

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/98 "2010-09-17T23:22:44Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> I got to admit it completely pisses me off that I haven’t even gotten any. Oh well. I guess if androtics won’t send me new molecules I can always get some from other places
> 
> [http://yahoofreak.com/emoticons/Evil%20Emoticons/devil2.gif](http://yahoofreak.com/emoticons/Evil%20Emoticons/devil2.gif)

Have you voiced this?

I just find that that’s utter BS, especially if you’re going to help users out with phone consultations how are you supposed to know?

The first thing about having great customer support and service is that your people know what you’re selling.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/99 "2010-09-17T23:24:26Z")

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It is kinda weird they aren’t letting you have it.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/100 "2010-09-19T00:55:53Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> Have you voiced this?
> 
> I just find that that’s utter BS, especially if you’re going to help users out with phone consultations how are you supposed to know?
> 
> The first thing about having great customer support and service is that your people know what you’re selling.

> [@Maidenfan01](#):
>
> It is kinda weird they aren’t letting you have it.

Honestly I’m kind of shocked myself about it. I’ve run many companies before and just the fact of being told I need to read the forum to discover what’s happening in the company is beyond strange for me. I guess that’s how its done in retail, but I’m not sure how a company could be successful using those tactics. When Mickaelia and I first heard about this we were both at first shocked and when it finally settled in a little angry then hurt. Not so much as in oh my feelings are hurt, but hurt in the sense of not being able to take care of our customers!

We’ve built friendships with you guys 🙂. When people call I spend time with them and we share a good portion of our lives together. I look at a call more of a personal life coaching session than just someone who wants to place an order. That’s why my calls take 45 minutes, which isn’t even close to the record 6 hour call Zappos set helping one of their “friends.” So yeah its completely odd to us too.

Even when John came on board I found out about it when a forum friend called my cell phone on my day off. I guess it wasn’t important enough to bother informing us about, or was it that we were important enough to tell? Poignant, but truthful! It’s almost like being in a bubble where nothing escapes. I wrote emails, I called, I wrote more emails and more calls and well there’s a time you just got to stop and adapt. So that’s what I did. I stopped bothering with the things that just never seemed to happen and started to focus only on the things I did have some control over.

One of those things I still have some control is providing support to the people who call in seeking advice, even if we are not empowered to do so. I’m not sure how many times you can voice your opinion and just not hear anything at all back and keep voicing it. Almost seems counter-productive to bother so, as I said, I would rather spend the effort on doing those things to make your lives a bit happier 🙂.

I keep reading about all these communication issues from people not getting their orders and then complaining about customer service. Mickaelia and I can only tell you what we are told, or we can dig up by reading the forum. Mickaelia even ran into a situation of putting something in stock when it shouldn’t have been because she read it on the forum! Frustrating or something else, I’m honestly not sure and I hope everyday as a company we make a breakthrough and pull it together.

This falls right into the category of not getting new molecules or test packs. I NEVER had to ask, NEVER! Packages would come a couple of weeks out before their release and I would test them to the very best of my ability and report openly and honestly. If you go back and read any of my reports from last year or prior its how it was always done.

MX292 for example January 7th, 2009, 12:07 AM: [MX292: Here take this for free, and while you're at it have some of this too...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-here-take-this-for-free-and-while-youre-at-it-have-some-of-this-too/24594)  
Although I had this one for a couple weeks prior I was testing some others too.

> [@MX292: Here take this for free, and while you're at it have some of this too...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-here-take-this-for-free-and-while-youre-at-it-have-some-of-this-too/24594/2):
>
> … Just curious about this mix, a search did not turn up any previous reviews and it does not appear is the store. Is this a pre-release mix you are testing ?  
> …

> [@MX292: Here take this for free, and while you're at it have some of this too...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-here-take-this-for-free-and-while-youre-at-it-have-some-of-this-too/24594/3):
>
> I was wondering the same. No trace of mx292. What’s that exactly?

I honestly don’t know yet if its an oversight or what. I’ve never had to request new mixes before, but then again I’ve never had to read the forum to find out whats going on either. I guess I just missed the post on how to put in a request for an item to be tested a couple of weeks before its posted about in the forum. Wait, that wouldn’t work 🙄.

I’m at a loss guys and I truthfully am not sure whats happening. I keep getting emails saying all these changes will be explained, but the phone hasn’t rung, except from you guys. I guess I’m just to passionate about my job and love helping people and making androtics successful.

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