# Maidenfan's Pheros experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [December 2, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536 "2009-12-02T03:57:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/121 "2010-10-11T23:03:03Z")
37.5 Mcgs [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) 20 Mcgs P126 Went to art class with this on. Its a good testing ground because there is two good looking and pretty cool girls that sit at the same table as me, however usually its a little awkwardly silent. Today, we were finishing up projects that were due at the end of the peroid. We all finished early and ended up making paper frogs, and just goofing off joking around. Light and fun atmosphere. A little unusual for this class. Not sure what exactly the mones contributed. My testing with P93 is limited, and this is not what I expect from P126, so I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/122 "2010-10-13T21:48:37Z")
Quick note on [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) Ever since I have started using it, I have noticed a huge increase in initiating socialization on my part. It seems to have an effect on me that has stayed with me, even when I am not using it. How much P130 had to do with this, I don’t know, but it seems weird that not only did it have this initial effect on me, but now I have seemed to change my attitude a little bit. Thats a very cool effect if it did play a part. Tried out A1 that I got in a trade today for the first time with A314 and 30mcgs P83. I met the girl from class and the rest of my group to work on the project. She was not in a good mood. We finished early and we all went to grab some lunch at a restaurant near school. She opened up to a group that she has only known for a few weeks about why she was upset, when she didn’t really want to talk about it before we had met and she sent us a text explaining that she had not done some stuff. I don’t know if it was from comfort and disihibiton (A1 and P83) or she just needed to get it off her chest, or she felt comfortable around me because it seems like we sort of have a connection. The other group members left to go to the bathroom and she turned to me and asked if I thought they were talking crap about her behind her back now (another sign of trust in me). I assured her they weren’t and we finished what we were doing and went our separate ways for the day. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/123 "2010-10-13T21:50:49Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Quick note on P130 > > Ever since I have started using it, I have noticed a huge increase in initiating socialization on my part. It seems to have an effect on me that has stayed with me, even when I am not using it. How much P130 had to do with this, I don’t know, but it seems weird that not only did it have this initial effect on me, but now I have seemed to change my attitude a little bit. Thats a very cool effect if it did play a part. Maiden Did you ever have approach anxiety or just a harder time socializing? For me at least, whenever I conquer a fear, I carry that confidence and I do more and more of what I used to fear to do and I’m comfortable with it now. [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) definitely has that about it. I wish there was more to be bought. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/124 "2010-10-14T00:07:59Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Maiden > > Did you ever have approach anxiety or just a harder time socializing? > > For me at least, whenever I conquer a fear, I carry that confidence and I do more and more of what I used to fear to do and I’m comfortable with it now. > > P130 definitely has that about it. I wish there was more to be bought. Who hasn’t suffered from either at one point in their life? But your right on both counts here, once you start doing something your uncomfortable with, it becomes way easier and we do it more. Good observation, I guess, with some help of [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/), I made even bigger improvements in an area I was already starting to fix. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/125 "2010-10-14T00:25:43Z")
I can see this as a great complement to PUA training and getting rid of approach anxiety ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/126 "2010-10-14T02:13:02Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I can see this as a great complement to PUA training and getting rid of approach anxiety Definitely. I am also reading two books right now that I think have helped alot 1. Mastering Your Hidden Self: A Guide to the Huna Way 2.) The Way of the Superior Man Both good reads, although the Huna book deals with some less concrete ideas and requires some open mindedness. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/127 "2010-10-15T05:54:02Z")
MX393 2 sprays. This is the first thing out of the Project UF pack that seems to be working for me. Awesome, awesome results. We threw a party at our house. All the girls here seemed to pull attention towards me. A few key highlights from the mix: Girls with boyfriends resting their heads on my shoulder with their boyfriend right there. I did not need to start any sort of physical contact myself. At all. The women all started it on their own. I was dragged around to play flip cup and other games. I got a lot of respect from other guys. I’m liking this mix, lets see if it repeats. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/128 "2010-10-15T06:43:58Z")
Idea for a mix before I forget in my slightly intoxicated state! -none 2.5mcgs [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) 5 mcgs P86- 5mcg P126-5mcgs beta-nol 5mcgs. This is per spray, will determine how easy this is for me to mix in the near future. Try it out if you can and let me know what you think! ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/129 "2010-10-15T14:46:39Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Idea for a mix before I forget in my slightly intoxicated state! > > -none 2.5mcgs > P74 5 mcgs > P86- 5mcg > P126-5mcgs > beta-nol 5mcgs. > > This is per spray, will determine how easy this is for me to mix in the near future. > Try it out if you can and let me know what you think! Thoughts please sir? So how are you doing with Superior Man? I finished the first section. Unfortunately I’m reading too many books right now and I haven’t been able to complete any. I need to finish this one maybe this weekend or something. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/130 "2010-10-15T16:53:23Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > Thoughts please sir? > > So how are you doing with Superior Man? I finished the first section. Unfortunately I’m reading too many books right now and I haven’t been able to complete any. I need to finish this one maybe this weekend or something. I just got to part 3. Its a good book, very to the point and makes a lot of sense. This mix is basically a bunch of things I know work well together, and then I decided to add in P126. What I find with P126 is that it kind of pulls attention on to the wearer, so it would act as a way to focus the mix on me. The only weird thing with P126 is that it is also kind of empathic, so you better be in a good mood while you wear it if you want the best results out of people. [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) helps with the good mood vibe, P86 and -none play well together to make a flirty vibe,and the beta-nol is there to complete the pacakage. Anol would probably work just as well but I don’t have chemset anol =/. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/131 "2010-10-19T04:07:06Z")
Made a composite today that I am very interested in trying out. [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/)- 4 mcgs P83-5 mcgs P126- 5 mcgs. I will be adding other mones to this, but this mix will be the base. I have very good feelings. I might have slightly less P83 as I got a few weird sprays when combing the ingredients ( no pipettes here, used Nbullies calculator to mix.) but it should be pretty damn close. I intend on adding -none and beta andrsotenol for starters. Lets see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/132 "2010-10-19T04:28:57Z")
Nice nice Looks very promising ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/133 "2010-10-19T19:32:45Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Made a composite today that I am very interested in trying out. > P93- 4 mcgs > P83-5 mcgs > P126- 5 mcgs. > > I will be adding other mones to this, but this mix will be the base. I have very good feelings. > > I might have slightly less P83 as I got a few weird sprays when combing the ingredients ( no pipettes here, used Nbullies calculator to mix.) but it should be pretty damn close. > > I intend on adding -none and beta andrsotenol for starters. Lets see what happens. So this works. Like really works. 2 sprays to the neck. I added 2.5mcgs of straight -none to the mix before leaving. **Self-Effects:** Phero rush that I was not expecting seeing as I have toyed with all of these quite a bit. I seemed very calm and collected after applying the mix, when I added the -none I felt a little more awake or aware. **Effects on Others** Wore it to my group meeting with that girl that has been showing interest. I caught her glancing at me, and she smiled, turned red and looked away. The group meeting was very focused, and it seemed like we got things done way better than usual. At high doses of P126, I found that it made me very task driven, maybe its sneaking in here too. It also seemed to be a “touchy” kind of mix. In response to some of the things I said the girls in the group would touch my arm or something of that nature almost in agreement. The best “hit” happened when it was time for me to leave. I said bye and told her I would see her tomorrow, and she said bye “hun” and turned red again and quickly looked at her computer. She sort of caught herself saying hun, as her voice lowered in the middle of the word. Seems like a Freudian slip type thing. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) disinhibiting her maybe? Anyway, thats a pretty solid hit for the first day of testing. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/134 "2010-10-21T15:30:06Z")
What MCG’s did you have 83, 93 and 126 in that you composited? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/135 "2010-10-21T17:56:05Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > What MCG’s did you have 83, 93 and 126 in that you composited? Just ignore him! He is trying to steal your thunder. Better known as thunder stealer ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/136 "2010-10-21T18:11:29Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Just ignore him! He is trying to steal your thunder. Better known as thunder stealer Quiet man! It’s been a while I need new mixes! ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/137 "2010-10-21T22:40:29Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > What MCG’s did you have 83, 93 and 126 in that you composited? P83 was at 10mcgs a spray [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) at 37.5! This was bought for making my own MX301 P126 is at 20mcgs/spray Used Nbullies calculator to mix as I said before. I am all for others trying it out, wanna see if it’s consistent across the boards. It made about 3.5 mls of the mix instead of the full 5ml of course here are other ways to make it ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/138 "2010-10-22T05:52:26Z")
My sticking point is opening. Once I get in I am golden, but I need work on just getting in. I got obvious IOIs tonite, in the forms of locked eyes and the like, but I never approached. I later watched the girl pretty much reject 3 or 4 other guys that attempted to approach her. I could have had it, anyone have any advice on beating this sticking point? When I do open, I am usually fine after words, its just that initial illogical hump that seems to be beating me lately. Edit: Straight -none works better with my mix than TUTH. I tried it tonite with 1 spray of TUTH, and the hits were lacking. I really don’t respond well to TUTH personally, so this may be why. I also have a feeling my mix may be more of a daytime mix, which is kind of what I was looking for anyway. Only more testing will tell. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/139 "2010-10-22T07:59:37Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > My sticking point is opening. Once I get in I am golden, but I need work on just getting in. I got obvious IOIs tonite, in the forms of locked eyes and the like, but I never approached. I later watched the girl pretty much reject 3 or 4 other guys that attempted to approach her. I could have had it, anyone have any advice on beating this sticking point? When I do open, I am usually fine after words, its just that initial illogical hump that seems to be beating me lately. > > Edit: > Straight -none works better with my mix than TUTH. I tried it tonite with 1 spray of TUTH, and the hits were lacking. I really don’t respond well to TUTH personally, so this may be why. I also have a feeling my mix may be more of a daytime mix, which is kind of what I was looking for anyway. Only more testing will tell. I have the same sticking point…well, actually, I have plenty of sticking points lol but that’s the biggest one. I’m not an expert in game by any means but I’ve been trying to further educate myself on the subject lately and most instructors just tell you to go do it. It will get easier and eventually auto-correct with practice and experience. Maybe try some mones that decrease your social anxiety/increase your confidence (if you get self-effects) and read up on good opening lines/techniques/body language, etc. I feel knowledge builds confidence to some extent. That edit is a point of interest to me though because I was just searching the forums today trying to find the differences between pure -none and TUTH. I was thinking about replacing the former with the latter in a formula for the time being because I don’t have pure -none yet and was wondering how big of a difference it would be. Your post answers my question at least to some degree. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/140 "2010-10-22T20:50:39Z")
> [@TheBoogieMan](#): > > That edit is a point of interest to me though because I was just searching the forums today trying to find the differences between pure -none and TUTH. I was thinking about replacing the former with the latter in a formula for the time being because I don’t have pure -none yet and was wondering how big of a difference it would be. Your post answers my question at least to some degree. TUTH just isn’t my -none product of choice. I would much rather go Ammo or IJ if I was sticking to the consumer line. There are some people that really like TUTH, but for me, it just doesn’t do it. I did enjoy TUTH with Shine and IG when I first started experimenting, but other than that it has been a miss. I’ve had good results adding what I have available to me with straight -none. I particularly like P86 and P83 with it. Adding P86 makes a mix more flirty, adding P83 will push it in a more sexual vibe, but usually I find its not overpowering like TUTH can be. So the main advantage of using -none over TUTH is that you have more control of the signal you are putting out with it, which is a great thing. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536.md?page=6) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536.md?page=8)