# Maidenfan's Pheros experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [December 2, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536 "2009-12-02T03:57:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 140
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536/140 "2010-10-22T20:50:39Z")
> [@TheBoogieMan](#): > > That edit is a point of interest to me though because I was just searching the forums today trying to find the differences between pure -none and TUTH. I was thinking about replacing the former with the latter in a formula for the time being because I don’t have pure -none yet and was wondering how big of a difference it would be. Your post answers my question at least to some degree. TUTH just isn’t my -none product of choice. I would much rather go Ammo or IJ if I was sticking to the consumer line. There are some people that really like TUTH, but for me, it just doesn’t do it. I did enjoy TUTH with Shine and IG when I first started experimenting, but other than that it has been a miss. I’ve had good results adding what I have available to me with straight -none. I particularly like P86 and P83 with it. Adding P86 makes a mix more flirty, adding P83 will push it in a more sexual vibe, but usually I find its not overpowering like TUTH can be. So the main advantage of using -none over TUTH is that you have more control of the signal you are putting out with it, which is a great thing. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maidenfans-pheros-experience/34536)._