# Male 44, crushing on female piano teacher 14 yrs younger.

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**Created:** [January 13, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468 "2016-01-13T02:31:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![FinePhotoGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a5b964/32.png) [@FinePhotoGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FinePhotoGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/1 "2016-01-13T02:31:22Z")

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My music teacher and I get along great but I want to take our connection outside the classroom and she doesn’t. During our lessons she is pretty professional. This woman was brought up in a conservative household and graduated from an evangelical college. If you know about them then you know that they have fairly strict rules regarding contact with the opposite sex: no dating, dancing or public touching.

While she dresses casually and, as well, has a really nice body, she has never worn anything revealing or tight fitting. She’s a bit geeky wearing thick glasses and pony tail with little of no makeup. She’s not flirty and acts straitlaced if I try to flirt with her. But with that said, she is still friendly, supportive, and encouraging.

So why am I crushing on her? Well, all of the above is the mask that she wears in public. I did a photo shoot for her some months ago and once she shed the geeky eye glasses and put on a form fitting black dress and a little eye makeup, she went from duckling to swan! But its only I who knows that this luscious creature is hiding under a librarians facade.

Our lessons , while centered on the music, due tend to get off track frequently with laughter and personal talk. So I wanted to up the game during our lesson and try to bring her out of her shell. So I purchased IH, IS and ammo, today was the first time I used it.

I took 2 sprays of IH (both wrists), 2 sprays of IS (lt wrist, bh rt ear), 1 spray AMMO (rt wrist). Teacher was a little more giggly and talkative than usual. A big smile shown across her face the entire lesson. She moved in closer a few times “to show me details”. But I think she was enjoying the scent. There was a lot of prolonged eye contact as well. All in all, it was a fun time. And , yes, I did learn music as well. And for myself, I felt pretty calm versus her giggly (nervous?) actions. I applied everything about 20 mins before the lesson so was sitting in the waiting by myself for that time inhaling my own fumes. And I was hoping I wouldn’t get horny from the AMMO or talkative from the IH. Neither happened. Felt like these stacks worked well and happy with the outcome. Am wondering what I do for future lessons? Keep the same stack, or do nothing, or increase everything? Also, am seeing now that I can apply much sooner as I am writing this 2 hours later and am still basking in my fumes.

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/2 "2016-01-13T05:41:56Z")

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Giggly / nervous is never bad 🙂.

Next time? I’d say up the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to 2 and lower the IH a notch. This will steer the mix in a more flirty direction and a bit less social, while being fun because of the double shot of IS. You can put a spray of IH on a wrist and then dab your two wrists together to split it between the two wrists (i.e. try NOT to rub).

Ammo will not get you “horny” it’s not an overt sexual, don’t worry.

Great to see you have a journal going. Keep writing.

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**Author:** ![FinePhotoGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a5b964/32.png) [@FinePhotoGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FinePhotoGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/3 "2016-01-14T04:16:18Z")

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> [@Conjurator](#):
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> Giggly / nervous is never bad 🙂.
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> Next time? I’d say up the Ammo to 2 and lower the IH a notch. This will steer the mix in a more flirty direction and a bit less social, while being fun because of the double shot of IS. You can put a spray of IH on a wrist and then dab your two wrists together to split it between the two wrists (i.e. try NOT to rub).
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> Ammo will not get you “horny” it’s not an overt sexual, don’t worry.
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> Great to see you have a journal going. Keep writing.

Okay, maybe I should change the heading of this journal. Originally I was going to track my progress with my music teacher but tonight things heated up in an unexpected way.

I wasn’t even planning on using a mone. I went to my music school’s open mic tonight to support a couple of friends as I wasn’t playing. So I sprayed on IG as an after thought before I left. Its my second time wearing a mone and first with the IG. Before leaving the house for the bar, about 30 mins away, I sprayed two to the neck and one to the wrist.

Coming into the dark bar I sat at the counter as I couldn’t see anywhere else. The cute red-headed bar maid with the ample cleavage came to take my order and I noticed her shutter just a bit. Did she just take in the mone, I thought?

Well all that night we exchanged glances and smiles near 30 times. She kept looking my way and not to check the level of my drink as it was full many times and she was looking anyway. OMG, I was thinking, is this stuff really working?? So I decided to play it up.

Occasionally she walk across to where I was sitting so I would turn away from the stage and look directly into her eyes. They were looking right back at me, solid! If she walked away to get another’s drink she would look up from the beer tap to glance at me. By this time I was smiling back at every gesture.

Let say this never happens to me! And I was surprised as well that I remained cool and and didn’t act like this wasn’t normal. Si IG works both ways?

At one point I decided to caress my beer glass, slowly moving my fingers up and down the side of the glass. Her eyes were locked on until she realized it, then looked at me and I smiled. At another time she rolled her neck as if to relax it then looked at me again. I made a motion like “rub your neck?” with my hands. Her eyes widened and she nodded yes with a great smile. Mind you she gave no other patron in the bar any attention.

But then some other bartender came in and relieved her and she had to go. She went to the register and cashed everyone out. And I had left my credit card to build the tab. When she brought it back the tab said $0.00 and in pen,  
“Its on me,  
Ariella  
932-xxx-xxxx.”

I said to her “Does the tip go to you or the house?” She said it would be hers. I wrote $50, on 3 beers.

Jesus! 3 fricking sprays!

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/4 "2016-01-14T04:51:24Z")

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Is this some theory that some hard solo IG works on redheads? I’m seriously crazy about redheads. Note to myself: must try (lol).

Happy to see you got good results. Maybe try and repeat that with the same bartender?

If you want to change the name of your journal, it’s possible, send a private message to **Dee A** specifying the name you’d like to give to it .

Great report, keep writing!

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/5 "2016-01-16T13:26:37Z")

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Wow great bar story. I have never heard or seen much sexually with IG and your story really moves me. I am going to have to order more on my next order. I am tuned in to see what happens. I second Conjurators suggestion about the IH. I would definitely keep the Ammo as your base [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) for the women and steer it the way you want.

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/6 "2016-01-26T16:25:25Z")

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Have you had the chance to test further, FinePhotoGuy?

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/7 "2016-02-17T02:53:05Z")

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Its been a while but I have another report on the piano teacher. It was a major hit today! Didn’t even know when it happened and realized it later. Missy Piano is a nice woman. She never would hurt anyone’s feelings and whenever she might be slighted, she won’t attack or defend herself and will go on like nothing ever happened. I’ve slighted her in the past unknowingly and she’s never said anything. Only later when I think back on my actions or speech would I know I prob. embarrassed myself in my actions. But she would never bring it up and just go in her normal sweet way. Until today…

Last week I texted her about class but she never answered. To be fair to me she’s done this before. So two days later I texted her back and said “The expectation of a reply is built in to an IM. The lack of one is felt as demeaning. Often times your online persona is vastly different than the goodhearted real life one. Never certain as to why that is.”

Well, I never would talk to her like that in real life. And so today when I saw her at class I gave her an apology (I know you alphas out there are cringing!). And she turned to me and said “It hurt.” OMG!! This woman holds her emotions in so tightly. She never reveals the slightest distress, anger or emotion. In the past she would never admit if anything ever got to her (she had a conservative Christen upbringing). Yet today she revealed something deep about herself and that normally would never happen.

Prior to going into the lesson today I applied myself with 3 sprays of IH, 1sp of IS and 1sp of Ammo2x. I can only guess it was the IH x 3 that broke through. I’m going to try the same next week, maybe switch the IS out for IG.

Chop, chop, chopping away at the armor.

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**Author:** ![FinePhotoGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a5b964/32.png) [@FinePhotoGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FinePhotoGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/8 "2016-02-17T03:09:07Z")

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Its been a while but I have another report on the piano teacher. It was a major hit today! Didn’t even know when it happened and realized it later. Missy Piano is a nice woman. She never would hurt anyone’s feelings and whenever she might be slighted, she won’t attack or defend herself and will go on like nothing ever happened. I’ve slighted her in the past unknowingly and she’s never said anything. Only later when I think back on my actions or speech would I know I prob. embarrassed myself in my actions. But she would never bring it up and just go in her normal sweet way. Until today…

Last week I texted her about class but she never answered. To be fair to me she’s done this before. So two days later I texted her back and said “The expectation of a reply is built in to an IM. The lack of one is felt as demeaning. Often times your online persona is vastly different than the goodhearted real life one. Never certain as to why that is.”

Well, I never would talk to her like that in real life. And so today when I saw her at class I gave her an apology (I know you alphas out there are cringing!). And she turned to me and said “It hurt.” OMG!! This woman holds her emotions in so tightly. She never reveals the slightest distress, anger or emotion. In the past she would never admit if anything ever got to her (she had a conservative Christen upbringing). Yet today she revealed something deep about herself and that normally would never happen.

Prior to going into the lesson today I applied myself with 3 sprays of IH , 1sp of IS and 2sp of Ammo2x. I can only guess it was the IH x 3 that broke through. I’m going to try the same next week, maybe switch the IS out for IG .

Do you think P96 would make for a good escalator in getting her to open up more?

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/9 "2016-02-17T03:43:32Z")

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Happy to see you back.

I’d say up the IS and lower the IH. Leave Ammo as is. I assume it is IH 1X strength and IS 1X strength too, are they?

This all seems to need mood boosting and a bit less drama. IH seems indeed to have it her hard and there is a definite connection going on.

P96 you should test solo before being thrown in a mix with her in my opinion. But as I said, get rid of the drama first and bring the fun back.

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**Author:** ![FinePhotoGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a5b964/32.png) [@FinePhotoGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FinePhotoGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/10 "2016-02-17T14:36:16Z")

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> [@Conjurator](#):
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> Happy to see you back.
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> I’d say up the IS and lower the IH. Leave Ammo as is. I assume it is IH 1X strength and IS 1X strength too, are they?
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> This all seems to need mood boosting and a bit less drama. IH seems indeed to have it her hard and there is a definite connection going on.
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> P96 you should test solo before being thrown in a mix with her in my opinion. But as I said, get rid of the drama first and bring the fun back.

Thanks for your reply. So what does P96 actually do? I’ve read that it helps with emotional bonding.  
(and how do I get my current post to the top of the Journal list so others will see?)

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/11 "2016-02-17T19:52:43Z")

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I have experimented a bit with P96, that was a new one for me, but I didn’t get anything spectacular yet. I’ll let other users cue you in on this one because I know many guys have much success with it.

Usually, when you write a new message or someone writes a new answer to your journal, it will automatically appear near the top of the journal list for those who haven’t read it yet. If you don’t see it there yourself, it’s just that the last message is considered as ‘read’ for you. Don’t worry.

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/male-44-crushing-on-female-piano-teacher-14-yrs-younger/65468/12 "2016-02-17T19:57:44Z")

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I wouldn’t expect P96 would help her open-up more. IME its most useful property is that it helps women be much more accepting of arousal aroud you.

So to that-end, it might be better to use it with a more sexual mix, not the social-heavy mixes you have been using so-far.

If you want something to complement and depen the IH - Try P74 instead but keep it below 20mcg alongside Ammo, or 30mcg with something more overt.
