# man whats the deal i smell cheap!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 18, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199 "2009-03-18T23:04:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mdm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mdm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mdm)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/1 "2009-03-18T23:04:20Z")
ok here’s the deal. i’ve been wearing ammo and shine for about a week now. gotten some good hits. but now people are acting like i don’t exist. i have not gone up one the ammount i use, so i thought it might smell a little and that was the reson, so i covered it with stetson( never had anyone tell me that stetson didn’t smell good) so i sprayed one shot off ammo x2 game scent on my throat ( where the troat meats my chest bone, waited 15 minutes and sprayed the shine x2 on top of the ammo, the n waited five minutes and sprayed one spray of stetson on top of the ammo and shine, so i sprayed 3 sprays total to the same spot, (i spray of ammo double stength, i spay of shine double strength, and one spray of stetson, and a girl told me that it smelled like i was wearing a cheap colone, not only that but she said that it smelled like cheap colon on a carboard sample card( the kind you get in the mail). so has anyone had this complaint of the smell or is it maybe the mixing of the stetson with the game scent that made me smell like cheap colone on a piece of cardboard? and putting the smell aside does anyone have any idea why i was getting good hits for a few days and now i’m ignored, when i have not gone up on the prays any? thanks for reading my thread. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/2 "2009-03-18T23:21:30Z")
Honestly, I am not sure what Stetson smells like, but it sounds like it smells like one of those old 60’s/70’s type of cheap musky scents so I’m not sure! However, if I’m guessing right Stetson and Game will NOT match! Especially considering Game smells more young, and falls more into the new age type of fresh/sweet colognes category. And yes, OD is still possible even if you haven’t changed your dosage. It’s called -none build up, and if you don’t scrub your application points VERY well while in the shower and/or with Witch Hazel you _will_ build up some -none residue. Also just because in the AMMO product page it says that effects only last for 4 to 6 hours (or whatever the description states) does _not_ mean that you can go on and spray on more AMMO without fearing -none build up (because even though the -none and all of the other [pheromones](https://a314.com/) in AMMO were “supposed” to stop working 4 to 6 hours ago doesn’t mean that the -none in AMMO ISN’T still working for you or against you.) Androstenone is a **sticky** Little bastard we all love, and hate. > [@mdm](#): > > ok here’s the deal. i’ve been wearing ammo and shine for about a week now. gotten some good hits. but now people are acting like i don’t exist. i have not gone up one the ammount i use, so i thought it might smell a little and that was the reson, so i covered it with stetson( never had anyone tell me that stetson didn’t smell good) so i sprayed one shot off ammo x2 game scent on my throat ( where the troat meats my chest bone, waited 15 minutes and sprayed the shine x2 on top of the ammo, the n waited five minutes and sprayed one spray of stetson on top of the ammo and shine, so i sprayed 3 sprays total to the same spot, (i spray of ammo double stength, i spay of shine double strength, and one spray of stetson, and a girl told me that it smelled like i was wearing a cheap colone, not only that but she said that it smelled like cheap colon on a carboard sample card( the kind you get in the mail). so has anyone had this complaint of the smell or is it maybe the mixing of the stetson with the game scent that made me smell like cheap colone on a piece of cardboard? and putting the smell aside does anyone have any idea why i was getting good hits for a few days and now i’m ignored, when i have not gone up on the prays any? thanks for reading my thread. ---
**Author:** ![mdm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mdm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mdm)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/3 "2009-03-18T23:35:14Z")
thanks for the reply i only spray it on one time a day, and i shower daily. and i have read about the build up. therfore i make sure that i srub it good. if i use a puff spounge and bar soap to scrub where i spray it. do you think that with me scrubbing the hell out of it with a puff spounge and bar soap that i’m still lieving build up behind? if so does the witch hazel get the build up off alot easier? do you thing that i might should scrub it with 90% rubbing alcohol? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/4 "2009-03-18T23:43:19Z")
I would go with the Witch Hazel, not sure if alcohol is any good for removing [pheromone](https://a314.com/) residue (it might but I’m not sure.) Plus the alcohol might be harsh on your skin; another thing people like to use is peroxide. Some say that scrubbing should be enough, but then there’s others who say that even with scrubbing -none is still hard to remove so your best bet is to also use some Witch Hazel on a cotton ball. > [@mdm](#): > > thanks for the reply i only spray it on one time a day, and i shower daily. and i have read about the build up. therfore i make sure that i srub it good. if i use a puff spounge and bar soap to scrub where i spray it. do you think that with me scrubbing the hell out of it with a puff spounge and bar soap that i’m still lieving build up behind? if so does the witch hazel get the build up off alot easier? do you thing that i might should scrub it with 90% rubbing alcohol? ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/5 "2009-03-18T23:53:35Z")
Try a 5/2 schedule with any ~none products. Wear it 5 days skip 2 days, and yes, Stetson _is_ a cheap cologne.😃 ---
**Author:** ![mdm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mdm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mdm)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/6 "2009-03-18T23:56:40Z")
thanks i’ll try that. oh yeah if i get some build up on my clothes will detergent get it out, and do you think build up will get on my shirt if i let it dry down for 10 to 15 minutes before putting my shirt on? ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/7 "2009-03-19T00:01:17Z")
Letting it dry down is a good idea. I’ve not had any problems with ~none (I’m old) but some recommend using Oxyclean in the laundry to get it out. ---
**Author:** ![mdm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mdm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mdm)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/8 "2009-03-19T00:18:26Z")
cool i’ll try that also. i don’t know what age that men slow down on there none production but i’m 27 maybe i should stick mostly to socials? i don’t know ---
**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/9 "2009-03-19T00:31:34Z")
> [@mdm](#): > > cool i’ll try that also. i don’t know what age that men slow down on there none production but i’m 27 maybe i should stick mostly to socials? i don’t know By 27 you should be fine to throw on a decent amount of -none and not have to worry about overdosing. At your age it’s still possible, but it’s a lot harder to do than say if you were 17. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/10 "2009-03-19T01:39:56Z")
OK so I always use Oxyclean in the laundry and I scrub my application areas with Phisoderm bar soap (squeaky clean) on a loofa. I strip down for applications so i don’t spray my clothes. I carry alcohol wipes for changes on the road. I’m kinda particular about this. (And a series of other personal scent related things. I’m developing an olfactory signal to noise ratio theory. Coming soon to a thread near you.) I seldom use [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or TUTH but when i do how do you tell when you have none buildup? Can you feel it ? How do ya tell? OoohYahhh ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/11 "2009-03-19T01:47:20Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > I seldom use Ammo or TUTH but when i do how do you tell when you have none buildup? Can you feel it ? How do ya tell? I would imagine you could tell if you have 'none buildup based by the reactions of those around you. Looking for OD or near OD type reactions. And depending on how you react to 'none you might be able to gauge it by your own feelings - maybe a little more aggressive, more irritable or more easily angered. ---
**Author:** ![mdm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mdm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mdm)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/12 "2009-03-19T01:56:58Z")
well from what i gather i guess you know you have build up when people start ignoreing you. i’m new so i really don’t know ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/13 "2009-03-19T04:09:32Z")
Mikoto pretty much nailed it. Game seems to a fresh, clean, type scent. Stetson is a musk. I could not imagine those two would work well together. If you feel you need a cover scent try Hugo Boss. I think the Game scent is strong enough as is but I sometimes use acqua armani di giorgio as cover. If your desperate and don’t have alot of funds to drop on new cologne, (speaking of cheap colonge)try Make Moves Tag body spray. The only thing good about Stetson is the spokesperson. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 8:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/14 "2009-03-19T08:21:07Z")
Stetson doesn’t smell _bad_ per se, but it’s a recognizable smell that many people associate with “cheap”, which carries with it all sorts of negative connotations. Cheap colognes _can_ be used with pheromones, but your best bet is to only use unfragranced pheros with them. Now, I’ll be the first to say that more sophisticated fragrances are pricey as all hell, but they seem to last much longer than drugstore stuff, both in terms of application and bottle life, since they tend to be a bit stronger. However, if all you’re looking for is a straight cover scent to put over pheromones, without worrying about the subtle nuances between the three layers of notes and all that other pretentious horseshit, you can get by with imitations. Check the Parfum forum for a thread called “Fragrance on the Cheap” for a good source of knock-off fragrances. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![CaliBoy310](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/caliboy310/32/1553_2.png) [@CaliBoy310](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CaliBoy310)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/15 "2009-03-19T10:27:27Z")
Don’t sweat it MDM.. Even the pro’s get back negative feedback sometimes! Remember to be careful and not use too much -none. If you use it everyday it can build up. Even if you shower!!! Probably why people were ignoring you ghost effect. But also maybe the cologne doesn’t go well with the ammo scent or the girl just didn’t like your cologne. I personally spend some $$$ on my colognes but my two favorites are Farenhiet by Christian Dior and Attitude by Giorgio Armani. You should check them out! They’ve never let me down!! ---
**Author:** ![mdm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mdm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mdm)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/16 "2009-03-19T21:10:43Z")
> [@mdm](#): > > ok here’s the deal. i’ve been wearing ammo and shine for about a week now. gotten some good hits. but now people are acting like i don’t exist. i have not gone up one the ammount i use, so i thought it might smell a little and that was the reson, so i covered it with stetson( never had anyone tell me that stetson didn’t smell good) so i sprayed one shot off ammo x2 game scent on my throat ( where the troat meats my chest bone, waited 15 minutes and sprayed the shine x2 on top of the ammo, the n waited five minutes and sprayed one spray of stetson on top of the ammo and shine, so i sprayed 3 sprays total to the same spot, (i spray of ammo double stength, i spay of shine double strength, and one spray of stetson, and a girl told me that it smelled like i was wearing a cheap colone, not only that but she said that it smelled like cheap colon on a carboard sample card( the kind you get in the mail). so has anyone had this complaint of the smell or is it maybe the mixing of the stetson with the game scent that made me smell like cheap colone on a piece of cardboard? and putting the smell aside does anyone have any idea why i was getting good hits for a few days and now i’m ignored, when i have not gone up on the prays any? thanks for reading my thread. ok well on the day of the events listed above in the quote i went to my brothers house as i stated in the quote above i was wearing 1shot ammox2 1shot of isx2 and one shot of stetson. well while i was there my sister inlaw pissed me off with her mouth and i snaped back at her and pissed her off. well at this time i told my bother that i had to go(he wa acting very quite and tense) well i left. a few days later wich is today i called him and he tells me why his wife was being a b\*tch. he told me it was the phero’s i had on and that it made her fighting mad and she did not calm down for about an hour. and that he had to air the house out before she started to calm down. he also said that he was getting pissed at me too, not because of the words between me and his wife , but because of the phero’s. he said for me never to wear ammo to his house again. now he has ttuh, shine, and openness and he says that he gets good hit’s off of it,but he said that the ammo just pisses people off. has anyone every pissed off a female with ammo or caued them to become irritated with the use of ammo? i’m thinking about sending the ammo back. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/17 "2009-04-08T20:37:12Z")
I’ve never had a bad reaction from anyone when using Ammunition, but then again I can’t say I’ve had much of any reactions from anyone when using Ammunition. I’m wearing it today (2 spray single strength) and about all I can say is that the boss did suprise me by giving me a Big Mac he’d picked up when he came back from (his) lunch (_some_ of us only brown-bag it…). May not be any connection though. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/18 "2009-04-08T21:03:47Z")
Of course the individual perception of what entails a cheap cologne is subjective. The current Ammo smells cheap and sour to me but some love it. I liked the original Ammo. Stetson is right up there with Old Spice aftershave and Tag… ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/19 "2009-04-08T21:50:35Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Of course the individual perception of what entails a cheap cologne is subjective. The current Ammo smells cheap and sour to me but some love it. I liked the original Ammo. Stetson is right up there with Old Spice aftershave and Tag… True. I’m not overwhelmed by the Ammunition scent (not sure which version it is, but I think it’s an older one) but so many others here seem to love it. And I thought the scent of Aquagen (once sold “elsewhere”) was “cheap,” but one of my “scent testers” liked it… And personally I kinda like Old Spice. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/man-whats-the-deal-i-smell-cheap/27199/20 "2009-04-08T22:12:14Z")
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