# Married and happy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 20, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/married-and-happy/5616 "2007-09-20T00:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 9
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/married-and-happy/5616/9 "2009-10-03T14:28:08Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Keep in mind most pheromone products that make outlandish promises of pheromone induced orgies all use -none and all will not work the way they promise they will. No pheromones work that way. There’s a post on here about using 80% game vs 20% pheromones you might find useful. Try searching for it. This one? > [@The other 90% - Where do I start?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-other-90-where-do-i-start/32815): > > Hey, As you probably all know, one of the most quoted lines given to new people coming in here is: “[Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) only give you 10% - The other 90% is you!” But, it could be very hard and very very troublesome for some people to see that - as they are probably here to increase themselves socially, yet are then told that they have to be mostly social before they can benefit from pheromone help. So, obviously a catch-22 situation. A resource I have found incredibly helpful was the [LadderWiki](http://www.ladderwiki.com/). It … It’s starting to sink 😛 Welcome to the forum 😃 --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/married-and-happy/5616)._